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Old 03-17-17, 07:29 PM   #1
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Moving to Portland

Hi all,

I'll probably be moving to Portland in August or September, working at PSU. I'm looking for places to live that will provide a decent but not too long bike commute (30-60 minutes or so, with hills if possible).

From the map, it looks as if most of the hills are distressingly far away. I'm currently in the Los Angeles foothills and love my 1000' of vertical every day.

Low traffic is also a priority.

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I live in Portland and the only way you will even come close to that elevation is if you live in SW Portland in Multnomah Village or neighborhoods in that area. Your commute would be about 20-30 on the way to PSU since it's all downhill. The way home, well a little longer but if you're use to an elevation gain of 1k, it'll be nothing. Anywhere on the east side is a no go for you since there are hardly any hills, more like minor speed bumps.
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Which one? There are at least 22 in the US, and many more around the world.
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Around here (BF) when folks say Portland, they usually mean THE Portland, namely the one in Oregon.

There's also the PSU clue, which it isn't hard to make out as Portland State University, of which it seems there is only one.

But, I get the question. Years ago, and Italian vendor was flying into Portland to meet another client, then planning to drive down to NYC to see me. Unfortunately, his travel agent booked his flight to the wrong Portland.
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Portland, Maine was founded on July 4, 1786. Portland, Oregon, the relative newcomer, on February 8, 1851. Based on that, I'd say THE Portland is in Maine, at least in the US. Portland, England is quite a bit older.
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Portland, Maine was founded on July 4, 1786. Portland, Oregon, the relative newcomer, on February 8, 1851. Based on that, I'd say THE Portland is in Maine, at least in the US. Portland, England is quite a bit older.
You'll note that I qualified my statement by saying "here on BF". Otherwise, like you, when I think Portland, I think Maine. But, after my vendor's wrong Portland experience, I try to be sure.

Then there's Chris Igleheart, who's built frames in both.
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Someone from LA moving to Maine? I don't think so... I was surprised to learn from the stats that traffic is pretty bad in Portland. If I moved there I'd think about changing my focus from mountains to Hood River.
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I lived in Portland, OR on NE 70th between Glisan and Burnside back in the early 80's
and commuted to school and my work downtown near 5th & Stark. It was a flat commute and there were(perhaps still are) free color coded maps available showing relatively safe bicycle routes. Best were the Green ones. When I discovered these maps, I found my regular route was one of the "dangerous" ones! Portland is much more bicycle friendly now. Don
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Someone from LA moving to Maine? I don't think so... I was surprised to learn from the stats that traffic is pretty bad in Portland.
The traffic is bad in Portland. All the more reason to ride a bike.
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From the map, it looks as if most of the hills are distressingly far away. I'm currently in the Los Angeles foothills and love my 1000' of vertical every day.
There are a few hills in Portland.

You can try these short rides around Portland.
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https://ridewithgps.com/ambassador_r...an-west-portla
https://ridewithgps.com/ambassador_r...ost-portlandia

And a third one.
https://ridewithgps.com/ambassador_r...i-sud-portland

It may not look like much. Only 50 miles. But, many of those hills are 10%+. On the Saturday ride, those hairy things on top of the hills mean turning the corner and heading back uphill.

From last year.



East Portland is somewhat flat. West has hills, and depending on where you live, you can put one in the middle of your commute.

There are some good hilly rides up the gorge, and I think towards the cost too.
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Old 03-18-17, 12:57 PM   #11
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The traffic is bad in Portland. All the more reason to ride a bike.
I detest driving downtown Portland (around PSU). But, it isn't bad for bike commuting, with a lot of good bike paths feeding into the area. Or, heading downhill, one can easily keep up with the traffic.

Just be prepared for some "Liquid Sunshine" during the school year.

There is an active biking community up there.
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good thing OP did ask about Portsmouth or we'd have NH & RI duking it out
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good thing OP did ask about Portsmouth or we'd have NH & RI duking it out
Or Springfield. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield
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A bike commuter ASKS for hills?
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Portland Oregon is having a Raging Housing Bubble , prices are going up fast. !

You on a PSU paycheck will be or have housemates sharing those costs. you get A Room .
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Portland, Maine was founded on July 4, 1786. Portland, Oregon, the relative newcomer, on February 8, 1851.
I'd also note that those familiar with Portland, OR are well aware that our Portland was intentionally named for Portland, Maine and came within a coin toss of being named Boston. Nevertheless, anyone in Portland, OR can confirm that it is, in fact, THE Portland by virtue of its innate Portlandness.

This reminds me of a story I heard from a co-worker about his dispute with another person who shared his first name over which of them ought to have rights to the 'Carl.com' domain name. My co-worker had secured rights to it through the controlling body, but another fellow contacted him hoping to obtain it. My co-worked explained to the other gentleman that he was not just the rightful owner of the domain by virtue of having claimed it but also because he was the one true Carl. When asked to prove that he was the one true Carl, he responded by pointing out that he was the owner of the Carl.com domain.
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Regarding the original question, I would suggest that the goal is best achieved by finding a place to live in Portland proper and then crossing the West Hills over and back. Clifford's links provide a route that was designed to hit as many steep hills as practical on a relatively short ride. The thing is, traveling from outside Portland into Portland is generally more inconvenient than distances would suggest. There are only a few routes taken by cars and they all have some design feature that causes traffic to back up terribly during peak hours. MAX is convenient but slow and has insufficient bike capacity. There are a few pleasant bike routes, but they don't generally connect well to the excellent bicycle infrastructure within the city (and the PSU area offers some of the sketchiest bicycling in the city). So my advice is, don't go out of your way to make things less convenient.
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My co-worker explained to the other gentleman that he was not just the rightful owner of the domain by virtue of having claimed it but also because he was the one true Carl. When asked to prove that he was the one true Carl, he responded by pointing out that he was the owner of the Carl.com domain.
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I'd also note that those familiar with Portland, OR are well aware that our Portland was intentionally named for Portland, Maine and came within a coin toss of being named Boston. Nevertheless, anyone in Portland, OR can confirm that it is, in fact, THE Portland by virtue of its innate Portlandness.
lol yeah totally, after all there is a whole TV show about "Portlandness" basically, and it ain't about Maine residents.
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lol yeah totally, after all there is a whole TV show about "Portlandness" basically, and it ain't about Maine residents.
I love that show, and it's more accurate than many Portlandia residents would like to admit. I remember after the first season overhearing someone ask, "Is there actually an adult hide-and-seek league in Portland?" Another person responded, "No, but the fact that you even have to ask really tells you something."

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haha I've seen all the Ep's on Netflix. Don't get IFC unfortunately.
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If you're moving from sunny LA, you may decide that a 60 minute commute is less fun in the rain.

Pick your neighborhood based on amenities, cost, and character.
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Which one? There are at least 22 in the US, and many more around the world.

PSU is not Penn State but Portland State, in Oregon. The OP also has DUCK in their ID, denoting a University of Oregon tie.


PSU is dear to locals here who remember a football coach named Pokey Allen.


On the other hand, we get people that come from Portland (not cyclists, you see) and complain about Ontario being a dump, and how they are going back as soon as they can and are buried here years later.


Oddly enough, same thing with ALASKA (oil money) but they wander back and forth like nomads.
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A bike commuter ASKS for hills?
I know, right? OP can have mine...
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I know, right? OP can have mine...
To be honest, I'd be happy with a hillier route if it meant it was ups be less windy. Wind is my big challenge.
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