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Colorado Kid 01-08-16 06:18 PM

Why Use A Front Rack Or Basket
 
I've been interested in getting a front rack or a metal basket for my commuter bike. For those who have one, I have to ask, why? Is a front rack or basket better for carry somethings?

kickstart 01-08-16 06:36 PM

I have a frame mounted front rack on my gazelle, for really heavy loads it effects handling far less than on the back. It's also sometimes good to be able to keep an eye on what you're carrying for various reasons. Not real excited about bar or fork racks except for modest loads. Carrying things up front can also make mounting and dismounting easier.

old's'cool 01-08-16 06:50 PM

I prioritize front cargo on my commuting & utility bikes for the simple reason that the front wheel is inherently stronger (on a rear derailler bike with its narrowed, dished rear wheel) and carries a lighter load when no cargo is added. The majority of my broken spokes and other wheel issues have been on the rear wheel, over the years, so it's not an imaginary problem.
On a couple of bikes I have acquired or built extra strong 40 and 48 spoke rear wheels, which help address the strength vs load imbalance.
Regarding handling, added weight on the front tends to increase longitudinal stability, while detracting from agility, obviously.

350htrr 01-08-16 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by kickstart (Post 18445569)
I have a frame mounted front rack on my gazelle, for really heavy loads it effects handling far less than on the back. It's also sometimes good to be able to keep an eye on what you're carrying for various reasons. Not real excited about bar or fork racks except for modest loads. Carrying things up front can alsomake mounting and dismounting easier.

+1 :thumb:

loky1179 01-08-16 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by kickstart (Post 18445569)
Carrying things up front can also make mounting and dismounting easier.

The trick is to have the person riding on the handlebars carry the load. Then they can jump off before you come to a complete stop. See my avatar :).

mr geeker 01-09-16 09:55 AM

I love the basket on the front of my commuter, though I am going to be in the market for a new one here soon. I guess two years is the max for a cheap Bell brand folding basket. Anything and everything has found a place there on occasion, including a manikin.

TheLibrarian 01-09-16 10:11 AM

It holds my baquettes and cheeses.

Giant Doofus 01-09-16 11:33 AM

I use the front bag/basket for stuff I need ready access to when getting on or off the bike. The lock, keys, wallet, phone, kleenex, etc. ride up there on the way to work. Once I'm at the office, my helmet and high-vis vest stay in there during the day. During the shoulder seasons, I might have an extra layer in there or gloves and so forth. The pannier on back is for stuff that I won't get into or out of during the ride or right at the beginning or end: laptop, change of clothes, lunch, etc.

fietsbob 01-09-16 12:54 PM

Have an unlimited Budget? Hand made Porteur racks are very Nice ..

there are now off the peg bolt on racks of that type..

Less custom Paul's Flatbed is Aluminum . but more open than something like ..

The Wald Newsboy Basket. that wins for Low price and not so blingy as to attract bike Theft.

No suspension fork bikes need apply.


BTW dismounting is really easy with a Step Thru Frame ... Or the low bar of folding Bikes ..

AlTheKiller 01-09-16 01:10 PM

pros: small to midsize commuting loads make *MY* bikes handle less poorly compared to rear loads. Your mileage may vary.

cons: With a front rack set up you usually have less versatility for the dollar compared to rear racks, unless you just have the super basic wire baskets on front. Also many american hybrid/mtb/road commuter type bikes often have mounts for rear racks and nothing up front.

http://i.imgur.com/1FZkrAC.jpg
I like the wide platform up top, currently threw my rear panniers on the front and it handles them just fine but as you can see they are poking up awkwardly through the top... Currently making some mounts to hang a bit lower on the rack for panniers, so the top stays clear and accessible. Great for beer runs, though getting much past two dozen bottles can be awkward.

irwin7638 01-09-16 07:53 PM

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I have a VO Porteur rack and it's very convenient hold a briefcase, or bag of groceries. A rear rack is ok, but the front is just more convenient and simple.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=497539

Marc

randomgear 01-10-16 01:07 AM

A front basket is very nice to have, you always have a place to put purchases that you didn't expect. On the other hand, I find that they also collect half empty paper coffee cups.

canklecat 01-10-16 01:49 AM

While we're on the subject, any recommendations for a front rack under $50 to fit a suspension fork? The fork has rack mounts, including on the fork brace arch. Preferably narrower, not a wide porteur type. And flat, since I'll occasionally strap a plastic milk crate on if needed. Or, if there's an upswept ledge it should be toward the bike rather than away.

