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Daniel4 06-04-16 03:10 PM

I generally like riding in the rain. No pedestrians in the MUPs.

During my first spring commute, I was caught in a thunderstorm going home c/w lightening (June 2014). When I got home I jumped straight into the shower. When I got out, my wife told me the roof was leaking and rain was dripping on to the stove. The news the next morning was that a golfer had been struck by lightning but he was saved by another golfer who was a nurse.

scoatw 06-05-16 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by mister (Post 18818239)
I've tried a couple sets of fenders from SKS. The problem is I can't find ones that fit on the forks since I don't have eyelets and the blades aren't shaped normally. I just picked up some for next fall/ winter that I will try. Most of the LBS around here cater to the MTB crowd for fenders and the road fenders they do have clamp onto the seat post. Internet returns are not my favorite.

No eyelets, no problem. http://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/...t-cf-fork.html

wphamilton 06-05-16 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Kindaslow (Post 18820333)
"Wet roads are as slick as ice"

"From 32-39 riding in the rain is a hypothermia ..."

Wet roads provide about 90% of the traction of dry roads (according to motorcycle research). So, unless your commute like ride the Tour, you are fine. Just watch out for ground that has a funny shine or looks a different color (oil or gas).....

But avoid painted lines, because they can be slick as ice. Also wet leaves. And wet boardwalk. In my own experience I'm much more likely to fall during inclement weather for one reason or another, so my policy is take it easy.

Kindaslow 06-05-16 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by wphamilton (Post 18822140)
But avoid painted lines, because they can be slick as ice. Also wet leaves. And wet boardwalk. In my own experience I'm much more likely to fall during inclement weather for one reason or another, so my policy is take it easy.

The painted lines seem fine, if you are going straight with them or straight across them, otherwise much caution is needed. Leaves have always been interesting to me. There are a ton of wet leaves here for a couple of weeks each year and sometimes they feel very slick and other times not, so I always slow down. No boardwalks in my area, except MTBing, and they are much less intimidating on a MTB.

wphamilton 06-05-16 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Kindaslow;18822291[B
]The painted lines seem fine, if you are going straight with them or straight across them, otherwise much caution is needed.[/B] Leaves have always been interesting to me. There are a ton of wet leaves here for a couple of weeks each year and sometimes they feel very slick and other times not, so I always slow down. No boardwalks in my area, except MTBing, and they are much less intimidating on a MTB.

Most of the time they're fine, but you'll probably agree that you can't take them for granted when wet. Motorcyclists are even more paranoid about them than we are.

What makes leaves slick, IMO, is decaying matter between the leaves. That's why just one layer of leaves is no big deal, and it's leaves that have been there a day or few days that you really have to watch out for.

long john 06-05-16 06:12 PM

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andyprough 06-05-16 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by long john (Post 18823105)

Why stop there? Get an ELF

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GovernorSilver 06-05-16 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Kindaslow (Post 18820333)
"Wet roads are as slick as ice"

I was talking about oil spots and other stuff on wet roads, not every single millimeter of all wet roads. Perhaps you missed this part of my post:

You never know when some random oil spot on the road can cause your bike to wipe out under you

I'm sure most people understood that but just in case...

Kindaslow 06-05-16 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by GovernorSilver (Post 18823283)
I was talking about oil spots and other stuff on wet roads, not every single millimeter of all wet roads. Perhaps you missed this part of my post:

You never know when some random oil spot on the road can cause your bike to wipe out under you

I'm sure most people understood that but just in case...

You, and a lot of folks, imply that riding in the rain is extremely dangerous. Like random oil spots are just waiting to jump out and attack. A whole bunch of us in the Seattle and Portland area seem to somehow survive the madness, though. I am sure,though, that most people understand that.....

GovernorSilver 06-05-16 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Kindaslow (Post 18823415)
You, and a lot of folks, imply that riding in the rain is extremely dangerous. Like random oil spots are just waiting to jump out and attack. A whole bunch of us in the Seattle and Portland area seem to somehow survive the madness, though. I am sure,though, that most people understand that.....

No, you're being melodramatic, by putting the "extremely" in there.

I have a deep cut over my eye and various other bruises after falling due to some kind of slippery spot on a wet road this past Friday. I'm just saying I learned to be more careful riding in the rain, that's all.

