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Help me decide on a frame to suit my needs

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Help me decide on a frame to suit my needs

This is my first post in these forums. I'm a heavy rider (225), carry 20-60 lbs. of gear, and pull my 60 lb. little boy on a Burley Piccolo. I ride about 20 miles a day (up to 60 mi./day), and like to go about 12 mph, some hills, some gravel. Mostly commuting with kids around a hilly town with a lot of rain, but some family S24O rides also. Currently I'm riding a Walmart bike that isn't holding up to the rigors. I keep having buckled rims and broken spokes. Basically all the parts on this bike are broken and the frame is creaking like it's going to break any moment. I have been riding with 3 broken spokes for 2 weeks.

I definitely need a more heavy-duty bike. If money wasn't an object, and I could choose any bike I wanted, I would be torn between a Surly LHT and a Big Dummy. I need a bike that's both suited to hauling a lot of weight and long rides. Money is an issue though. I really don't have any budget to work with.

Here's the plan I can afford: Buy a functioning older bike with a rugged frame. When the wheels fail, replace them with double walled rims and a million spokes. Upgrade other components little by little.

I have read that a good old steel frame is chromoly. That hi-ten steel is bad. I might want to add an xtracycle free-radical or some other beefy rack.

There's a Giant Acapulco up the street for $50. I can hardly find any info on older Giant bikes. I've read both that it has a chromo frame, and that it is hi-ten steel with a chromo fork, and that it is Giant steel. How do I tell which? I could buy this bike tomorrow, which would definitely be a step up for me. It has a little rust, but shifts and brakes fine, felt ok around the parking lot. The frame fits. But that was such a short distance and unloaded. It's really only worth it to me if it's suitable for a project build. TIA
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Touring bike frames are made to carry heavy loads . want used , ? Go shopping I can't help you from a keyboard.
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Giant didn't get to be as giant as they are by putting out crappy products. Walmart, on the other hand, did. If you drop the $50 on the Giant you will be risking far less than the money you spent on the Wally World bike. It sounds like a no brainer to me. If you don't like it, sell it for $51.
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Does it have mounts for the racks/fenders you want? Does it have a sticker saying what it's made out of? Do you want drop bars, or are the flat bars it has fine (converting between the two gets quite expensive)? Does it fit you? (the last question is most important)
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Buy the Giant Acapulco at $50 which is a fine price if the bike is in decent shape. Here is some info on the bike, https://www.bikeforums.net/clydesdale...-any-good.html

Bottom line, a vintage mtb is perfect for your needs. It's a stout bike with strong wheels and you can run a fat tire. Life is good and comfy with fat tires. You can learn how to work on bikes with the Acapulco. Maybe one day you'll get a different bike, maybe not but you won't regret a cool vintage MTB. Those bikes rock. They are great platforms for doing pretty much anything you want. I own two vintage mtbs. In fact I rode into work this morning on one that I converted to drop bars.

What are you waiting for? Go buy the bike if it is your size.
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how are you wanting to carry your gear (and son)

if it's all on a trailer then a good late 80's to mid 90's steel MTB would be the ticket... if you want to use racks then considerations get a bit more difficult.

the Giant Acapulco looks to be a mid 90s hybrid/comfort type bike, low end parts and hi-ten frame (bikepedia.com is great for looking at this stuff) but it's likely better than the crap at a big box store at twice the price... assuming it fits OK... if it doesn't fit no matter how good the deal is it's not a good deal for YOU if you want to ride it.
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I wouldn't automatically dismiss a name brand bike because it has a hiten frame for your usage. The difference between the materials is that chromoly is a stronger material, but the bicycle makers take advantage of that strength by using tubes with thinner walls, therefore lighter... A hiten bike and chromoly bike can have very similar strength and longevity, but the chromoly frame will be lighter. With what you carry, I wouldn't be too concerned with the bike weighing an extra pound or two if the frame material is all that is stopping you.
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I will agree with the other posters and get that Giant (as long as it fits). I had a 1993 Giant Rincon that seems very similar to the 1993 Giant Acapulco and I loved that bike. Mine had double eyelets both front and rear to allow you to attach rack and/or fenders. I also put some slick tires and it was such a fun commuter.

I wish my brother didn't destroy it because I would still be riding it today.
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225 isn't really that heavy, I have ranged 210-245 over the last 30 years. I ride all sorts of bikes, road racing, hybrids, tt, mtn bikes. I also have used the Piccolo and a burley trailer and have used these on a few different bikes, but mostly used the piccolo on a hybrid and the trailer was used on any bike depending on what I was hauling.

I think the Giant would be a good upgrade and would work fine. It should be less problems than your current bike. I think most of the problems with the Walmart bike is poor initial assembly and it just propagates the problems when riding.
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