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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 10-27-14, 01:10 PM
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Hi, New member looking for some guidance and a bike

Hi All, Long time lurker and new member looking to purchase a more road friendly bike. Just a little background about me. Age is north of 50 and weight is north of 340. Used to ride a mtb allot, I have a Trek 4500 with upgrades that I used for light to medium range trails for quite a few years. In the last couple of years i had both my knees scoped, and between that and a lack of exercise the weight skyrocketed.

I have gotten back into riding although i don't particularly do as much trail and would like to get into more road. I've used my mtb on the road with road tires but looking to purchase a more road friendly bike. I don't want full blown road bike per say for reasons of my weight, but want something I can do mostly road and maybe some light trail. I started looking around and it seems the cyclocross category would work well for me due to the wheels, either a wide 700 or 29er.

So far from what I've read, I'm liking the Gravity Zilla the most. Also considering the Fuji Sunfire 2.0 but don't really want a front suspension and the Motobecane Cross Trail.

Appreciate any your opinions and suggestions on a bike and my comeback to biking.

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Hi, first time poster here too, but also a long time lurker.

Firstly, is there any reason why you are focusing on BikesDirect bikes? Cost I assume? You'd be better off talking to your LBS about suitable bikes. Not that I can talk, I bought a bike online too, but I have a decent amount of wrenching experience, so I'm comfortable doing all the annoying things you have to do with a bike-in-a-box, like rebuilding and re-greasing poorly factory installed bearings!

Cyclocross is a good choice if you want a drop handlebar bike, as they're usually built for punishment and with low gearing (good for hills). Higher end ones come with disc brakes as well, which gives you the best stopping power (important as us Clydes have momentum in spades).I bought a cyclocross bike when I weighed 290lbs (I'm down around 260lbs now), and I've ridden over 2200 miles on it and have been very happy. The ability to put bigger tires on a cross bike is useful, as it makes for a more comfortable ride for heavier riders.

The biggest issue you'll have (and any Clyde) is with the wheels. Wheels are typically the weakest link on most bikes, and the best upgrade. They're also the thing that typically are not designed with a heavier rider in mind, often going for fashionable low-spoke counts over durability. The problem is that you'll be breaking spokes in no time, so unless you're willing to buy a new wheelset, go for a bike that has a decent number of spokes on the back wheel. 32 is good. 36 is better, but you'll not find many bikes with that many spokes out of the box.

The best advice I can give is to keep on riding your Trek! I rode my old mountain bike for 2 years before getting the cross bike, and although the cross bike was a great upgrade, riding the mountain bike got me on the path to better fitness.
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Along with a cyclocross bike, try test riding a hybrid angled toward the road direction, or a "fitness" bike.

I ride a Trek 7.3 FX, and I am very happy with it, but next year I will probably start riding my vintage touring bike (with a modern group I put on it a few years back). I will have virtually the same position as my FX when I am on the hoods, but have a slightly more aero position when I am in the drops. I would possibly opt for a cyclocross bike if I were buying, but I already have the touring bike... The primary difference for a casual rider is that the cyclocross might be better performing, and the touring bike might be more "cushy".

I would also explore the emerging group of bikes that are sometimes labeled as gravel grinders...
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Hi thanks for your response....
Not really hung up on bikes direct but cost is always a factor. Just doing some initial research and i found that allot of folks have had good experience with bikes direct. I can turn a wrench and have worked on my trek and have put a few together so i'm comfortable with that.
I have a second wheel set for my trek that are heavier duty than the stock wheels with Bontrager FE3 26x2.35 for the more serious mountain riding, but that makes for a really heavy bike. Was looking for something more road friendly....I have considered just sticking with mtb for now till i get my weight down some.
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Talk to your local bike store, and see what they have in the used road bikes that fit you. Take the savings (some of it, all of it, your choice) and do some upgrades. Many people trade in their bikes for many reasons. I traded in my oldest son's mountain bike as he outgrew it, but some trade their bikes in to trade up to a more current model.

