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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 17741681)
Still, I don't know if you are going to make much or anything putting new 105-level parts on these bikes.
I ordered the new 105 bits from England -- about $250 for the shifters, derailleurs and brakes -- so that saved a bunch of money. Paying retail locally for the Thomson seat post and Nitto stem was the biggest blow to my budget, but those are the kind of things that really make for a nice build. Having built with (mostly) new components, the only thing really setting this back from a brand new bike is that there are chips in the paint. That would happen soon enough anyway and helps me personally with my reluctance to lock the bike to a rack. |
Originally Posted by Andy_K
(Post 17739278)
Yeah, I'm not so much interested in making money as I am in indulging in bike rejuvenation as a hobby without losing money. If I could put some nice bikes back in circulation in the process, that would be a bonus. Even so, I think you're right about CL and bargain hunting. I'm thinking I'd need to find a way to market these as "new again" bikes or something.
It seems to me that I read on this forum about some bike shop (maybe in Eugene?) that sold bikes like this. Sweet Buenos Aires! I've had mine for about a year now. Having a bright yellow bike makes every day sunny! :) https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5154/...21e1c7e2_k.jpg |
Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 17741705)
I just noticed the healthy headset spacer on both the Nevada City and Buenos Aires. Any idea why they did that? Seems like it would allow them to use forks with the same steerer length for a couple frame sizes, or to use replacement headsets with varying stack heights, but that's just speculation...
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Nooooooooooo!!!! :twitchy: |
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 17741780)
Sweet Buenos Aires! I've had mine for about a year now. Having a bright yellow bike makes every day sunny! :)
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I'm glad mine had the spacer. I'm getting too old for that low-bar action! I guess if some whippersnapper bought one they could have the steerer cut down.
A nice thing about the 2001 Buenos Aires is that they fit 30mm tires if you're inclined to ride some gravel. I even fit a 32mm knobby on the front but the knobs would rub the fork when standing to pedal. |
Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 17741742)
Here's one for you.
fixed gear bike. Greg Lemond http://images.craigslist.org/01111_d...Yc_600x450.jpg http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=446708 At least they found a use for that 14" piece of brake cable housing they were saving. |
Yeah, I've got 700x28's on mine now and was surprised to see how much space was left.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
(Post 17741817)
Nooooooooooo!!!! :twitchy:
Originally Posted by tjspiel
(Post 17741948)
No BMX pegs to go with that stem and bars?
What were they thinking? At least they found a use for that 14" piece of brake cable housing they were saving. |
Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 17741977)
I can't tell what the frame is, if indeed it's even a Lemond.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
(Post 17739768)
Well, it says it is and it weighs about a pound. I guess in 2001 they didn't make carbon forks quite the way they do now.
But I hear you. It looks just like the steel fork on my old Nevada City. |
Icon Carbon Classic fork, sayeth the catalog
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Originally Posted by dynaryder
(Post 17742449)
Just check it with a magnet. It's def not alloy.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
(Post 17739175)
This was the aforementioned Nevada City when I bought it on CL.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/...4f74cf81_z.jpg Why would someone do that? I think this is more egregious than the hipsters who buy classic road bikes and turn them into fixies. |
Originally Posted by kickstart
(Post 17742523)
but if its something thats not really rare or unusual then why not set it up to be ridden and enjoyed as one prefers.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
(Post 17741667)
I couldn't wait for the weekend. It's now officially a commute bike.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8709/...aa69e2aa_b.jpg I'll have to wait for a sunny day to take some glamour pics. ;) |
Originally Posted by Andy_K
(Post 17742540)
Well, a bike that's ridden is obviously better than one that isn't, but I like to think each bike has a natural form to which it aspires. It's kind of like the Levitical statutes against wearing clothes made from two different fabrics..it's against the natural order of things. Thou shalt not put a flat bar and a big cushy seat on a road bike. Plus the geometry is wrong for that.
