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Old 08-17-16, 03:46 PM
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Need guidance on finding a CDX belt IGH carbon fiber bike

I admit I am in love with the look of the vanhawks valour bike.
It is carbon fiber, IGH, carbon belt, and looks beautiful.

However, I feel like I could find something that ticks all the boxes and weighs less than the vanhawks.

Does anyone know a bike that has:
-internal cabling inside the frame
-IGH
-CDX belt (CDX is the best gates from what I read)
-Integrated light built into the handle bars preferred but not required
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I suppose you could have one built on the opposite corner of the nation by the shop that builds boatloads of these.
Rohloff Bicycles, from Rodriguez Custom Bicycles in Seattle

The crew at R+E are a joy to work with. In the past four years, I've had them repair a quarter-century old tandem frame, build me a coupled tandem (awesome bike), repair that coupled tandem when we had a damaged chain yank the derailleur, hanger and sundries around and totally re-make two thirty-five year old Trek 720 frames to better suit us. They really work with their customers to get it right.

It's a long ways from home for you and their bikes aren't exactly stock-bike cheap, but they're not very expensive for a custom frame. They keep the prices down by using some ingenious machines that they have created to make custom frames almost as simple as just building stock models.
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Good luck with that. Perhaps you missed the part on Kickstarter about it being the "first ever". That means there aren't any others like it.

As for mass, the NuVinci hub alone is 4100g, about nine pounds. For the hub. Alone. Before spokes and the rim and the disc brake rotor and the gear, let alone the tire, tube and rim strip.

Easiest way to strip weight then, becomes not the frame, but the IGH. Shimano's Alfine 11-speed is 40% of the weight at 1680g.

A three-speed Nexus is "only" 1120g or about a quarter of the weight of the NuVinci. Three speeds is two more than many need in South Florida.

The reason I put the word, only, in scare quotes is because in the segment of the community that typically buys carbon fiber bikes, 1120g is considered overweight for an entire wheelset (yes, both ends), let alone a single hub.

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Originally Posted by B. Carfree View Post
I suppose you could have one built on the opposite corner of the nation by the shop that builds boatloads of these.
Rohloff Bicycles, from Rodriguez Custom Bicycles in Seattle

The crew at R+E are a joy to work with. In the past four years, I've had them repair a quarter-century old tandem frame, build me a coupled tandem (awesome bike), repair that coupled tandem when we had a damaged chain yank the derailleur, hanger and sundries around and totally re-make two thirty-five year old Trek 720 frames to better suit us. They really work with their customers to get it right.

It's a long ways from home for you and their bikes aren't exactly stock-bike cheap, but they're not very expensive for a custom frame. They keep the prices down by using some ingenious machines that they have created to make custom frames almost as simple as just building stock models.
Thank you. I sent them an email.
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Good luck with that. Perhaps you missed the part on Kickstarter about it being the "first ever". That means there aren't any others like it.

As for mass, the NuVinci hub alone is 4100g, about nine pounds. For the hub. Alone. Before spokes and the rim and the disc brake rotor and the gear, let alone the tire, tube and rim strip.

Easiest way to strip weight then, becomes not the frame, but the IGH. Shimano's Alfine 11-speed is 40% of the weight at 1680g.

A three-speed Nexus is "only" 1120g or about a quarter of the weight of the NuVinci. Three speeds is two more than many need in South Florida.

The reason I put the word, only, in scare quotes is because in the segment of the community that typically buys carbon fiber bikes, 1120g is considered overweight for an entire wheelset (yes, both ends), let alone a single hub.
True, I did read about it being the first ever. But I just assumed they were talking about the gadgets which I don't need.
I am wanting to keep my future bike under 20lbs. I may be forced to use rohloff.
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As much as I admire pushing the limits, it seems to me that that the OP's stated goals are a bit of a mismatch: Rohloff + carbon + extreme lightness. I am with others' advice to consult a custom builder, consider alternative IGH etc. I have a 23 # belt drive Alfine 11 and at the end of the day, it's the feel and fit of the commuter that matter, not the #. If I had the $$ right now, I would pop for a custom titanium belt drive 3 speed and integrate commuter-focused details to perfect the experience (but obviously this is a dream built for one :-)
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Originally Posted by B. Carfree View Post
I suppose you could have one built on the opposite corner of the nation by the shop that builds boatloads of these.
Rohloff Bicycles, from Rodriguez Custom Bicycles in Seattle

The crew at R+E are a joy to work with. In the past four years, I've had them repair a quarter-century old tandem frame, build me a coupled tandem (awesome bike), repair that coupled tandem when we had a damaged chain yank the derailleur, hanger and sundries around and totally re-make two thirty-five year old Trek 720 frames to better suit us. They really work with their customers to get it right.

It's a long ways from home for you and their bikes aren't exactly stock-bike cheap, but they're not very expensive for a custom frame. They keep the prices down by using some ingenious machines that they have created to make custom frames almost as simple as just building stock models.
I contacted them and it seems they don't build carbon fiber bikes. The search continues.
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If you want to stay under 20 pounds you need to ditch the IGH. The frame isn't really contributing that much to the overall weight.
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