Kindaslow 06-05-16 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by GovernorSilver (Post 18823439)
No, you're just trying to pick a fight.

Ironic because i'm the one who has a deep cut over my eye and various other bruises after falling due to some kind of slipper spot on a wet road this past Friday.

I am sorry to hear that you got injured, truly.

i believe if you read your post in which you quoted me, you could see you started the sarcasm. I just made the choice to continue it. I do not want a fight, but I also do not want the world believing wet roads are profoundly dangerous. Those beliefs can lead to people riding in fear and over reacting when little things occur. Wet roads need to be respected, but are not all that much different than dry roads (except a first rain after a long dry spell).

GovernorSilver 06-05-16 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by Kindaslow (Post 18823454)
I am sorry to hear that you got injured, truly.

i believe if you read your post in which you quoted me, you could see you started the sarcasm. I just made the choice to continue it. I do not want a fight, but I also do not want the world believing wet roads are profoundly dangerous. Those beliefs can lead to people riding in fear and over reacting when little things occur. Wet roads need to be respected, but are not all that much different than dry roads (except a first rain after a long dry spell).

There's no sarcasm intended by me.

All I meant was that riding on an oil spot on a wet road is like riding on ice. You somehow blew that out of proportion. Everybody knows what I really said - it's all documented in this thread. I can't be held responsible for what others make up in their heads.

I'm going to goddam commute this week despite my injuries. If I really thought riding was profoundly dangerous like you say, I wouldn't ride anymore.

Kindaslow 06-05-16 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by GovernorSilver (Post 18823463)
There's no sarcasm intended by me.

All I meant was that riding on an oil spot on a wet road is like riding on ice. You somehow blew that out of proportion.

I'm going to goddam commute this week despite my injuries. If I really thought riding was profoundly dangerous like you say, I wouldn't ride anymore. How about you stop making up stuff.

It appears that you want a fight, and I do not. Re-read this in a week, I think you will read it differently. If you want to continue the discussion, please PM me.

Good luck with your commute.

GovernorSilver 06-05-16 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Kindaslow (Post 18823469)
It appears that you want a fight, and I do not. Re-read this in a week, I think you will read it differently. If you want to continue the discussion, please PM me.

Good luck with your commute.

I didn't want a fight. Who picked a fight with whom is self-evident in this thread. Where did I ever say don't ride in the rain because of oil spots? You made that up.

andyprough 06-05-16 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by GovernorSilver (Post 18823474)
I didn't want a fight. Who picked a fight with whom is self-evident in this thread. Where did I ever say don't ride in the rain because of oil spots? You made that up.

Google maps took me on a "bike route" on Saturday which was nothing more than a barely discernible tire track for half a mile through an overgrown, muddy pasture. I looked at it and thought, "nope", but then decided to try it anyway. First thing I did was wipe out on the muddy track and take a spill into the grass beside it. Turns out that the field was using the mud bike track as a kind of a drainage ditch and a steady stream of water was running right beneath the surface of the mud, and I had zero traction.

Kind of fun though. I did the rest of the path at about 3 miles an hour, riding the brake the whole way. My poor tires were spitting off globs of mud for the next 5 miles once I hit the asphalt again.

Ended up finding a beautiful little lake right in the middle of Dallas at the end of the bike trail. White Rock Lake. Beautiful place with 9 1/2 miles of hardtop bike trails all around the shore:

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no motor? 06-06-16 11:55 AM

I found out Saturday during the ride home that a windvest doesn't do much for you when it's raining.

mister 06-08-16 01:20 PM

While I don't much like commuting in the rain, there is an incredible sense of badassness that comes with riding in a downpour when everyone is shaking their heads. Some of my biggest smiles did occur on these types of rides. Fenders or not!

79pmooney 06-08-16 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by mrchaotica (Post 18811053)
Rain is fine, but the day I decided to ride home in a downpour so heavy that the roads flooded up to the bottom bracket was a little much (mainly because I felt the need to re-grease it afterwards).

My first "real" (non-club) race was 105 miles in a rain that started the evening before. Solid rain. We had nothing dry at two hours, nothing. Riding beside a river, we all had the same thought. We could swerve to the right and not get any wetter. After the race, we discussed what tires tasted best. And every bush in the park at the finish had at least two cyclists behind emptying their bladders.

