I'm glad someone understood that...

:)

For different reasons my wife and I have seriously considered downsizing to a condo or small townhouse after the kids move out. That's what we lived in before we had kids and I'll be more than happy to get away from home maintenance. It wouldn't prevent a kid from moving back in but bringing along their family just wouldn't work.

My wife has some friends who have their kids sign contracts saying they won't move back in after they've finished school.

Of course none of that means that our kids won't ask for financial help or that we won't feel the desire to offer it.

When I was 22 I remember guys at 65 crushing me on hills.

Good friend of mine is still riding at 83?

My plan is as soon as the kids move out, their rooms become secondary workshops. I'm already building a separate building for a shop, I don't think I could survive in a condo. Where would I put the bridgeport and the CNC mill?

I live part time in The Netherlands. Sometimes it seems like a giant old folks home with all of the old folks riding bikes all over. They ride to meet each other for coffee, to go grocery shopping, to enjoy a ride along a dike on a nice day, and to go to and from work. BTW, I don't consider anyone old folks until they're at least 70.

And, about 70% of bicycle rider fatalities in The Netherlands are people over 65 (and I think something like 50% are over 80). Many of these are heart attacks or strokes so not really a bicycle fatality but it just happens to happen while they happen to be riding. Oh, Dutch live about 3-4 years longer than we do in the U.S.