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Old 02-27-16, 12:39 PM
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Your insurance against bully drivers = wear a visible camera.

A guy I work with has a camera mounted on his helmet, and it's a great idea. I think it's a great deterrent if people know they're being filmed, less likely to act belligerent. I asked him and he's says it's always recording.

He has a tube type mounted on the left side, but I want to put a big dorky gopro thing on top that shows everyone, if you hit and run me , I may get your plate.
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Old 02-27-16, 02:05 PM
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Bring a whole TV news department film crew. the Big Broadcast quality camera On his shoulder will be hard to ignore..

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Old 02-27-16, 02:53 PM
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I think it's a great idea! Now if only they were cheap enough to be practical....

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Originally Posted by mr geeker View Post
I think it's a great idea! Now if only they were cheap enough to be practical....
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lumi, thats a great idea but I live in the inner city of Chicago. Some folks steal plates to avoid the red light cameras & city stickers. Also, what good does the camera do if the car is stolen??? And if it was a legit plate I have doubts that the police would give a rats tail about some car buzzing my bike.
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Old 02-28-16, 06:27 AM
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Every time I see someone in town with a camera like that on their head it makes me think of the people who walk around with tin foil hats to protect them from Martian brain waves.

Most people already think 'cyclists' are abnormal and silly looking. Don't add to it.
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Old 02-28-16, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by americanlt2 View Post
lumi, thats a great idea but I live in the inner city of Chicago. Some folks steal plates to avoid the red light cameras & city stickers. Also, what good does the camera do if the car is stolen??? And if it was a legit plate I have doubts that the police would give a rats tail about some car buzzing my bike.
Seriously! Some people steal plates? How many do you think do this on any given day and of those people how many are going to buzz cyclists? I am going to let you know a little secret, most people in Chicago don't steal plates and yes the camera can be helpful. Nothing is fool proof, that doesn't mean we don't use any tool that is available to us.
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Old 02-28-16, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CrankyOne View Post
Every time I see someone in town with a camera like that on their head it makes me think of the people who walk around with tin foil hats to protect them from Martian brain waves.

Most people already think 'cyclists' are abnormal and silly looking. Don't add to it.
Right, we should all be on dutch bikes without helmets, in normal clothes and normal shoes is what you are saying? So we don't look "silly" as you put it.
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Old 02-28-16, 09:25 AM
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Thanks for the link. Looks like great, affordable option. One of the reviewer noted that the company was in bankruptcy, though. I'm still tempted to pick on up.
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Old 02-28-16, 09:28 AM
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Thanks for the link. Looks like great, affordable option. One of the reviewer noted that the company was in bankruptcy, though. I'm still tempted to pick on up.
I had one, decided that I never used it so it was sold to a friend. One thing that I liked about this vs a GoPro is the ease of use to turn it on and record. Never found GoPro to be that user friendly once mounted. Slide the switch and record. No checking to see if the red light on the front of the unit was on. You knew right away.
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Old 02-28-16, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mr geeker View Post
I think it's a great idea! Now if only they were cheap enough to be practical....
I've seriously considered mocking one up with a tube and plastic lens and maybe a little red LED. With the advantage that it looks both ways.
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Old 02-28-16, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 View Post
I had one, decided that I never used it so it was sold to a friend. One thing that I liked about this vs a GoPro is the ease of use to turn it on and record. Never found GoPro to be that user friendly once mounted. Slide the switch and record. No checking to see if the red light on the front of the unit was on. You knew right away.
Price alone might be worth a try compared to GP. It looks a lot less cumbersome than the GP too.
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Old 02-28-16, 10:07 AM
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Pretty soon the most popular and effective action camera and traffic record camera will be a 360 type like the Ricoh Thera or Nikon's KeyMission. The costs are already fairly practical, but the resolution may not be good enough yet to record license plates. But the cameras themselves are small and lightweight enough for helmet mounting.

They aren't direction-critical, so the only trick -- besides resolution -- is software and hardware to handle editing to isolate the desired amount of information for display on non-3D devices.

So far the only 360 action oriented videos with the Ricoh Theta I've found by users are from action/practical pistol shooting matches. The resolution is mediocre, but it's fun to scroll around and watch from any desired angle. You can find 'em on YouTube.
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Old 02-28-16, 12:40 PM
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I am going to let you know a little secret, most people in Chicago don't steal plates and yes the camera can be helpful. Nothing is fool proof, that doesn't mean we don't use any tool that is available to us.
Do tell about the little secret. Exactly how effective do you think a visible camera is as "insurance" against so-called bully drivers in Chicago, or anywhere else? And what makes you think so?
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Old 02-28-16, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CrankyOne View Post
Every time I see someone in town with a camera like that on their head it makes me think of the people who walk around with tin foil hats to protect them from Martian brain waves.

Most people already think 'cyclists' are abnormal and silly looking. Don't add to it.
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Old 02-28-16, 01:25 PM
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If your camera is so visible, the first thing a very aggressive person could do is to knock it out, break or rob it.
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If drivers can't see you, how are they going to see a silly little camera?
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Old 02-28-16, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by alan s View Post
If drivers can't see you, how are they going to see a silly little camera?
+1. Most accidents involving a bike are not malicious, they're due to inattentive drivers. A camera might help punish them or hold them accountable, but I don't think it's going to change human behaviour.
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Old 02-28-16, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
A camera might help punish them or hold them accountable, but I don't think it's going to change human behaviour.
Anything is possible, but the likelihood of a bike/helmet portable camera serving any prophylactic purpose, or useful legal or insurance recovery purpose is extremely slight, if that.
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+1 for the Contour. I have it on the left side of the helmet. Not fool proof, it's true, but I figure it might be of assistance if something unfortunate happens.
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Guy in the Side car with a 50 cal ought to do it.
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Old 02-29-16, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 View Post
I had one, decided that I never used it so it was sold to a friend. One thing that I liked about this vs a GoPro is the ease of use to turn it on and record. Never found GoPro to be that user friendly once mounted. Slide the switch and record. No checking to see if the red light on the front of the unit was on. You knew right away.
My GoPro comes on and records by simply pushing the Record button on top only. When I push it again, it shuts off. It's a setting that allows it to operate that way. You can also set it so that only the actual power button turns it on/off and the record button works separately.

And it has 4 red LED lights on different sides of the camera body so that you know it's recording from just about any angle.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
Anything is possible, but the likelihood of a bike/helmet portable camera serving any prophylactic purpose, or useful legal or insurance recovery purpose is extremely slight, if that.
I have seen cases of hit-and-run where the perpetrator was found and prosecuted because of the cyclist's camera footage.

I think hit-and-run is the most useful tool the camera could be used for. Anything else is going to be more superfluous in nature.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Guy in the Side car with a 50 cal ought to do it.
That's a lotta weight...
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