>>>>It gets old having mostly people on high end road bikes dressed in full bike gear thinking they should not have to follow the rules <<<<<<

I'm not sure that's really the case. Perhaps it's just the ones on high-end road bikes dressed in full bike gear that we notice and expect more of?

With family, especially immediate family, you talk about and work it out. If it's friends you don't see eye to eye with you save the friendship by not riding together.

For my part, I have enough responsibilities and worries, and enough friends and family I care for and about, that I don't see any need to fritter away energy over concerns about strangers, especially since there's so little I can do about it anyway.

Years ago, I used to join a local weekly pickup ride, that often had 30 or more riders. This was a very fast paced bunch ride, and over a number of years grew to become very sloppy with an accident/injury rate as befits riding that way. Solution--- I stopped riding with those people. The ride is still going strong, and there are still regular crashes, but it's no longer my problem

So what ??...Did he put you or other people in danger when he did that ??

Absolutely nothing.

Keep your mouth shut and just ride your bike. It's not your job to lecture other cyclists on cycling etiquette.

In this area (Greater Cincinnati) yes it is. It is not the case every place I have lived. I lived 100 miles north of here and did not see this happening often.
I rode in the Muncie In. area often and did not see it near as much

Yes blowing through stop signs put the people he may not see in danger trying to miss him
Yep answer to every thing these days , don't get involved
I don't need friends that think they are above the rules/shouldn't have to follow the laws no great loss

Sooner or later the people that blow throw stop lights/signs will get broke of it the problem is the people who the run in front of, and the people that try to keep them alive till help gets there suffer.

Ever heard of the Idaho stop law? Look it up.


I think it's difficult to be happy if you are not friends with yourself. I almost never speed these days since I intentionally drive well under the speed limit but when I do speed I do not beat myself up. I also don't dress my friends down when they speed occasionally.

There is a big difference in blowing through stop signs , most of the time not even touching the brakes and slowing way down being prepared to stop then going through. Same with a traffic light that doesn't trip stop and then crossing if safe.
There is also a difference in someone who gets caught speeding then whines, cries, *****es that Cops are just picking on them for the next year , and the person who gets caught owns up, pays the fine and that is the end of it . I can live with the second type of person I have no use for the first type

this essentially never happens (at least not intentionally).

Lets not forget that in many if not most states it is legal for bikes to run red lights if it is safe and if it is one of those lights that are activated by the metal in a car.

Of course not, no peace officer in his right mind, would get involved with such a non event while off duty.

Around here it does . I see it happen multiple times a week around University of Cincinnati. I work in that area . I have never been up on the Loveland trail that I haven't someone run through a stop sign at full speed. That being said I have lived many places . This area is the only place I have lived, that I have seen so many jerks on bicycles

The world is not your lawn.

Don't turn yourself into a public crusader. If the offender is a motorist he or she is putting others in danger so call 911 and leave the road-ragers to the cops. If the offender is a cyclist or a pedestrian he or she is putting him or herself in danger and fate will catch up to him.

be sure to don your junior deputy badge before approaching this scofflaw cyclist

I am 61 ,ride about 6 days a week, maybe 20 miles at a time mostly on a fixed gear bike. I run lights at least 3 or 4 times every ride and dont care what anyone thinks about it.

I suppose someone chasing you down to lecture you about it is highly likely to get you to change. (don't respond, it's rhetorical)

I suspect that a collision with a green-light jumper might.

I got a cell phone, which can be used to report unsafe/illegal activity. 80% of the time, my call results in police catching the person.

- Andy

I usually fully stop at the light look both ways and if it is safe to continue then I start going. I have done that couple of times and so far nothing has happened.

I see it every day and since I run across only a few people wearing kit on my commute, it's mostly the people who don't wear spandex that are guilty. At least in this area there isn't much of a correlation.

On my favorite group ride we always got "the talk" about obeying traffic laws. This ride was sponsored by a particular bike shop and lots of riders were wearing their kit. They didn't want their name associated with scofflaws I guess. In spite of "the talk" not everyone abided by the rules all the time. Especially those that were at the tail end of a pack as the light turned red.

I highly doubt that police would respond to a such a call and waste their time looking for some cyclist who ran a red light or a stop.

The type of bike that somebody is riding or the type of clothing that somebody is wearing has nothing to do with it. I have seen all types of different cyclists run lights and stops. It's more dependent on location then anything else, in some places it's easy to get away with it. Here in my suburbs cops have far more important things to do then waste their time catching scofflaw cyclists. I leave home at 5:30-6:00 AM, not much traffic, it just doesn't make sense for me to stop and wait for every light to change.

I'm assuming he didn't run into you are come close to doing so since you didn't mention it. So, based on that assumption:

A. Why do you care?
B. Who are you to "give him an ear full"?
C. If you really think it's that big a deal, call the police. They enforce traffic laws for a living. But you don't, right?

Ok, thanks for sharing your opinion. Since i'm actually present for the interaction, i'll stick to my 80% figure. :)

- Andy

i run traffic lights in full view of law enforcement officers on a near weekly basis with complete impunity. my interpretation of this lack of enforcement is that they have better things to do than ticket cyclists for doing things that harm no one and are 100% legal the next state over.

The only thing to do, is to try and find out if his frame size will fit you, and hope it does not get badly damaged in the accident.