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Shahmatt 10-18-15 09:02 PM

Not inexpensive but the Niteflux Whitezone is IMO amongst the best "be seen" lights.

erileykc 10-18-15 09:21 PM

The most effective light I can recommend from my 15 years of urban bike commuting isn't a bike specific light at all. I use a fairly cheap set of front bar light and rear flasher but for riding thru dense traffic with lots of random light pollution from retail windows and such I've taken to dangling under my saddle a low cost LED flashlight set to strobe . This illuminates my frame and my furiously peddling legs and is visually disruptive in the idea way for making an impression on cell phone distracted drivers. People have commented so I'm pretty sure it doing the job - that and still being alive and uninjured. Gotta switch it off on the dark back streets of course because its strength is its weakness, its damned annoying.

noglider 10-19-15 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by JohnJ80 (Post 18251686)
At $27 new from Amazon, I'd be shocked if it is. Don't hold your breath.

J.

I get your point. And I don't agree. For $27, I'd like it to remain useful for more than two or three years. Most of it is fine. The molded plastic is good. The LED is fine. The LED and the battery probably made up more than half the cost of manufacturing. Let's say, for argument's sake, each makes up 3/8 of the cost (and therefore value). So I should throw away 5/8 of a light? I'd be willing to pay half of the price, maybe even more, for a battery. I'd be willing to risk breaking it by taking it apart, too.

Hmm, this gives me a thought. If they consider the light to be trash, I'll open it and see what kind of battery it is and if I can find another.

Korina 10-19-15 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by San Pedro (Post 18240415)
and I think that has made my commute safer too, but bumpier as well.

Don't think of it as bumpy, think of it as adventurous! :D

2manybikes 10-19-15 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 18253091)
I get your point. And I don't agree. For $27, I'd like it to remain useful for more than two or three years. Most of it is fine. The molded plastic is good. The LED is fine. The LED and the battery probably made up more than half the cost of manufacturing. Let's say, for argument's sake, each makes up 3/8 of the cost (and therefore value). So I should throw away 5/8 of a light? I'd be willing to pay half of the price, maybe even more, for a battery. I'd be willing to risk breaking it by taking it apart, too.

Hmm, this gives me a thought. If they consider the light to be trash, I'll open it and see what kind of battery it is and if I can find another.

I was just thinking about that. Good idea. Nothing to lose.

noglider 10-19-15 11:22 AM

So as not to keep the thread drift going, I have my own thread about the Cygolite battery replacement.

ThermionicScott 10-19-15 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Korina (Post 18253402)
Don't think of it as bumpy, think of it as adventurous! :D

Unrelated, but I love the "Hyperbole and a Half" avatar. :thumb:

Korina 10-19-15 11:59 AM

Thanks, ThermionicScott; it reflects the level of my brain function, particularly today. I am utterly baffled at why I stayed up so late last night after a long hike. Danged Walking/Talking Dead.

...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Maelochs 10-20-15 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Slaninar (Post 18248887)
That light is bright enough. Brighter light won't help with the problems of drivers pulling out in front of you. I've tried 2 lights, one really bright, one regular cateye. Doesn't help. Even on the motorcycle that has 2 big front lights, people pull in in front of you.

Yeah, which is why so many people who ride at night recommend a Flashing front light, which does attract the mind of the driver.

The motorcycle rider can get a similar effect by weaving---in fact, that is what weaving does, but I am not about to start weaving across the lane on my bicycle. I have a flashing light which simulates a moving object and breaks through into a driver's awareness.

Motorcycle rider would do well to flash his lights instead of weaving, I'd think.

ColonelSanders 10-20-15 10:37 PM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Cateye Volt series.

Whilst there is the 150 & 200 Lumen models, I prefer to start with the Volt 300 and up.

I have two Volt 300's on my handlebars and a Volt 800 on my helmet.

The Volt's have a daytime flash, which brings in the light's highest lumen output.

So I like using the Volt 800 daytime flash during the day.

I will probably acquire their newly released Volt 1600 in the New Year.

Bike Gremlin 10-20-15 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 18257300)
Yeah, which is why so many people who ride at night recommend a Flashing front light, which does attract the mind of the driver.

The motorcycle rider can get a similar effect by weaving---in fact, that is what weaving does, but I am not about to start weaving across the lane on my bicycle. I have a flashing light which simulates a moving object and breaks through into a driver's awareness.

Motorcycle rider would do well to flash his lights instead of weaving, I'd think.

I strongly disagree. Both from theory and from personal experience. Flashing light works fine in daytime. In the night it makes it harder for the driver to judge speed and distance of the cyclist. It also helps driver catch the off phase of the light when checking for cyclist - cyclist's narrow profile and the fact that it can be blocked by any land post or even car post that holds the windscreen - all make it important to stay visible all the time. That is why I'd never recommend a flashing light for night riding. Haven't noticed it helping even as a backup to a steady light.

San Pedro 10-21-15 02:39 AM

What I've been doing the last week is using my Cateye on the bright level, not flashing, and the helmet light flashing. I'm still considering a brighter light, but I don't like that the battery life is about 300 charges (according to Cateye on their Volt series). I like battery lights, just for the longer life span, less frequent charging. I'm also thinking to get a safety color long sleeve jersey. Once it's cold enough I'll wear my blinding Pearl Izumi jacket.

10 Wheels 10-21-15 02:47 AM

Good One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs6YZk1QZdM

cyccommute 10-21-15 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by San Pedro (Post 18258041)
What I've been doing the last week is using my Cateye on the bright level, not flashing, and the helmet light flashing. I'm still considering a brighter light, but I don't like that the battery life is about 300 charges (according to Cateye on their Volt series). I like battery lights, just for the longer life span, less frequent charging. I'm also thinking to get a safety color long sleeve jersey. Once it's cold enough I'll wear my blinding Pearl Izumi jacket.

That battery life is common for almost all lithium-ion batteries. It's a function of the chemistry and engineering of the battery cell. If you stay away from proprietary batteries like the Cateye and Cygo, replacement batteries are fairly easy to find and relatively cheap. The Magicshine clones that you find on Fleabay and Amazon for about $20 use 18650 Li-ion cells in a 2s/2p (two in series/two in parallel) configuration and a fairly standard cord that are around $10 to replace.

If you want or need more run time, you can get battery packs that use 26650 cells for about $20 in the same configuration. They have about twice the run time of the 18650 cells. I get 2 to 3 hours of run time on the smaller cells and 4 to 6 hours on the larger cells if I run my lights on high. Personally, 4 to 6 hours is more than I've ever needed on a night time ride.

revcp 10-21-15 08:27 AM

Having recently rediscovered Sigmasport for computers and lights, I'll put in my vote for the Buster 600 (BUSTER 600). At $99 it's more than the magic shines of the world, but less than L&M, NiteRider, etc. My bias is for a self contained light, meaning no cords to separate batteries, and this fits that bill. The Buster is aluminum, so nice and rugged. It's well sealed from water. It has a good beam pattern, good runtime (2 hours at 600 lumen, 5 hours at 250, 11 hours at 110), good attachment to the bike. It also has 70% and 30% battery level indicators, so I know well in advance if I need to switch to a lower output to conserve energy. Just a great light.


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