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bmthom.gis 05-26-16 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 18799290)
I keep mine hanging along one wall in the garage using a Rubbermaid FastTrack system.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7521/1...e1f9d94b_b.jpg

My wife has been OK with this because she had a '68 Charger (the front fender of which you can see in the pic above) filling half the garage. Recently she decided she wanted to get a motorcycle, so I had to find a way to condense my bikes. I added a second level of FastTrack rails and hung the bikes offset, which allows me to fit nearly twice as many. Then she decided to get rid of the Charger and moved her Harley to the other side of the garage so I have my half back. It accelerated the N+1 process dramatically. In the past four months I've gone from 7 to 11 bikes (plus a frame that I'm working on restoring), in addition to my wife's bike and my daughter's bike.

At this point I can't even really claim that they are all serving different purposes unless you count things like different country of origin and different components on the vintage bikes. You should have to sign a release waiver to get into the C&V sub-forum. It's dangerous!

C&V did me in! At one point I was up to 15...down to 10with plans to let some more go at some point. Sell off a few and try and find another really nice C&V. Maybe do a 650B conversion on it.

mcours2006 05-26-16 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 18799312)
I read somewhere that if you have multiple pairs of shoes and rotate them they last longer than the same number of shoes would last if you just wore one pair every day until they wore out and then got a new pair. I'm not clear how that works, but experimentally it seems to be true. Maybe it gives the rubber time to decompress? Anyway, I'm working on the theory that the same thing will work for bike parts. There may be nothing to it, but I feel like it would be irresponsible not to try. ;)

Only problem is that the shoes go out of style before they wear out. Same thing with your bikes. Not out of style, but out-dated, perhaps?

mcours2006 05-26-16 02:36 PM

@Andy_K, and @bmthom.gis

I can totally see how this can quickly get out of hands. I've been exercising good restraint lately, but have given in to buying parts and gruppos I don't really need in anticipation for another bike. I have no idea what kind of bike, just another one.

Andy_K 05-26-16 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by mcours2006 (Post 18799514)
Only problem is that the shoes go out of style before they wear out. Same thing with your bikes. Not out of style, but out-dated, perhaps?

That can be fixed. Here's a pic of my 1984 Pinarello Gran Turismo with 2016 Campagnolo Athena 11-speed components.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1656/2...4c79f73c_b.jpg

mcours2006 05-26-16 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 18799566)
That can be fixed. Here's a pic of my 1984 Pinarello Gran Turismo with 2016 Campagnolo Athena 11-speed components.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1656/2...4c79f73c_b.jpg

Nice!:love:

Andy_K 05-26-16 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by mcours2006 (Post 18799530)
@Andy_K, and @bmthom.gis

I can totally see how this can quickly get out of hands. I've been exercising good restraint lately, but have given in to buying parts and gruppos I don't really need in anticipation for another bike. I have no idea what kind of bike, just another one.

This is pretty much what's been happening to me. I bought the Pinarello, which came with a really nice vintage SunTour group, but I wanted to put Italian parts on it. Then I couldn't just let those nice SunTour components sit on the shelf so I found an old Trek frame to put them on. I upgraded my main commuter recently to a Shimano RS685/Ultegra group, and now I have a totally functional set of Tiagra components looking for a home. I bought a nice vintage Austro-Daimler that somebody had turned into a fixie, but the Tiagra stuff wouldn't look right on it -- it really needs polished silver parts. While I've been looking for those on eBay/CL I keep seeing other things that I have ideas for.

This is why the S-1 addendum to the N+1 rule exists. I don't know what stops single people with lots of garage space.

Walter S 05-26-16 03:10 PM

// Downsize and simplify...
while( n > 1) --n;

mcours2006 05-26-16 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 18799623)
This is pretty much what's been happening to me. I bought the Pinarello, which came with a really nice vintage SunTour group, but I wanted to put Italian parts on it. Then I couldn't just let those nice SunTour components sit on the shelf so I found an old Trek frame to put them on. I upgraded my main commuter recently to a Shimano RS685/Ultegra group, and now I have a totally functional set of Tiagra components looking for a home. I bought a nice vintage Austro-Daimler that somebody had turned into a fixie, but the Tiagra stuff wouldn't look right on it -- it really needs polished silver parts. While I've been looking for those on eBay/CL I keep seeing other things that I have ideas for.

This is why the S-1 addendum to the N+1 rule exists. I don't know what stops single people with lots of garage space.

And of course, selling the extra parts/groupsets is completely absurd.:) IKR.

mcours2006 05-26-16 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Walter S (Post 18799647)
// Downsize and simplify...
while( n > 1) --n;

Carefully there. You're liable to get yourself banned with blasphemous talk like that.;)

cyccommute 05-26-16 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by tarwheel (Post 18798121)
I'm a big fan of n+1 commuting. Although I have a couple of bikes that I commute on most frequently, I ride all of them to work on occasion. Riding to work nearly every day can get boring when your routes are limited, and taking different bikes is a nice way to mix it up and add some spice. When I ride my Italian racer (De Bernardi), I average about 1-2 mph faster than my touring bikes. Sometimes I have to carry a lot of clothes, gear, food, etc., to work, and I ride one of my touring bikes with the panniers loaded up. I ride one of the fendered bikes on days when the roads are wet or rain is more likely, but on dry days I typically ride on of my faster, lighter bikes with no fenders. I commute on the Bob Jackson and Waterford most frequently, followed by the Ritchey, Soma and De Bernardi.

But they are all the same bike. Where's the spice? Where's the variety?

This is variety

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps46f9735b.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps3687ee98.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...pse3b2b3d0.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps866274e5.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps47jrswgl.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMGP2566.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMGP2568.jpg

And even I'd say that's a little redundant. The Moots serves as my winter studded tire bike. The Epic and the Dean see limited service as commuter bikes but I do occasionally ride them to work and take different routes home. The Epic goes over the mountain behind my work and the Dean goes around the mountain on the other side of the valley from work. The Moots and Rockhopper get used off-road on the trails along the creek on my route in as well as going over the mountain.

The silver and blue one is for style

Andy_K 05-26-16 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 18799725)
But they are all the same bike. Where's the spice? Where's the variety?

All the same bike? What do you mean?

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1602/2...c6bf90b1_c.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7579/2...f989c982_c.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1451/2...33a7f609_c.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2854/1...fdc0afa7_c.jpg

:innocent:

Darth Lefty 05-26-16 04:26 PM

For what it's worth, I have not yet figured out a way to take the tandem on my commute without looking foolish.

Jim from Boston 05-26-16 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by mcours2006 (Post 18798391)
What's with the NDS pics, Jim?

Love the Hum-V, but would like to see disc brakes on it.

Now that I know what non-drive side is, the bikes were not posed. As a right-hander, I walk my bike from the left side forward, so that’s how I lean it up against a wall. The Lamborghini shot was outside a favorite rest stop, and the Humvee was shot to show the (single) Ortlieb pannier that I wear on the left side

BTW, though I do not read the C&V Forum, this morning I noted a thread, ”How to Photograph a Bike.”

RubeRad 05-26-16 04:53 PM

I'm not sure how to do N+1 commuting, except maybe to steal a neighbor's bike and ride that in.

I always commute with N bikes.

(For values of N equal to 1)

http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/...ps88ac6d0b.jpg

Actually, that's not quite true, very occasionally I ride my hardtail to work, if I'm planning on a trail ride at lunchtime or on the way home.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=489913


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