Its like people who say if you want a "Dutch" bike, save your money and make one out of a cheap old steel road bike. Sure, it will probably turn out to be a good utility bike, but it won't have the advantages of a real roadsters geometry. Personally there's only one thing I would never put on a road bike.......me. But that's a preference, not a quantification of road bikes. |
Originally Posted by kickstart
(Post 17742523)
I kinda get what you're saying, I rescued a 1935 Raleigh sports model from becoming a fixie, but if its something thats not really rare or unusual then why not set it up to be ridden and enjoyed as one prefers.
In this case the previous owner took a pretty nice road bike and turned it into a common hybrid. It was a racing machine that was turned into one of the most pedestrian types of bikes there are. It's like putting the body of a minivan on a Porsche. As someone who likes road bikes but has never had anything nicer than a good entry level model, this is a crime. ;) If you're someone who doesn't give a rip about road bikes or actively dislikes what they represent then of course it wouldn't matter. And the owner of a bike is free to do with it whatever they like. |
Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 17739296)
Were the sellers older? Perhaps they had converted their nice road bikes into hybrids/townies to keep using them. ;)
My impression of a "hybrid" is that it's a different frame style altogether. The few that I've ridden were heavy and un-responsive. I don't know the correct terminology or technical reasons for how geometry affects the ride, but it seems to. And I suspect that lots of us enjoy riding road bikes even if we don't ever race. It's a luxury to ride a bike that's nicer than it needs to be for its use. Of course I felt a bit of nostalgic regret, and the drop bars are still in the garage somewhere. But maybe I was really feeling nostalgic about the days when I could actually ride a drop-bar bike. ;) |
Originally Posted by tjspiel
(Post 17742943)
In this case the previous owner took a pretty nice road bike and turned it into a common hybrid.
To be clear, I'm not even saying these LeMonds are exceptional bikes. The frame materials are above average quality, but the Nevada City was LeMond's entry level bike and the Buenos Aires was only a couple of steps higher. The frames are really what makes me like these. Plus I really like the panel paint scheme. |
There's a tradition of taking road frames and adding upright bars. How else are you going to get a nice light bike with fast handling and a flat bar? I don't think it's offensive. It goes back before the bike boom. There were Paramounts in this form, for example. The current top of the Trek FX line is basically the Tiagra level of the lowest carbon road bike frame, but with a flat bar.
It's also hard to find a purpose-built hybrid with components nicer than Deore/Tiagra. Specialized is a notable exception. (And good friggin' luck if you want a step-through better than Acera.) |
Beautiful bike. Glad you saved it. I think LeMonds are something special.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
(Post 17743215)
This is what I was thinking, except it's worse than that. They took a pretty nice road bike and turned it into a kind of crappy hybrid. That's why I think the fixie conversion isn't as bad, or at least can be not as bad. You can make a really nice singlespeed/fixed gear road bike out of a nice old road bike (assuming you don't do awful things like putting intentionally mismatched colored rims on it).
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 17743276)
There's a tradition of taking road frames and adding upright bars. How else are you going to get a nice light bike with fast handling and a flat bar? I don't think it's offensive. It goes back before the bike boom. There were Paramounts in this form, for example. The current top of the Trek FX line is basically the Tiagra level of the lowest carbon road bike frame, but with a flat bar.
It's also hard to find a purpose-built hybrid with components nicer than Deore/Tiagra. Specialized is a notable exception. (And good friggin' luck if you want a step-through better than Acera.) I've gone the other way and took a flat bar cross-country bike and put drops on it. I suppose that was the same kind of bike abuse only in reverse. It is hard to do without using a stem that makes the set up rather odd looking. Drops move you more forward than flats do. The frames have to be different to accommodate that. Taking a road bike and putting flats on it doesn't mean you're getting a fast hybrid. You will be more upright than you would be on a flat-bar road bike from the factory. What you're really getting is a lightweight comfort bike. Notice the wide saddles that were put on the bikes along with the flat bars. |
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