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Comfortable Road bike that can go offroad = Cyclocross?

Old 08-04-14, 12:50 PM
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Comfortable Road bike that can go offroad = Cyclocross?

I'm kicking around the idea of another bike. Right now I have:

2013 Specialized Secteur Expert Disc - my road bike, works great as long as the road is decent.

2013 Trek DS 8.3 - my everything else bike. Cheap wheels require rebuilds, not digging the flat bar as much any more.

I'm kicking around the idea of getting a bike with similar geometry to my Secteur, but built for comfort and ability to go off road.

Does this mean I am looking for a cyclocross bike? Or is there another category I should be looking at?

The Specialized AWOL (steel frame, big tires, disc brakes) looks perfect, but they seem to be hard to find. Most of my dealers around here are Specialized and Trek. After owning both, I prefer Specialized to Trek at this point. Are there other brands in this category? Are the bikesdirect.com bikes an option?

What do you recommend? Thanks.


(Edit: BTW, I posted it here because I'm still a clyde. 263 this week )

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I believe the Trek Crossrip would be along the lines of what you're looking for.
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Sounds like you're on the right track.

And yes, the bikesdirect.com bikes are an option, but only if you're confident in your ability to take a wrench to your bike.
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Gotta remember that most cyclocross bikes are race bikes and set up fairly aggressive with the geometry. If you want well rounded, you have to get outside of the Big 3, Spesh, Trek and Giant. Each offer a super relaxed geo CX and a race CX, nothing in between.

How big of a tire are you looking to fit and deal with on the roads? Most CX bikes are designed to UCI specs so 32 and 35c tires. "gravel grinder" bikes can fit up to 42c and anything below. But watch how narrow of a tire is on those 29er rims

This would be my first choice in that catagory, Niner RLT
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How off road are you wanting to ride? I and others I know with Roubiax ride dirt and gravel roads with them.
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Not too much off road. Gravel roads/trails, unpaved but somewhat flattened out dirt trails.

My Trek has Bontrager LT2, 700x38c tires on it, my Secteur has Specialized Roubaix Pro Endurant tires 700x25/28 tires on it.

So looking for something in between those I guess. 38 seems overkill, 25 seems to small.

What about this one? (CONTINENTAL Cyclocross Race (C281) Fold , 700x35C)


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Here is a pic of a Secteur for geometry comparison:

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Jarrett2 the wider tires of a cx bike do smooth out rough surfaces somewhat, especially if you run the tires below max pressure. On smooth gravel/packed dirt paths and roads my Roubaix is more comfortable than my Crux. The carbon frame and Zertz inserts just seem to soak up buzz, something you will not get in your Secteur.

With a CX bike finding the ideal tire pressure is somewhat trial and error and you'll likely pinch flat a few times before you dial it in and then if you hit a large rock you might still pinch flat. You might see if you can fit 28c tires on your Sectuer. If your Trek is having wheel issues I'd not be surprised that a bikes direct bike would also have wheel issues unless they are finished by someone that understands the required tension and stress relieving of wheels for clydes.
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Got a Motobecane Fantom Cross Pro Ti the first of the year.

Never rode the factory saddle, immediately put on a Brooks B17 Imperial and a set back seatpost.
Flipped the steerer over and put all the spacers underneath to get the bars up to a more relaxed height (had to get a longer front brake cable)

I've used it a both extremes, put skinny tires on it (Conti attack/force set 22/24) and rode my first century in June and with the fat tires have made a few wrong turns and ended up bombing down some single tracks. (Thank God for disk brakes!) It's also my daily commuter.

running 42 Conti Crossrides on it now. Fast and quiet on pavement and can climb anything I'm capable of pedaling up.
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Got an email from Bikes Direct saying that bike is too aggressive for what I want and that I should look at this:

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Looks like a step down from my Secteur.
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Originally Posted by TGT1
Got a Motobecane Fantom Cross Pro Ti the first of the year.

Never rode the factory saddle, immediately put on a Brooks B17 Imperial and a set back seatpost.
Flipped the steerer over and put all the spacers underneath to get the bars up to a more relaxed height (had to get a longer front brake cable)

I've used it a both extremes, put skinny tires on it (Conti attack/force set 22/24) and rode my first century in June and with the fat tires have made a few wrong turns and ended up bombing down some single tracks. (Thank God for disk brakes!) It's also my daily commuter.

running 42 Conti Crossrides on it now. Fast and quiet on pavement and can climb anything I'm capable of pedaling up.
This sounds like a great way to go. What do you mean you made a few wrong turns with fat tires?
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Well, more " I wonder where this goes" and ended up on full on MTB single tracks that were a bit more than I'd expected.

It was fun getting the look from the full suspension crowd when you suddenly show up playing on their turf though.

It's still an under 20lb bike with the skinny tires and the toolkit striped down to minimum.. Around 24lb as setup right now. I also dropped the small ring down to 34 from the 36. That makes a bigger difference than I thought it would.
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