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baron von trail 08-15-14 06:38 PM

Being in Clyde is like doing Jail Time
 
I'm not sure how many of you feel like this. But, for me, posting in the C & A forum is like jail--do your time, get the hell out.

The last time I was stuck in here, I weighed 212. Managed to drop below 190 in a few short months and got released. Now I'm back. Been a bad boy, let my weight shoot up over 220--way over 220. Thus, I'm back in hell: Clydes and Athenas forum.

Now I'm doing all I can to get the hell out of here. Did the crime. Gotta do my time.

LongT 08-15-14 06:59 PM

That isn't a warm fuzzy feeling!

Bill

MRT2 08-15-14 07:01 PM

Seriously?

baron von trail 08-15-14 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by LongT (Post 17040808)
That isn't a warm fuzzy feeling!

Bill

There is nothing warm and fuzzy about being 20-40 pounds overweight. So...I have to face the fact. Pay the piper. Bust ass and get the weight back under control. It's a long hard journey, losing weight. I'm mad at myself for letting it get out of hand...again.


I see it like falling off the wagon, relapsing, starting smoking again or getting popped for drunk driving. Bad stuff. Inexcusable. However, instead of moaning about it or trying to justify it, I believe doing the C/A jail time is a punishment that fits the crime.

The goal is to get the hell out of here and never come back.

Axiom 08-15-14 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by baron von trail (Post 17040843)
There is nothing warm and fuzzy about being 20-40 pounds overweight. So...I have to face the fact. Pay the piper. Bust ass and get the weight back under control. It's a long hard journey, losing weight. I'm mad at myself for letting it get out of hand...again.


I see it like falling off the wagon, relapsing, starting smoking again or getting popped for drunk driving. Bad stuff. Inexcusable. However, instead of moaning about it or trying to justify it, I believe doing the C/A jail time is a punishment that fits the crime.

The goal is to get the hell out of here and never come back.

And if you're over 6' tall you're serving a life sentence here?

dsljay 08-15-14 08:19 PM

really- I have an add for a Reading Pa. bail bonds service on the side of this thread. Now that's a targeted ad.

Rowan 08-15-14 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by baron von trail (Post 17040768)
I'm not sure how many of you feel like this. But, for me, posting in the C & A forum is like jail--do your time, get the hell out.

The last time I was stuck in here, I weighed 212. Managed to drop below 190 in a few short months and got released. Now I'm back. Been a bad boy, let my weight shoot up over 220--way over 220. Thus, I'm back in hell: Clydes and Athenas forum.

Now I'm doing all I can to get the hell out of here. Did the crime. Gotta do my time.

Some of us aren't clydes or athenas anymore and still come back to post.

Being overweight isn't a criminal offence. If you want to beat yourself up about it, go ahead. It won't do you any good. The flaw in your previous strategy, in my estimation, is losing the weight in "a few short months". You didn't change your lifestyle, you just achieved a target and became self-satisfied about it.

Changing your lifestyle can go a long way to achieving permanent loss.

What sort of plan do you have to lose the weight?

baron von trail 08-15-14 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 17040970)
Some of us aren't clydes or athenas anymore and still come back to post.

Being overweight isn't a criminal offence. If you want to beat yourself up about it, go ahead. It won't do you any good. The flaw in your previous strategy, in my estimation, is losing the weight in "a few short months". You didn't change your lifestyle, you just achieved a target and became self-satisfied about it.

Changing your lifestyle can go a long way to achieving permanent loss.

What sort of plan do you have to lose the weight?

Dropped the starches. Started paying attention again to what I eat, avoiding empty calories mostly.

Causes?

Too much pasta, pizza and bread is my guess. Too many bologna sandwiches drenched in mayo as snacks while fiddling on the computer, not enough discipline to turn down the pastries, hot dogs and hamburgers offered at work, overindulging on seconds and thirds at dinner...yeah, a self-satisfied cockiness that let me ignore 5 and 10 pound gains by thinking I could quickly lose that weight when this or that changed. Sadly, the ten pounds became twenty, then thirty...

baron von trail 08-15-14 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by dsljay (Post 17040967)
really- I have an add for a Reading Pa. bail bonds service on the side of this thread. Now that's a targeted ad.

:lol:

baron von trail 08-15-14 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Axiom (Post 17040907)
And if you're over 6' tall you're serving a life sentence here?