I'm probably too picky because that particular combination of attributes seems difficult to find.

the sci guy 01-10-16 03:43 AM

Maybe it's just because my load of clothes and shoes for the workday isn't heavy enough but I'm curious about what all this talk is about rear racks and loads making the bike harder to handle? I've never experienced this.

Darth Lefty 01-10-16 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 18448052)
Maybe it's just because my load of clothes and shoes for the workday isn't heavy enough but I'm curious about what all this talk is about rear racks and loads making the bike harder to handle? I've never experienced this.

I've used a milk crate and a tail bag on a rack. I've never had a problem while pedaling. But I've had no-hands shimmy. With a really heavy load, before getting on, it sort of wants to pivot down ("fall over" doesn't quite exactly describe it). Both were manageable, not really a problem.

I've also had a decent size front load (in the form of a Thule mini seat) and it definitely changes the steering, so I don't get that description either.

Darth Lefty 01-10-16 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by TheLibrarian (Post 18446545)
It holds my baquettes and cheeses.

And carrots and celery!

This trope goes back a long way and it seems not limited to bicycles; check out Sigourney Weaver's grocery bag in Ghostbusters for example

ISO-Standard Urban Groceries - TV Tropes

wphamilton 01-10-16 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 18448052)
Maybe it's just because my load of clothes and shoes for the workday isn't heavy enough but I'm curious about what all this talk is about rear racks and loads making the bike harder to handle? I've never experienced this.

Ditto that, but I sometimes think about getting a front basket and I'm not sure why which is why I'm watching this thread. Hoping someone will explain it. I'd probably wind up storing my gloves, jacket and backup lights in there.

kickstart 01-10-16 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 18448052)
Maybe it's just because my load of clothes and shoes for the workday isn't heavy enough but I'm curious about what all this talk is about rear racks and loads making the bike harder to handle? I've never experienced this.

The best I can describe it, a front load is easier to control in the way its easier to push a wheelbarrow than it is to pull it, keeping in mind I'm talking about heavy loads and a frame mounted front rack. Heavy loads will always adversely effect a bikes handling, but with the right setup and bike, it will have less effect up front.
A heavy load on a fork or bar mounted carrier will also work well if the bike is designed for it, but most aren't. I have a porteur rack on my Ross MTB, and it works well up to about 15 lbs, but much more than that and it becomes awkward.

kickstart 01-10-16 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by wphamilton (Post 18448554)
Ditto that, but I sometimes think about getting a front basket and I'm not sure why which is why I'm watching this thread. Hoping someone will explain it. I'd probably wind up storing my gloves, jacket and backup lights in there.

In my limited experience, for a road bike, a front basket or rack is best limited to light items for convenience, there's no advantage handling wise, and heavy loads are very akward.

RunningPirate 01-10-16 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 18448052)
Maybe it's just because my load of clothes and shoes for the workday isn't heavy enough but I'm curious about what all this talk is about rear racks and loads making the bike harder to handle? I've never experienced this.

Agreed, clothes, not so much. But clothes + shoes + laptop + lunch, etc... Will add up a bit.

somasanmarcos 01-10-16 04:47 PM

I prefer a front rack/bag because it allows easy access to grab or stow items (sunglasses, gloves, etc) and I am much more likely to notice if anything falls out.

Reynolds 01-10-16 06:33 PM

I like front racks/baskets, but a downside is they interfere with my preferred fork crown light mounting.

bigbenaugust 01-10-16 08:30 PM

I went all crazy once and tried a CETMA on a previous bike. It didn't last long, ruined the handling, but in retrospect perhaps 20+lb on the front was a bit much.

Rollfast 01-10-16 09:08 PM

I'm working on the light problem, I have a Miller generator lighting set for my Schwinn middleweight but I ended up mounting the arm for the headlight sideways on the handlebars instead of the tube. I'll find a picture for you but I'm also adjusting the whole setup and I need a larger front basket.

vol 01-10-16 11:02 PM

Don't loads in the front affect steering? Even my suspension fork alone causes the front wheel to sometimes turn into unwanted directions.


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