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Old 12-07-16, 04:52 PM
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Commuters bike lane shaming thread!!!

Feel free to post YOUR pictures and videos of those who feel entitled to use the bike lane as their personal parking spot.

Taken today while doing some bike delivery on campus. Best part? Partially blocking the crosswalk in front of it as well. I guess that bright yellow sign with the arrow is invisible.

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Old 12-07-16, 04:58 PM
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You should send that picture to the local Postmaster
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Delivery drivers have it tough. Just go around (especially if you want Santa to come).
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Looking at that picture a couple of times, where would you have parked if you were the driver? Are you implying he should have parked in the middle of the driving lane?
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbob View Post
Looking at that picture a couple of times, where would you have parked if you were the driver? Are you implying he should have parked in the middle of the driving lane?
How about the parking lot visible in the background? And I bet the building even has a loading dock and/or service entrance somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbob View Post
Looking at that picture a couple of times, where would you have parked if you were the driver? Are you implying he should have parked in the middle of the driving lane?
It depends on what the driver is doing. A smaller vehicle could pull into a driveway and a parking lot.

Then one has the next "shame" photos when the only parking lots open are the handicapped lots (especially able to handle oversized vehicles).
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Originally Posted by KD5NRH View Post
How about the parking lot visible in the background? And I bet the building even has a loading dock and/or service entrance somewhere.
Parking lot is card entry, but the buildings do have loading docks.
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Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost View Post
Delivery drivers have it tough. Just go around (especially if you want Santa to come).
No stopping, standing or parking in the bike lanes here. I did go around, but since I am on a bike, and there is a bike lane, I should be able to use it.
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Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 View Post
Parking lot is card entry, but the buildings do have loading docks.
So...
Around here the PO won't deal with closed gates (in Mom's case, reaching out and pushing a button during daytime when it is unlocked).

Just tell the customers that they have to pick up their packages or mail at the post office until they figure out how to get the delivery truck legally inside of a gate. A loading zone parking spot might be nice too.

It wouldn't take much to design a programmable master smart-card. Each entry code independent. Lose the master card, and instantly reprogram all security systems.
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The sense of entitlement some people feel about bike lanes is the best argument against them.

Do you think that a car forum would have a thread about shaming delivery drivers who stop blocking a lane so they have to go around?

Life isn't perfect and we all have to make do. If having to go around a stopped truck is the worst thing in your day, you're having a great day.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
The sense of entitlement some people feel about bike lanes is the best argument against them.

Do you think that a car forum would have a thread about shaming delivery drivers who stop blocking a lane so they have to go around?

Life isn't perfect and we all have to make do. If having to go around a stopped truck is the worst thing in your day, you're having a great day.
Nobody likes people double parking, especially on busy streets. Not even car drivers. I suppose there are places that have delivery zone parking spots (which are often empty, and thus reducing the parking for those who are actually needing to park).

But, yes, the above photo is a low traffic area, probably less of a hassle for bikes to get around that mail truck than for cars to get around it.

Still, options should be considered, and blocking a bike lane should be consider just like blocking a car lane.

Actually, I find construction signs placed in bike lanes to be the most annoying. Yet, I also realize that there may not always be better places to place them. Nonetheless... look for alternatives first.
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Nobody likes people double parking, especially on busy streets. Not even car drivers. I suppose there are places that have delivery zone parking spots (which are often empty, and thus reducing the parking for those who are actually needing to park).....
There are two lane roads with minimal shoulders all over the country. Trucks making deliveries stop to the side of these, blocking or partly blocking lanes, and nobody says boo. They simply go around.

Bike lanes, road markings, and all the like are all good, but unfortunately reality intrudes from time to time, and part of living is learning to accept and adapt to minor (and this is extremely minor) inconveniences, and move on with life.

When I read these threads like these, I'm reminded of motorists who think they own the road, and bicycles don't belong. It reminds me that under the (thin) skin, we're all alike.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
It depends on what the driver is doing. A smaller vehicle could pull into a driveway and a parking lot.

Then one has the next "shame" photos when the only parking lots open are the handicapped lots (especially able to handle oversized vehicles).
The entire front of the arena at Oregon State University is handicapped parking, for good reason since this is the only close in parking. While making a delivery there one summer day, I was faced with the choice of parking in a few of the many handicapped places with my semi, parking in a nearby bike lane (legal for delivery vehicles in Oregon), which I didn't want to do since it would create a hazard, or parking a quarter mile away with my delivery of ice. I stopped in the handicapped spots to assess the situation and a parking enforcement person came by. We chatted and he told me that OSU has a firm policy that would require him to cite me if I unloaded from the handicapped spots, even though there were about a hundred of them empty and I would be taking five. So, I parked in the nearby bike lane.

It still annoys me that there was no system for them to receive deliveries. As I left, a Sysco truck pulled into the bike lane behind me to make his delivery.
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There are two lane roads with minimal shoulders all over the country. Trucks making deliveries stop to the side of these, blocking or partly blocking lanes, and nobody says boo. They simply go around.

Bike lanes, road markings, and all the like are all good, but unfortunately reality intrudes from time to time, and part of living is learning to accept and adapt to minor (and this is extremely minor) inconveniences, and move on with life.

When I read these threads like these, I'm reminded of motorists who think they own the road, and bicycles don't belong. It reminds me that under the (thin) skin, we're all alike.
I suppose you're right.

They're just marks on the road designed to make personal and vehicle interactions safer. Nobody really owns one part of the road or another part of the road. It is shared use piece of asphalt to make our lives easier.

I suppose we just have too many "rules" that are built into society. Park here, don't park there. Pass here, don't pass there. Stay Right. Stay Left. Stop Here. Go slower. Go faster. Oh, and even defining what a "stop" is. Some make a difference, some don't.