6'3". I'm doomed. :(

Rowan 08-15-14 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by baron von trail (Post 17041035)
Dropped the starches. Started paying attention again to what I eat, avoiding empty calories mostly.

Causes?

Too much pasta, pizza and bread is my guess. Too many bologna sandwiches drenched in mayo as snacks while fiddling on the computer, not enough discipline to turn down the pastries, hot dogs and hamburgers offered at work, overindulging on seconds and thirds at dinner...yeah, a self-satisfied cockiness that let me ignore 5 and 10 pound gains by thinking I could quickly lose that weight when this or that changed. Sadly, the ten pounds became twenty, then thirty...

Hey, a good honest approach.

You know what to do.

baron von trail 08-15-14 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 17041064)
Hey, a good honest approach.

You know what to do.

Yep. Sticking to it is the challenge. Always has been.

i used to justify the eating because I work out a lot. But...that doesn't work.

1loosemoose 08-16-14 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by baron von trail (Post 17041046)
6'3". I'm doomed. :(


I'm 6'4" and will always be a Clyde as well. My ideal weight is probably somewhere between 200-210 lbs

werwer2012 08-16-14 05:19 AM

Well I'm 6'0 tall 280 lbs and want to get into cycling but my knees are so sore so I can't see any cycling soon in my life so I just look at everyone else.

Wooden Tiger 08-16-14 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by baron von trail (Post 17040768)
I'm not sure how many of you feel like this. But, for me, posting in the C & A forum is like jail--do your time, get the hell out.

The last time I was stuck in here, I weighed 212. Managed to drop below 190 in a few short months and got released. Now I'm back. Been a bad boy, let my weight shoot up over 220--way over 220. Thus, I'm back in hell: Clydes and Athenas forum.

Now I'm doing all I can to get the hell out of here. Did the crime. Gotta do my time.

Sorry, I can't really relate to participating on the C&A forum to having to cover my bung every night in bed, in a jail cell. Nobody is stuck here. There's no rule here that says you can't post in other sections of this site.

There's a lot of talk about, "Oh, I'll always be a Clyde, I'm 6'3 or I'm 6'5, blah blah blah." Do you REALLY wanna weigh 180 lbs when you're standing at 6'5? There would be NOTHING to you. Clydesdales are large, and Athenas are "amazon women;" we get it. Shouldn't "Clydesdale" or "Athena" pertain more to being disproportionate to your weight, not necessarily a number in pounds?

I'm 5'10-5'11 and weigh about 212 lbs. While I'm not obese, I could certainly stand to lose about 25-30 lbs. I've got plenty of "extra" I'm carrying around. I wouldn't even go as far as to call myself "pudgy," but like I said, I could deal to lose some lbs. Because of this, I would consider myself a "Clydesdale." Now, if I were 6'2 or 6'3, I would probably be a fairly healthy weight at 212 lbs.

Nobody's perfect. We all "treat ourselves" to an occasional Five Guys Burger after a ride. OCCASIONALLY treating ourselves to a good burger after a ride is one thing, but when it becomes EVERY time, that's the problem. The last thing I wanna do after a good, long ride is go home and cook. Unfortunately, that's what needs to be done. I've recognized this, and I've lost about 8 lbs doing such.

There are so many different theories on eating. I've heard so many people talk about cutting out sugars, carbs, gluten, what have you. If we listened to all these "experts," we'd have starved to death by now. An acquaintance of mine is a personal trainer. He claims we should be eating SEVEN times per day...SEVEN. That's A LOT of eating. His theory is that by eating more meals per day, your body is constantly burning calories, keeping your metabolism up. Theoretically, he makes sense. He also says it's not how many times you eat per day, but WHAT you eat per day.

For me, I can lose weight fairly easily, but my wife, on the other hand, does not. She doesn't eat a lot of junk food, and she gets on her bike and rides hard. Given her size, she's pretty fast. The weight just doesn't seem to be dropping. It's frustrating for her because she can't seem to drop the weight, and it's frustrating for me because I see how hard she's trying and not seeing nary a result.

Willbird 08-16-14 06:58 AM

IMHO I have probably qualified as a "clyde" for 25 of my 49 years.

I am dead set to not be one by January 2015, that said I would still offer my support and show where I came from, and where others can go too if they choose to :-).

Bill

baron von trail 08-16-14 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Willbird (Post 17041727)
IMHO I have probably qualified as a "clyde" for 25 of my 49 years.

I am dead set to not be one by January 2015, that said I would still offer my support and show where I came from, and where others can go too if they choose to :-).