Get out there and spin some pedals, and make it fun.
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I will second LD's suggestion that you check out some fitness hybrids. Many of us re-entering cycling have done so via these hybrids. And even if you move on to a road bike or cyclocross, the hybrid's great to keep in your stable for commuting, errands, etc.
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I love my Surly Long Haul Trucker. Got my custom, hand-built wheels (which each cost more than the frame). I'm a really big guy (north of 550) so I was looking for something tough, and of course wheels to match.
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If you're going to look at hybrids, don't discount the Jamis Coda Sport. Quality Steel frame (more comfortable than riding Aluminum), relatively strong wheels, only about a pound heavier than the Trek 7.3.
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I test rode a new Trek Shift 4 the other day and it seemed like a good sturdy bike with a weight rating of 350#. It has double walled 26 inch rims and 13 gauge spokes. I'm not too crazy about the front suspension but it does have a lock out. I may end up with one myself
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I put 1800 miles on my hybrid starting in June, I have a road bike now, and I dearly love the variety of hand positions the drop bars offer.
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Originally Posted by BigMo59
I test rode a new Trek Shift 4 the other day and it seemed like a good sturdy bike with a weight rating of 350#. It has double walled 26 inch rims and 13 gauge spokes. I'm not too crazy about the front suspension but it does have a lock out. I may end up with one myself
Seems like a nice bike but I basically have this now with my trek 4500. Including the lockout with the upgraded front fork.
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I put 1800 miles on my hybrid starting in June, I have a road bike now, and I dearly love the variety of hand positions the drop bars offer.
My thought as well. I added bar extenders to my MTB (cow horns) for the added hand positions. I feel with a flat bar I'll miss that variety. Which is why I'm leaning towards a Cyclocross style bike.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
If you're going to look at hybrids, don't discount the Jamis Coda Sport. Quality Steel frame (more comfortable than riding Aluminum), relatively strong wheels, only about a pound heavier than the Trek 7.3.
The Jamis coda sport looks nice, too bad it doesn't come with drop bars. Jamis definitely has some nice offerings. Need to find a dealer and have a closer look. Both the Nova and Adventure line (Bosanova) have my interest. Thanks for the tip.

Why is steel more comfortable than aluminum?

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another vote for the Surly Long Haul Trucker
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Originally Posted by BigBill2
The Jamis coda sport looks nice, too bad it doesn't come with drop bars. Jamis definitely has some nice offerings. Need to find a dealer and have a closer look. Both the Nova and Adventure line (Bosanova) have my interest. Thanks for the tip.

Why is steel more comfortable than aluminum?
The steel vs Aluminum bit has to do with the fact that some steel frames and forks are designed to flex more than some Aluminum frames. Steel makes a better spring than aluminum more or less. My Trek 7200 hybrid feels pretty stiff in comparison to my Fuji Sportiff, and both are Aluminum....but there are a lot of years of innovation in between the two bikes. The earlier aluminum bikes were all straight round tubes(probably butted at the ends), where many of the ones they make now are hydro formed aluminum that has tapers and non round tubes...world of difference.
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road bars may add some strain to you body as the riding position will change. for this "flat" bars my be better. since you are coming back from some injuries and addressing weight concerns, I would suggest you see a LBS for suggestions. this is a good time to buy at the end of the season and before the holidays. I personally would stick with the Trek for a few months then reward yourself with a new bike.
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I'd look for a good used Surly Pugsley on your local craigslist. Great bike to help you drop pounds.
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I personally would stick with the Trek for a few months then reward yourself with a new bike.
I'm very much considering and will probably do that. I realize I need to drop some weight first and foremost. My trek is actually in really good shape and with the upgraded wheels I have and a set of road worthy tires will probably be fine for now. Drop the weight, get below 300 by spring and reward myself with a bike is starting to sound more like the plan...In the mean time I can window shop.

Thanks all for your input...you guys are great...will be visiting often with updates on my progress.
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Originally Posted by BigBill2
I'm very much considering and will probably do that. I realize I need to drop some weight first and foremost. My trek is actually in really good shape and with the upgraded wheels I have and a set of road worthy tires will probably be fine for now. Drop the weight, get below 300 by spring and reward myself with a bike is starting to sound more like the plan...In the mean time I can window shop.

Thanks all for your input...you guys are great...will be visiting often with updates on my progress.
Yea I burned up the road with my bike I had for sure before buying a road bike :-). A road bike at 215 lbs was a far easier proposition than the 280 I started with :-).

The "gravel" type endurance geometry class is really taking off too right now, mainstream bikes go through cycles, like a lot of other things, they gather in new cyclists with some new thing, it was MTB in the early 90's, now it might b e fat bikes maybe, then they talk those cyclists into going N > 1 :-).

If you want some drool time have a look at the Felt V and F series, like this example :-).

V100 - Felt Bicycles

Comes with 700x32 tires (I seen some specs that even larger will fit fine) :-), 32H rims front and rear, geared exactly like my Sportiff.
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Yea I burned up the road with my bike I had for sure before buying a road bike :-). A road bike at 215 lbs was a far easier proposition than the 280 I started with :-).
Just don't think you have to get down to 215lbs before you can ride a road bike! Well, maybe with the stock wheels you do.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
Just don't think you have to get down to 215lbs before you can ride a road bike! Well, maybe with the stock wheels you do.
This is true, I test rode some on my down and nothing assploded. :-)
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