My bottom bracket had no grease at all after. Except for the rust, clean as a whistle.

Ben

Kindaslow 06-08-16 05:45 PM

Going hiking in the rain, I hope the ground isn't to slick.....;)

rhm 06-09-16 08:07 AM

My five mile ride to the train station is long enough for me to get thoroughly drenched if it's raining hard enough, and while I don't really mind that, sitting on a commuter train for an hour in sopping wet clothes, especially if the air conditioning is going, is no fun at all. I have tried a lot of different rain gear solutions, and have never found one that really works. I pretty much try to avoid it now.

On the way home, I don't mind. I get wet... then I get home... no big deal.

Kindaslow 06-09-16 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 18831985)
My five mile ride to the train station is long enough for me to get thoroughly drenched if it's raining hard enough, and while I don't really mind that, sitting on a commuter train for an hour in sopping wet clothes, especially if the air conditioning is going, is no fun at all. I have tried a lot of different rain gear solutions, and have never found one that really works. I pretty much try to avoid it now.

On the way home, I don't mind. I get wet... then I get home... no big deal.

Where (on your body) and how(does the rain get in) when you are riding in rain gear?

i ride a lot in the rain, and I virtually never get wet from the rain. My commute has intense hills, so sometimes I get pretty sweaty. Also, I MTB a lot in the rain, and mostly get sweaty, not wet from the rain.

rhm 06-09-16 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Kindaslow (Post 18832053)
Where (on your body) and how(does the rain get in) when you are riding in rain gear?...

It's not really a matter of rain getting through or around the gear. The problem occurs when I get to my bike locker at the train station; I put the bike in the locker, and now I'm standing in the parking lot by the train station, wearing all my rain gear. Now what should I do?
1. I could take the rain gear off at the locker, in the rain, and put the wet rain gear in the locker with the bike, and hope it somehow dries off by the time I get back, some nine or ten hours later; grab my umbrella and get on the train. Not a good option if it's really raining, because I get wet before I get on the train.
2. I could get on the train in all my rain gear, and take it off on the train, and hang it from the luggage rack on the train and let it dry there.
3. The hybrid option: put plastic grocery bags over my shoes, tuck the tops of the bags into the bottom of the rain pants. At the locker, I put the rain pants over the handlebar of the bike to drip dry, and I get on the train in my rain jacket and plastic bags still on my shoes. I discard the plastic bags on the train. This is what I usually do if it's raining really hard.
4. I could take an umbrella from the locker, go inside the train station, take off my rain gear there, dry it there, fold it up and put it in a bag of some kind, then walk back to the bike locker under the umbrella, put the rain gear in the locker, and then get on the train. I never do this.
5. I could just say to heck with it, it's not raining that hard, I'll just ride in the rain and get on the train a little wet. I do this pretty often.
6. I could just stay home. I think I've done this twice this calendar year; not too bad, I think.

Kindaslow 06-09-16 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 18832121)
It's not really a matter of rain getting through or around the gear. The problem occurs when I get to my bike locker at the train station; I put the bike in the locker, and now I'm standing in the parking lot by the train station, wearing all my rain gear. Now what should I do?
1. I could take the rain gear off at the locker, in the rain, and put the wet rain gear in the locker with the bike, and hope it somehow dries off by the time I get back, some nine or ten hours later; grab my umbrella and get on the train.
2. I could get on the train in all my rain gear, and take it off on the train, and hang it from the luggage rack on the train and let it dry there.
3. I could take an umbrella from the locker, go inside the train station, take off my rain gear there, dry it there, fold it up and put it in a bag of some kind, then walk back to the bike locker under the umbrella, put the rain gear in the locker, and then get on the train.
4. I could just say to heck with it, it's not raining that hard, I'll just ride in the rain and get on the train a little wet.
5. I could just stay home.

Got it!

is the locker big enough to hang the clothes away from the bike? Are you the only person using the locker (so you could leave some stuff in it, like an umbrella)?

Sounds like interesting challenges to solve.

rhm 06-09-16 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Kindaslow (Post 18832143)
Got it!

is the locker big enough to hang the clothes away from the bike? Are you the only person using the locker (so you could leave some stuff in it, like an umbrella)?