Bill

It's one thing to go into the county jail on Wednesdays as a drug councilor. It's quite another to be regularly sent there to serve 90-day stints.


Good luck with your goal. I won't be under 200 by January, but if I do well, I'll be back down in the teens.

baron von trail 08-16-14 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by 1loosemoose (Post 17041578)
I'm 6'4" and will always be a Clyde as well. My ideal weight is probably somewhere between 200-210 lbs

Ideal Weight for 6'3" is 156 to 195. Had I not been under 190 a few years ago, I would have said the numbers listed are crazy. But, instead I recall being quite well cut at that weight. Now I see a spare tire where abs used to be.

Jarrett2 08-16-14 07:30 AM

I certainly don't feel that way. I'm a perma-Clyde. With my build, I'll likely never be under 200 lbs.

Which is fine with me, the folks on this particular sub forum are some of the most friendly and helpful that I've run into across the Internets. That's really impressive for a couple of reasons. Most people on the Internet use the anonymity to dog people. Also, serious (skinny) cyclists I've interacted with IRL are a lot of times... dicks to be candid. It's amazing that this little subsection of anonymous cyclists on the Internet are so friendly and welcoming.

Me personally, I'm proud to be a "jailed" member of this group.

spdracr39 08-16-14 07:35 AM

Labels and numbers don't really mean anything. Most of us are here because we choose to be. I graduated but still come in to inspire, answer questions, and read the information others put out there. This forum section is just a different perspective on bicycle riding not a punishment for those that have been labeled overweight.

baron von trail 08-16-14 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Jarrett2 (Post 17041790)
I certainly don't feel that way. I'm a perma-Clyde. With my build, I'll likely never be under 200 lbs.

Which is fine with me, the folks on this particular sub forum are some of the most friendly and helpful that I've run into across the Internets. That's really impressive for a couple of reasons. Most people on the Internet use the anonymity to dog people. Also, serious (skinny) cyclists I've interacted with IRL are a lot of times... dicks to be candid. It's amazing that this little subsection of anonymous cyclists on the Internet are so friendly and welcoming.

Me personally, I'm proud to be a "jailed" member of this group.

What...you don't like "Roadies"?


i'm usually in P&R. I occasionally post in commuting. But, I come here to lose weight.

zjrog 08-16-14 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by baron von trail (Post 17041046)
6'3". I'm doomed. :(

At 6'3", I'm a Clyde. And proud. In my best shape at 30 years of age I was still 230 or so. I cut once a few years before down to 190 and was not comfortable at all. It was with great delight, I could drop roadies on my mountain bike, with a touring triple crankset and a 53t big ring. I broke parts the weight weenies promised would hold up on my road bike. Not because of weight either. Sort of miss those days...

A couple decades have passed. Health issues, and family stuff and career stuff got in my way. The bike was always there, but it wasn't the same relationship... One total knee replacement later, I was back on the bike. And then I crashed. Bad. Six months of physical therapy after a surgery to put my spine back together, I have a desire to be on the bike. But fear has held me back... I have yet to repair the bike I crashed on. And that crash was 3 years ago, next week...

I'm a Clyde. This is no jail or cycling hell. This is life, and can be a good one. Thanks for the insult, may the bluebird of happiness find your shoulders repeatedly...

linnefaulk 08-16-14 11:34 AM

Even at my fittest, I was still an Athena. I'll never be model thin and that's OK. I am just trying to be the best I can be and we come in all shapes and sizes.

fietsbob 08-16-14 12:14 PM

Clyde is the river that flows through Glasgow , Scotland..

Willbird 08-16-14 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by baron von trail (Post 17041763)
It's one thing to go into the county jail on Wednesdays as a drug councilor. It's quite another to be regularly sent there to serve 90-day stints.


Good luck with your goal. I won't be under 200 by January, but if I do well, I'll be back down in the teens.

well I have been an inmate twice for DWI, and went back to speak in the "sober living" unit in the Toledo Jail. Visiting is much nicer. :-).using MFP I have been able to nail 2lbs a week, 2.9 actually, I was 237 this morning4.5 mos to go til jan 1 so hoping to make it :-). If I do not it just means it will take another month . Something really shook loose this week because I am down 4 this week based on a 7 day average :-).I changed two things, got an HRM and focused more in structured HR rides, and I stopped drinking monster lo carb one a day, the monster may have creatine which will put a couple pounds on you.


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