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Are you satisfied with your commuter bike or does your eye wander?

My latest crush is on the Marin Pine Mountain 1. A steel frame and a 1x10 drivetrain. Comes with tubeless ready rims and 27.5+ Schwalbe Nobby Nic tires, which due to the hydraulic disk brakes, you could swap out with lighter 700c road wheels with big slicks to quickly go from weekend MTB to daily commuter and back. Rack and frame bag mounts, dual rear eyelets, conventional 100/135 spacing. I'm sure there's something about it not to like, but I haven't found it yet.

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It's a super cool bike. I have a no suspension Motobecane X5 29+ but I only use it for mountain biking. I might have got the Marin if it were available at the time. I had an Exile SS 29er and it was an excellent ride.
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Anyone else? What is the bike you'd rather have? I think we're all susceptible to advertising and avarice.
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I love nice bikes, but I don't want to park one at work. I want to have a high performance bike that is not obviously high performance, but that takes a lot of work.

I think if I was going to have an expensive bike at work, it would be electric. I know, sacrilege.
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I'm having a fling with the Velo Orange Piolet: VO Piolet Frameset - Piolet - Frames. I'm attracted to the geometry, 26-inch wheels for the frame that would fit me, wide tires, disc brakes, and braze ons for everything. Plus, the bike is just gorgeous.

[IMG]Piolet frame on Flickr[/IMG]

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Originally Posted by Giant Doofus View Post
I'm having a fling with the Velo Orange Piolet: VO Piolet Frameset - Piolet - Frames. I'm attracted to the geometry, 26-inch wheels for the frame that would fit me, wide tires, disc brakes, and braze ons for everything. Plus, the bike is just gorgeous.

[IMG]Piolet frame on Flickr[/IMG]
Here's mine.

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@GeoKrpan - That's a stunning bike. How do you like it so far? I'm curious about the weight on this bike. Do you happen to know roughly what the frame weighed, or what the complete bike weighs?
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@GeoKrpan - That's a stunning bike. How do you like it so far? I'm curious about the weight on this bike. Do you happen to know roughly what the frame weighed, or what the complete bike weighs?
Thanks! You can probably get the weight of the frame and fork on Velo Orange. I haven't weighed my bike but it's not light, and, knowing the weight won't change it. : )) On the other hand it, is a dream to ride. The frame and fork are a work of art. Way prettier than a Fargo or an AWOL, and it will fit 29x3 Plus size tires.
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Originally Posted by Giant Doofus View Post
I'm having a fling with the Velo Orange Piolet: VO Piolet Frameset - Piolet - Frames. I'm attracted to the geometry, 26-inch wheels for the frame that would fit me, wide tires, disc brakes, and braze ons for everything. Plus, the bike is just gorgeous.

[IMG]Piolet frame on Flickr[/IMG]
Cool bike... actually pretty similar except for the orgy of braze-ons
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
Anyone else? ....
Since you asked, my first reaction was "price tag" but it's only $1k - $1.1K which isn't out of the question for a nice commuting bike.

Then like Giant Doofus I wondered about weight, and best I could tell it's alleged to be 30 pounds which isn't outrageous either for what it is. Personally I have to reach to find something to dislike and all I can really come up with is the the external bb which may be more personal prejudice than anything definite, and the wheels have to be heavy which would be said of any 29'er. I think it's a nice bike, fun to ride pretty much anywhere.
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I think the Marin mtn bike is smoking hot but I like being able to lock up my commuters and not worry too much about them being stolen. Right now my 1992 Trek 950 that I picked up for $125 is doing me just fine:



Trust me, I like that Marin a lot but more for bombing on trails than commuting. For a commuter, I like used bikes from CL; YMMV.
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Originally Posted by GeoKrpan View Post
Thanks! You can probably get the weight of the frame and fork on Velo Orange. I haven't weighed my bike but it's not light, and, knowing the weight won't change it. : )) On the other hand it, is a dream to ride. The frame and fork are a work of art. Way prettier than a Fargo or an AWOL, and it will fit 29x3 Plus size tires.
The web site doesn't list a weight. I was just curious. I don't worry too much about weight.

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Cool bike... actually pretty similar except for the orgy of braze-ons
They are pretty similar. I like the "orgy of braze-ons" (nice phrase!) since I never know what I'm going to want to attach to a bike.
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Since you asked, my first reaction was "price tag" but it's only $1k - $1.1K which isn't out of the question for a nice commuting bike.

Then like Giant Doofus I wondered about weight, and best I could tell it's alleged to be 30 pounds which isn't outrageous either for what it is. Personally I have to reach to find something to dislike and all I can really come up with is the the external bb which may be more personal prejudice than anything definite, and the wheels have to be heavy which would be said of any 29'er. I think it's a nice bike, fun to ride pretty much anywhere.
For $1000 MSRP most mountain bikes are Deore level and have a decent quality coil spring fork like a Rock Shox XC. Usually the ones with a better spec are from a budget brand. This bike has a nicer spec than most for the rest of the components because they are using the fat tires in lieu of the suspension fork. But I don't expect it's an exceptional deal for the price... at least not til next autumn :-)

This article has a misleading headline, it's really just a list of bikes around $1000 and not a ranking of the best under $1000, but it will show you the SOA.
Round up: Best value mountain bikes under $1000 - Mtbr.com
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Originally Posted by Giant Doofus View Post
The web site doesn't list a weight. I was just curious. I don't worry too much about weight.