Sounds like interesting challenges to solve.

The locker is a triangular space -- that is, a long rectangle with a door on both ends, and a plywood partition that runs through it on the diagonal. Bike goes in rear wheel first, so the front wheel is right up against the door, with the handlebar a little farther back. So yes, I can put my rain pants over the handlebar. Come to think of it, I'm going to edit my list -- I forgot the 'hybrid' option.

It's pretty nice! I've had this locker for fifteen years now, and really my only complaint is that it's not under a roof of any kind. Long ago I put a hook on the plywood partition, from which I hang an umbrella; and there's a milk crate into which I toss my helmet. I used to keep a jacket in there, too.

wphamilton 06-09-16 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 18832121)
It's not really a matter of rain getting through or around the gear. The problem occurs when I get to my bike locker at the train station; I put the bike in the locker, and now I'm standing in the parking lot by the train station, wearing all my rain gear. Now what should I do?
1. I could take the rain gear off at the locker, in the rain, and put the wet rain gear in the locker with the bike, and hope it somehow dries off by the time I get back, some nine or ten hours later; grab my umbrella and get on the train.
2. I could get on the train in all my rain gear, and take it off on the train, and hang it from the luggage rack on the train and let it dry there.
3. I could take an umbrella from the locker, go inside the train station, take off my rain gear there, dry it there, fold it up and put it in a bag of some kind, then walk back to the bike locker under the umbrella, put the rain gear in the locker, and then get on the train.
4. I could just say to heck with it, it's not raining that hard, I'll just ride in the rain and get on the train a little wet.
5. I could just stay home.

It sounds like you're wearing regular clothes for the ride, with a lot of rain gear to keep them dry? I'd be tempted to change into work clothes at the station and leave everything else there. You don't need quite as robust rain gear that way. But if not have you considered rolling the rain gear up in a bath towel? Everything gets to about the same level of damp, but not really wet.

rhm 06-09-16 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by wphamilton (Post 18832200)
It sounds like you're wearing regular clothes for the ride, with a lot of rain gear to keep them dry? I'd be tempted to change into work clothes at the station and leave everything else there. You don't need quite as robust rain gear that way. But if not have you considered rolling the rain gear up in a bath towel? Everything gets to about the same level of damp, but not really wet.

Yes... that is a good solution. I should add, though, I don't have to dress up for my job. I'm not wearing a business suit or anything like it. If I get to my office a little wet and a little rumpled, that's fine.

What we all take away from most of these threads, I think, is the variety of solutions we bike commuters adopt. My commute appears to be pretty much unique, like my job, and like my bikes. I've been doing this long enough to know the best solution to the problem, sometimes, is to just ignore the problem entirely. What? It's raining? Oh, yes, look at that! That explains all the water.

PatrickGSR94 06-09-16 11:45 AM

A few weeks ago I had a nice tailwind on my commute home. Then about 4 miles out the wind suddenly shifted to a head/cross wind, temperature dropped rapidly, and a sudden thunderstorm with pea-size hail came up. It was all super sudden. That hail stung! I normally like riding in the rain on a hot day, but that time it just sucked.

Walking barefoot in the rain outside is also awesome. Bare feet dry WAYYY quicker than do wet socks and shoes. Sometimes I wish I could be barefoot on the bike, if I didn't want to be attached to the pedals. ;)

mrchaotica 06-09-16 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94 (Post 18832664)
Walking barefoot in the rain outside is also awesome. Bare feet dry WAYYY quicker than do wet socks and shoes. Sometimes I wish I could be barefoot on the bike, if I didn't want to be attached to the pedals. ;)

SPD sandals. I just got a pair (of the cheap Nashbar variety) and they're great! :thumb:

PatrickGSR94 06-09-16 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by mrchaotica (Post 18832690)
SPD sandals. I just got a pair (of the cheap Nashbar variety) and they're great! :thumb:

Yeah I know, I just don't really care for how most of them look.

ret3 06-13-16 11:42 AM

I too, to the amazement of many, enjoy the occasional rainy ride home in Austin. I use a rain cape, gaiters, and waterproof shoes to keep dry on the ride toward the office, though.


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