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readygetsetBen 11-22-15 07:19 PM

Suspension commuter?
 
Hey everyone. saw an image of a really cool road/hybrid bike that had a suspension fork, but not some lousy urban suntour thing, a real rockshox fork. I was wondering if putting a nice legit suspension fork with a sweet hydraulic disc brake for the front would be sick! It's a 2014 or 2013 trek 7.1 so it's a 3x9 with v brakes and wide risers. I've been told maybe putting cantilever brakes would be cheaper, more fun upgrade but sounds like a lot more hassle than good ol' v brakes.

thanks!

wunderkind 11-22-15 11:10 PM

Some people commute on a unicycle too. Anything goes dude. Hey if you want to ride on a sweet Kona Supreme Operator... that's cool too. Should make short work of the Mount Royal steps!
Lots of folks ride hardtail to work. You use what you got. Then the addiction kicks in and you end up with something more balanced to your riding condition. Most folks' commute on paved roads or packed trails. So riding efficiency is a consideration.

bikinglife 11-22-15 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by wunderkind (Post 18338827)
Some people commute on a unicycle too. .


My Dad actually saw this the other day.

joeyduck 11-23-15 12:51 AM

My wife saw someone in Calgary this morning on their unicyle heading to work.

RubeRad 11-23-15 04:00 PM

I seem to recall seeing an article about an extreme urban bike with suspension, must have been a C'dale because the fork was a Lefty

dynaryder 11-23-15 04:09 PM

That bike was never intended to have front suspension,so adding a sprung fork will mess with your geometry. You may not like the way it handles after the mod.

Not a fan of suspension personally. Lots of weight,sucks up power when climbing,and you get fork dive when braking. We've been building some fat bikes at the shop lately;I'd go with a bike with fat tires over suspension. Built a Med Surly Krampus Ops that weighed 30lbs 1oz with pedals,that's the same as my Safari. Pretty good for a monster like that.

yooperbiker 11-23-15 04:12 PM

Bikes with suspension forks are designed to handle the extra height of the fork. Retrofitting a suspension fork to a bike designed with a rigid fork ends up with the head tube too high and alters the bike's geometry and handling, and is not recommended because of it.

Replacing V brakes with cantilevers sounds like a wasted effort to me.

fietsbob 11-23-15 04:21 PM

How about a Moulton bike ? MOULTON Bicycle Company fast and dually suspended .. can be bought separable to go in car boots.

RubeRad 11-23-15 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 18340682)
I seem to recall seeing an article about an extreme urban bike with suspension, must have been a C'dale because the fork was a Lefty

link


We’ve tested a couple of different travels. It’s less [travel] than an enduro bike, and more than zero,” Johnson teased.“It’s not cross-country travel, but it doesn’t need to be. The geometry still needs to stay functional for what it is. It’s a ’cross bike, and it needs to turn. You get stability with the suspension. You don’t need the bike to be splayed out.
So the suspension is limited, I think the same effect could be got just from larger tires, although if you want to spend $$, there's no end of ways to do it!

GovernorSilver 11-23-15 04:49 PM

Somebody brought up Moulton on another forum. They sure look nice, for those who can afford them. That sweet looking New Series Double Pylon is only &13,000.

Darth Lefty 11-23-15 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by readygetsetBen (Post 18338489)
Hey everyone. saw an image of a really cool road/hybrid bike that had a suspension fork, but not some lousy urban suntour thing, a real rockshox fork. I was wondering if putting a nice legit suspension fork with a sweet hydraulic disc brake for the front would be sick! It's a 2014 or 2013 trek 7.1 so it's a 3x9 with v brakes and wide risers. I've been told maybe putting cantilever brakes would be cheaper, more fun upgrade but sounds like a lot more hassle than good ol' v brakes.

thanks!


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 18340682)
I seem to recall seeing an article about an extreme urban bike with suspension, must have been a C'dale because the fork was a Lefty

Cannondale Slate?

I love the suspension fork on my MTB, can't see the need on a dirt road though. The Cannondale Slate's Lefty has 30mm travel, what the hell is the point of that on a bike with 42mm tires? Slate 105 retails for $2980, even though their aluminum MTB with XT and a Lefty (F-Si 1) is $2340 and a CAADX 105 Disc is $1570. Maybe that's the point.

Cannondale also had some bikes about 10-15 years ago (XS800 cyclocross & Silk Road touring) that had Head Shok forks.

RubeRad 11-23-15 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 18340976)
The Cannondale Slate's Lefty has 30mm travel, what the hell is the point of that on a bike with 42mm tires?

I know, right? I think my Reba shock travels 30mm even when 'locked out'!

cyccommute 11-24-15 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by dynaryder (Post 18340715)
That bike was never intended to have front suspension,so adding a sprung fork will mess with your geometry. You may not like the way it handles after the mod.

Not a fan of suspension personally. Lots of weight,sucks up power when climbing,and you get fork dive when braking. We've been building some fat bikes at the shop lately;I'd go with a bike with fat tires over suspension. Built a Med Surly Krampus Ops that weighed 30lbs 1oz with pedals,that's the same as my Safari. Pretty good for a monster like that.

Cheap forks suck power but then so do super wide tires. And wide tires have a lot in common with cheap forks...they are basically pogo sticks with no control of the suspension.

A good fork that can be locked out doesn't suck power on climbs and is useful is some situations. But a "good" fork is going to cost a fair chunk of change.


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 18341018)
I know, right? I think my Reba shock travels 30mm even when 'locked out'!

In my experience with a Reba fork, the "lock out" is more a suggestion than a reality. Mine traveled a whole lot more than 30mm when "locked out". More like 90mm for a 100 mm fork. I've found that Fox and Manitou forks have a much more positive lockout than any of the Rock Shox forks I have experience with. The Manitou's lockout has less travel than the Fox but the Fox is a much better fork.

RubeRad 11-24-15 10:08 AM

I'm happy though, if I stand and climb without lockout, I'm bouncing all over the place. If I stand and climb with "lockout", I can see by watching the stanchions that I'm moving, but I don't feel like I'm going all up and down. So it makes a difference.

Darth Lefty 11-24-15 10:23 AM

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