They are pretty similar. I like the "orgy of braze-ons" (nice phrase!) since I never know what I'm going to want to attach to a bike.
The tube set is deluxe, meaning it's quality stuff and not hi-ten. It is built to stand the rigors of mountain biking so it's going to be built a little burlier.

The braze-ons for the cable routing are unique and so well designed as is the rest of the bike. Considering all the work that went into it, it is an really good value. The AWOL frameset actually costs more.
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My current #1 commuter is an '09 Marin Hamilton SS and #2 is a 90s Trek 830, so yes I would love to upgrade. That Pine Mntn is awesome but I also really like the Four Corners. I'll probably end up settling for a Nashbar CX SS or geared when the tax refund comes. Whichever I can afford.
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I always look at every bike. I'm just curious about how different people get around on bikes. For myself, I admit that I'm engrossed in a multi decade experiment to see how far a cheap bike from 1982 can carry me.
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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
I think the Marin mtn bike is smoking hot but I like being able to lock up my commuters and not worry too much about them being stolen. Right now my 1992 Trek 950 that I picked up for $125 is doing me just fine:



Trust me, I like that Marin a lot but more for bombing on trails than commuting. For a commuter, I like used bikes from CL; YMMV.
It's kind of cheating to claim a $125 bike, if you have more than that into the saddle...
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Damn, that Piolet frame has so many holes it's practically made of drillium!

Cool looking fork and matching wishbone seatstays though. For a bike made for 'adventure' though I think it would be better to have the RD hanger be replaceable instead of part of the dropout.
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I think the Marin mtn bike is smoking hot but I like being able to lock up my commuters and not worry too much about them being stolen. Right now my 1992 Trek 950 that I picked up for $125 is doing me just fine:



Trust me, I like that Marin a lot but more for bombing on trails than commuting. For a commuter, I like used bikes from CL; YMMV.
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It's kind of cheating to claim a $125 bike, if you have more than that into the saddle...
I think so too! Not to mention that in order for you to get this bike for $125 from Craigslist, someone had to buy it for about $800, 22 years ago, which would be $1300 today. The market requires such people in order to keep making new decent bikes.
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I think it would be better to have the RD hanger be replaceable instead of part of the dropout.
This is done on aluminum bikes, not for durability but because the hanger needs to be steel. On a steel bike it can usually be bent back straight again.
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It's kind of cheating to claim a $125 bike, if you have more than that into the saddle...
lol, fair enough. I picked up the bike for $125 without this saddle. The pedals, crank, saddle, and rack came from my parts bin; I did have to buy a new shimano cartridge BB as the old one was shot.
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That Marin is sweet. BikeSnob NYC is currently testing one and has plenty of good things to say about it, and at under a thousand, I believe, is a pretty good buy.

As for me, I'm not necessarily lusting after anything at the moment (though I would love one of those Marins, just not in the cards for me right now). I keep on the hunt for a sweet old Japanese bike like a Panasonic DS2000 or Miyata for a reasonable price. There is nothign really wrong with my commuter, but I would like a base to try a bit of a different set up just cause. Though at the moment I am working on getting a Trek 820 up and running for the wife with some modifications to it being more cruiser, less mountain bike. I also have a Peugeot ATB that the shifters are dying on me. I am migrating that thing over from low end shimano to Suntour XCM. Already have the FD there, and a RD and thumbies waiting to go on. It should also get a better crankset. I could do that, or try and convert it to a drop bar mtn bike...it has plenty of braze ons for stuff. I'm just not entirely sure what I want to do with it. I'll probably just stick it with being a mountainy bike, put a front rack/basket on and use it for chinese take out and getting to the pool in the summer.

Then there is my 29er, which I want to convert to a 1x10, as if I put a tire any wider than a 2.1" on the rear, it likes to rub on the FD when in granny gear. The frame is pretty nice, but all of the components suck.

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For me it would be either the Schindelhauer Friedrich



I saw a couple last week in Berlin with him on one of their fixed gear bikes and her on a white Thinbike. It looked so cool...

Or the Specialized AWOL Expert frameset.

The AWOL EVO looks really cool (except for that insanely wide porteur rack) but I want an IGH with beltdrive which that frame doesn't provide for.
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I'm more of a drop-bar kinda guy, so the Four Corners bikes are more up my alley. http://www.marinbikes.com/us/bikes/t...#four-corners/
Frankly, I would seriously consider one of them had I not just bought my AWOL.

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JaccoW, that Schindelhauer Friedrich is aa beautiful bike, but I don't understand the seat tube.
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