And here, it just comes down to some paint on asphalt... with the postal worker or UPS delivery person just doing their jobs, and using the roads just like everyone else.
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Bike lanes aren't exclusive here in parts of Fort Worth and surrounding cities. I checked with the city of Benbrook about that a few months ago when I encountered many cars parked in the bike lanes. They were sympathetic but said it's not illegal. They couldn't even do anything about the guy driving the wrong way, toward me and traffic, *in the bike lane*, even though I had it on video.

So I just modified my riding style on those roads -- when I see cars parked in the bike lane ahead I merge into the main lane much sooner and take the lane, after I'd experienced a few brush-by passes at high speed when I tried to stay closer to the bike lane and waited longer to merge into the main road. I used to wait until I was within 25 yards or so of the parked car, but now I merge into the main road at least 100 yards before I need to, just to establish myself in the lane. If a driver feels the need to pass me he/she will need to cross over to the oncoming traffic lane. In actual practice it hasn't caused any problems so far. Most drivers are pretty courteous about cyclists as long as we're predictable and clear in our intentions.
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... Best part? Partially blocking the crosswalk in front of it as well. ...
Judging by the shadows, the crosswalk is either completely clear, or very nearly completely clear. Anyway, I really doubt that truck was there for more than a couple minutes.
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It's a violation that most people treat in a blasé way.
I for one don't want to see a young person have to veer into traffic and risk their life when they don't have to.
...and I don't like to see people make excuses for people that put children's lives more at risk for their convenience.
It's supposed to a be safer way to go all the time.
And the people who make excuses are part of the problem.
How is it to become normalized when even cyclists poo poo it.
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Yup. And it's one of the reasons why there's an Advocacy and Safety forum, and the extreme positions people take, as shown here, are one of the reasons most Bike Forums members, even those who feel strongly about advocacy and safety issues, avoid that forum. We live in an imperfect world. Let's just assume we're all doing the best we can.
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Yes...some people just "throw up their hands" and leave it to "someone else".
..and then admonish "someone else" ...so they don't have to think about it
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I encounter stopped/parked vehicles on bike lanes all the time. I don't think twice about them; I make sure it's safe and I go around them. If I got upset every time I encountered a stopped vehicle in the bike lane I would be quite unhappy arriving at my destination.

I'm more upset at vehicles that are moving that do unpredictable and stupid things than parked ones.
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Here is a picture I took in Oct along S Broadway in STL. School bus parked half in traffic lane, and blocking entire bike lane. The kicker - the driver was getting out to go to Hardee's. And, there's a huge strip plaza right next door that had plenty of open parking. I took a couple of more pictures showing the license plate clearly and sent them to the SLPS superintendent and the bus operator, but never heard anything.
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My town thought it best to install its first bike lanes on a couple of residential streets. Residential. With HUNDREDS of driveways and people who have always parked cars along the curbs in front of their houses. But now there are bike lanes there.

I personally am not a huge fan of most bike lanes. Some places they make sense, but other places not. So since there are now bike lanes on these residential streets, parking along the curb would be a violation. I have said on the city's Facebook page that I will be reporting people parking in the bike lane. Why? Normally I don't get worked up about a car in the bike lane, I just go around. But in this case, if there are multiple cars parked in the bike lanes, I will be using the travel lane. And in my experience, I'm far more likely to get harassed on a road with a bike lane that I choose not to use. So if I therefore receive harassment for using the travel lane (I've never been harassed on these roads before the bike lanes), then you better believe I will be reporting all people who park in the bike lanes.
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Feel free to post YOUR pictures and videos of those who feel entitled to use the bike lane as their personal parking spot.
Let me get this straight. When I encounter someone parked in a bike lane, you want me to:

1. Stop
2. Take out my phone
3. Activate the camera
4. Take a picture or video
5. Host the picture/video somewhere so I can post it
6. Access my browser
7. Go to Bike Forums
8. Sign in
9. Find this thread
10. Post the picture or video, to "shame" the offending driver(who will almost certainly never know that he has been shamed)

No thanks. I'll just go around.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
There are two lane roads with minimal shoulders all over the country. Trucks making deliveries stop to the side of these, blocking or partly blocking lanes, and nobody says boo. They simply go around.

Bike lanes, road markings, and all the like are all good, but unfortunately reality intrudes from time to time, and part of living is learning to accept and adapt to minor (and this is extremely minor) inconveniences, and move on with life.

When I read these threads like these, I'm reminded of motorists who think they own the road, and bicycles don't belong. It reminds me that under the (thin) skin, we're all alike.
I don't own the bike lane, yet I am expected to use it when it is there. The campus police have posted reminders on their Twitter that cyclists should use the bike lane. Hey, I am alright with that as expected since I am a cyclist. This situation is extremely common on campus. The bike lane isn't for parking/stopping, it is a space for cyclists to ride without affecting traffic.

I can easily go around that truck, but the truck shouldn't be there in the first place. Nothing should.
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Let me get this straight. When I encounter someone parked in a bike lane, you want me to:

1. Stop
2. Take out my phone
3. Activate the camera
4. Take a picture or video
5. Host the picture/video somewhere so I can post it
6. Access my browser
7. Go to Bike Forums
8. Sign in
9. Find this thread
10. Post the picture or video, to "shame" the offending driver(who will almost certainly never know that he has been shamed)

No thanks. I'll just go around.
If you want to, sure. You took the time to post in the thread so why not? It didn't take me much time to make the post, maybe a few minutes in total. Had to wait to go around the truck because not shown in the picture, were a few cars that passed us.
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