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What is the lightest rear rack?
That's all! I want a rack for my bike, but a lightweight one...I won't be carrying more than 5-10 lbs on it...basically one bag with one change of clothes.
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I don't know if it is truly the lightest on the market, but Tubus makes a minimalist rear rack...I think it is called the Fly.
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I had this installed by the LBS when purchasing my new bike. It's very light, also the least expensive in the shop. The con is (obvious from the picture) it's completely hollow in the center and you'd need to put something on it either to serve as a fender blocking mud/dusts, or to prevent the load from touching the tire. Also magnets will not suck onto this alloy rack.
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Function is key over light weightness in my opinion. But that's with commuter bikes.
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Originally Posted by Hub Spanner
(Post 18198621)
I don't know if it is truly the lightest on the market, but Tubus makes a minimalist rear rack...I think it is called the Fly.
Bucks deluxe, but as with everything cycling, lighter = more costly. |
Originally Posted by tsl
(Post 18198927)
Actually, their lightest model is the Airy. Weighs 8.7 oz, 66 lb capacity. Tubus Airy Rear Titanium Bicycle Bike Rack
Bucks deluxe, but as with everything cycling, lighter = more costly. |
tsl, I thought that I had gotten used to prices for the fancier bike components. Still, that Airy bike rack price made my jaw drop a little!
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It really doesn't matter all that much unless it is made out of lead. Any decent aluminum rack will do just fine. It matters more what you put on it.
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Bontrager Backrack Lightweight is very very lightweight and will go on bikes with rack mounts, and bikes without rack mount (like full carbon bikes):
BackRack Lightweight - | Bontrager If you have rack mounts and want something that's also kind of a fender for the rear wheel, they make both a Small and Large version of the Backrack, here's the Large: BackRack L - | Bontrager Thing is, most racks are pretty lightweight. You're not gaining much by spending a ton more money. Most of my bikes just have the standard Topeak rack on them: Amazon.com: Topeak Explorer Bike Rack Because the less materials they use the less expensive it is to make, most aluminum racks are already pretty light and it may not be worth it to spend more money on something lighter just to save a few grams. You also have the weight of the trunk bag to add on, plus your clothes. The rack is just a very small amount of difference between a cheaper aluminum rack and a "lightweight" expensive one. The bigger question is - can you leave any clothes at a desk or something at work? I always leave shoes at my desk so I don't have to carry them back and forth. Pants and shirt are debatable and depend on the environment where I work - if they're bike friendly I leave them at my desk, if they seem uptight I'll carry them with me, then change in the bathroom before I get near my desk. I leave shoes at my desk either way as it's easy to change shoes at my desk. |
The old standby, Pletscher CS, 520g, $24.94
Pletscher made in Switzerland |
Originally Posted by tsl
(Post 18198927)
Actually, their lightest model is the Airy. Weighs 8.7 oz, 66 lb capacity. Tubus Airy Rear Titanium Bicycle Bike Rack
Bucks deluxe, but as with everything cycling, lighter = more costly. My old Blackburn rack has served me well for many years, with both light and moderate loads. You might consider a seatpost rack if you have a CF frame and no rack mounts. If I was replacing my rack, I'd choose one with a solid center strip, to act as both a cheap fender, and to keep the load from rubbing the rear tire. |
Originally Posted by PaulRivers
(Post 18199119)
Note that the drawback with that design (and the Fly) is that you cannot easily put a small trunk bag on top of it. It's shape makes it difficult / impossible. It's meant to carry a pannier - and that means more weight from the bag.
J. |
Looked at frame bags?
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Skip the rack and get a saddle bag like the jandd mountain wedge III if you're not carrying much and want to save weight. If 7.5 liters capacity isn't enough, take a look carradice saddlebags. The lightest rack is no rack.
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Originally Posted by JohnJ80
(Post 18200272)
I do it with some sail battens mounted on the rack with longer o-rings and then the bag strapped down with velcro straps. Don't notice any difference from being on a larger rack and I really like the trim light Tubus Fly and Airy (have them both).
J. |
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Originally Posted by PaulRivers
(Post 18200622)
Sure, that's why I said "cannot easily" - you can work around it, but it's not as straightforward as a rectangular-topped rack, it requires some sort of workaround.
J. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=479804 |
Nothing weighs less than a Part not installed.
If Lowest weight is your Highest priority forget putting Any Rack on at all . Then Again, You could buy Carbon fiber tubing and Make one of your own in the Garage. but putting anything on it may weigh too much. :lol: |
Originally Posted by JohnJ80
(Post 18200272)
I do it with some sail battens mounted on the rack with longer o-rings and then the bag strapped down with velcro straps. Don't notice any difference from being on a larger rack and I really like the trim light Tubus Fly and Airy (have them both).
J. |
Originally Posted by JohnJ80
(Post 18200919)
Actually, it's very easy. You could do it with popsicle sticks and rubber bands. I just used sail battens because I had some old ones laying around.
J. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=479804 That's a good pic. I've considered doing something similar because I've felt like it's the best looking rack with no bag on it, and with a bag on it the bag would cover up any odd attachments. But I'd be really annoyed if I ordered that rack because of a recommendation, and only after I got it and installed it found out that it required additional work to put a bag on it, wouldn't you? |
From the Bike Packing sector you can get a Bag to go behind your saddle to stuff Your Clothes Into
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 18200969)
Nothing weighs less than a Part not installed.
If Lowest weight is your Highest priority forget putting Any Rack on at all . Then Again, You could buy Carbon fiber tubing and Make one of your own in the Garage. but putting anything on it may weigh too much. :lol: You're also on average a 200lb rider, with about a 20lb bike. Adding or removing a pound or two is a tiny percentage of your overall weight. |
One 1st has to obsess over It.. I got over that , Long ago .. Things that work weigh what they do in order to do their Job.
Get on that Fabricating Job maybe you have a Market amongst Other Weight weenies. to sell them to . one of the posters in the Folding Bike forum had a carbon tube aluminum joined rack that they Got in Singapore. They live there. Googling bike packing seat bags gets a lot of pictured ones https://www.google.com/search?q=bike...w=1808&bih=959 this past June a number of the TransAmerica ACA racers used that kind of bags . No rack required. |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 18200969)
Nothing weighs less than a Part not installed.
If Lowest weight is your Highest priority forget putting Any Rack on at all . Then Again, You could buy Carbon fiber tubing and Make one of your own in the Garage. but putting anything on it may weigh too much. :lol: |
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Here's my trunk bag (Arkel Tailrider) mounted on the rack using this system. I used this to carry a DSLR and a 70-200mm lens mounted on it that day. Rack is the Tubus Fly which works very well since it's wider back deeper on the rack and then narrows to the front. Any flex side to side depends on the bands you use to attach the battens to the rack. If you use wire and twist it tight, that would be the most secure (very secure)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=479818
Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg
(Post 18200973)
can you post a photo of the Airy? I've never seen one 'in the wild'. Just the same catalog pix over and over.
Originally Posted by PaulRivers
(Post 18200985)
I feel like this could go on forever, it's not a competition over who can be the most clever - it's just about that someone ordering the rack should know it's not going to work well with a trunk bag out of the box.
That's a good pic. I've considered doing something similar because I've felt like it's the best looking rack with no bag on it, and with a bag on it the bag would cover up any odd attachments. But I'd be really annoyed if I ordered that rack because of a recommendation, and only after I got it and installed it found out that it required additional work to put a bag on it, wouldn't you? You don't have to put it on the bike to test it. You can do it off the bike and see how it fits first. No different than any other rack and bag combo. I guess I've always tried them out on the racks in the store or when I've gotten them all home and found that important to do. And, FWIW, I think you pretty much need to go through this with any rack and trunk bag if they are not from the same mfg and designed specifically to work together as well as how it's going to be loaded (and sometimes even then). That all said, I've gone away from rack trunks. I agree with the sentiment that the lightest rack is no rack and now use seat/saddle bags like this: https://bolderbikepacking.wordpress.com/saddlebags/ So I hardly ever use a trunk bag by itself anymore. A rack weighs more than a pound and close to two. A rack trunk without anything in it is one or two pounds. So that's three to four pounds of added weight before you even put anything in it. if I'm using panniers or pannier style bags, then I hardly ever need the trunk bag anymore either. For touring, I'd put the sleeping bag on top of the rack or my tent and not the a rack trunk. I find that the bike handles better with the weight close in and you get ride of the weight of the rack and the extra weight that is usually found in all the trunk bags (which tend to be heavy compared to the saddlebags). Since I tend to favor tighter geometries in my bikes, this matters to me. But if you want to use a trunk bag on a Tubus Fly or Airy, this is how you can do it. I think those are two of the best looking racks out there. And I really like how they tuck the side loads in closer to the bike by not having all that width up top. Worth the try if one is looking at these racks. And it would be prudent to make sure it's all returnable in the event that it doesn't work out (which is the same advice I'd give on any bag/rack combo). J. |
Originally Posted by tsl
(Post 18198927)
Actually, their lightest model is the Airy. Weighs 8.7 oz, 66 lb capacity. Tubus Airy Rear Titanium Bicycle Bike Rack
Bucks deluxe, but as with everything cycling, lighter = more costly.
Originally Posted by PaulRivers
(Post 18199119)
Note that the drawback with that design (and the Fly) is that you cannot easily put a small trunk bag on top of it. It's shape makes it difficult / impossible. It's meant to carry a pannier - and that means more weight from the bag.
I solved the problem by using a Racktime Trunkit bag but I ditched the Racktime mount and got a Ortlieb rack adapter and an Ortlieb basket adapter. With a little bit of McGuyvering on the bag, I have a system that snaps into place without having to hassle with velcro. The mount is solid enough that I can pick up the bike by the bag if I want and I've not had to worry about the bag coming loose nor flopping about...even on the narrow Airy base. You can see the adapter in the first picture and the bag/adapter in the second. The rack in the first picture is a Vega, by the way, with similar dimensions to the Fly. http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMGP2558.jpg http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psd481f59d.jpg |
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