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Old 07-24-15, 07:00 PM
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Do you use a flashing front light during the day? If not, maybe you should...

So on the way home this afternoon a car started to pull out in front of me but stopped in plenty of time.

At the next stop light the same car was waiting to turn right, and as I pulled up the driver said, "That light is great; it made it really easy to see you!"

I put it on only a few weeks ago and it does seem to help being seen, even in broad daylight.

The best part is it wasn't at all expensive, but CREE technology has trickled down so it doesn't have to be.

This is what I am using:

240 Lumen Q5 Cycling Bike Bicycle LED Front Head Light Torch Larm with Mount | eBay

At three bucks there's no reason to not use something...
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I've never used a daylight flash but have had plenty of experiences with drivers continuing to creep out as I approach, making me wonder if they see me.
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Have been using a Cateye Volt 100 this year in flashing mode very often during the day, especially while commuting. Small light with 150 lumens in flash mode.
Previously had been using a Cateye Single Shot in flash on less-than-sunny or overcast days. I did have a fellow in a pickup truck tell me - at a stop sign on a long flat rural road - that the flash really helped him see me coming towards him.
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I have one of the little 2-cell (2032) front flashers I use on all but the sunniest days. For cloudy/inclement weather, it's the Magicshine knockoff from Amazon. It's just too bright for most situations. I've caught bounce-back from it off of a reflective sign and almost blinded myself.
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Yep. On rides in traffic. For the same reasons mentioned already. Lessons the chance for unobservant drivers to run us over!
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I always use flashing front and rear lights when riding my bike, day or night.
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These riders sure could use lights.

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I use a flashing rear light about 95% with or without a solid rear light, and a flashing Cygolight dash about 10% when also running a headlight, and 50% without a headlight.
I've never noticed any real effect either way, but I'm a very proactive cyclist.
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Recently while driving home from work (rare day) I noticed a bike rider with a white blinky and was impressed by how visible he was more than a block away. The next day (and every day since) I started using my white blinky on my homeward rides (ride to work is always dark) and anecdotally it seems to make a difference at intersections and strip mall driveways.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
I have one of the little 2-cell (2032) front flashers I use on all but the sunniest days. For cloudy/inclement weather, it's the Magicshine knockoff from Amazon. It's just too bright for most situations. I've caught bounce-back from it off of a reflective sign and almost blinded myself.
What is the Magicshine knockoff from Amazon? I'm perfectly happy with a couple NiteRider lights (bars & helmet) but am always interested in what else works.
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Originally Posted by rmfnla View Post
So on the way home this afternoon a car started to pull out in front of me but stopped in plenty of time.

At the next stop light the same car was waiting to turn right, and as I pulled up the driver said, "That light is great; it made it really easy to see you!"

I put it on only a few weeks ago and it does seem to help being seen, even in broad daylight.

The best part is it wasn't at all expensive, but CREE technology has trickled down so it doesn't have to be.

This is what I am using:

240 Lumen Q5 Cycling Bike Bicycle LED Front Head Light Torch Larm with Mount | eBay

At three bucks there's no reason to not use something...
+1

I got a no-name brand 300 lumen CREE headlamp with strobe and I love it so far (using it about three weeks). In broad daylight I can see the strobe reflecting off of a stop sign two blocks away. I want to get another one, color the lens red with a magic marker or something, and use it as a tail light... as I've never been fond of the little cheap red plastic blinkers. I like the CREE shown in your listing as it's even less expensive than mine and about half the size. I love mine but it is a little heavy "tactical" style metal flashlight with an emergency glass breaker (which I don't really need for cycling).
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Yup,
If the BIKE is MOVING, the LIGHTS are ON!!!
Been rolling that way for MANY years. Here in the HIT and RUN Capital of "GOOD OLD 'MURICAH".

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On the work commute, yes. It reduces pullouts noticeably.

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Would not ride in traffic with out one. I'm using a Cygolite Metro 600 on my primary commuter and a Metro 300 on the wet road bike. Have been using them continuously for more than a couple of years now and have made a couple of observations.

For a long time I had them aimed to shine / flash down the road to be seen as far as possible. I also had people tell me how far away they could see my light. Drivers could see me but they would "freeze" at intersections while I was still a long way from the intersection. That made me nervous because I didn't know what they were doing or intended to do. Through a thread on this forum and some experimentation, I learned something that has been working very well for me.

In that thread it was mentioned that a really bright flashing light, while being very noticeable, is also very hard to judge in terms of approach speed and distance. It can even be hard to determine what sort of vehicle the light is on when looking directly at it. Could that be what was causing the drivers to "freeze" as I approached? Easy experiment to find out.

I pointed the light down so that I could see the flash on the road 3-4 ft. in front of the front wheel. On the first ride in the lower light of morning, I could still see the light splash on road signs 1/2 block and farther away. That would mean drivers should be able to see me. As I continued on, the difference became obvious. It seemed to me that drivers were better able to judge my approach speed and make more reasonable decisions. I even noticed this yesterday at a busy intersection where I had one car turn in front of me (with plenty of room to spare) and the one behind him brake to let me go ahead (I had the right of way). I felt like I was in the flow of traffic and being seen, with drivers acting appropriately. Seems to me, having that light pointed so that it does not shine directly into drivers eyes makes you easier to identify and easier to judge your approach speed.

This may not work for everyone. I would say to conduct your own experiment on a section of road you feel comfortable doing so on and see what results you get. It would be interesting if those who do would report their results.
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Bike rolling, front and back lights flashing. Cygolite on both ends. Air horn on the tandem for those times I'm still not seen, my voice box works fine when I'm solo...

Cooincidentally, I own the cygolite because I was following a cyclist as a driver and was impressed by the visibility of the tail light so much that I flagged the cyclist down to find out what tail light he was rockin...
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Nope, I don't use front lights during daytime.
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What battery does it use?
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Really great information here. Thanks everyone.
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What battery does it use?
The description says it uses three AAA batteries.
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Glad I dont Live in LA.


there is a light sensor on my wired to the hub dynamo headlight, B&M, tail lights wired to headlight

in compliance with local EU/DE regulations, they dont flash.

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I do when I'm on the road - but at that price with free ship, I'm buying 2 more for backups......
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I also use a flashing light during daytime. Makes a difference.

Trailed behind a cyclist (while in my car) some weeks ago, at dusk, and he had three different taillights going, two of which were flashing at different patterns, one of which had an exceptionally-bright random flash tossed in every few seconds. Very, very visible. Made me appreciate the flashing modes I've got on my headlight and taillight setups. All my backup (battery) lights have a flash mode, too. Wouldn't be without it.
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The description says it uses three AAA batteries.
Thanks. Missed that.
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My only qualm with flashlights is that the lens isn't (generally) designed with a cutoff that's suitable for cycling. I take along a couple of small flashlights as backups, for situations where the primary bike light tanks; and they've got flashing modes, but not lenses with cutoffs. Makes it tougher with oncoming traffic. Have had drivers ticked off a bit, at me, in numerous instances when forced to fall back to the backup flashlight. Definitely not my first choice, bright though they might be.
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Originally Posted by HvPnyrs View Post
Yup,
If the BIKE is MOVING, the LIGHTS are ON!!!
Been rolling that way for MANY years. Here in the HIT and RUN Capital of "GOOD OLD 'MURICAH".
Me too. Thursday evening I was riding home from the office with a helmet light and a handlebar mounted light blinking when a driver and I approached each other from right angles. It was hard to notice each other until we were within about 10 feet, and she'd stopped by the time I noticed her. We were both grateful for having seen each other and I know my lights played a part in that.
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