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Old 06-02-05, 07:23 AM
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Lube- that is, chain lube

I use a dry lube on my road bike- and love it. Unfortunately, it seems to last maybe three rides on my fixed gear commuter- and even less on my rain bike. Any recommendations for a lube that stays clean, won't wash off in a rain, etc...
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I use a 'cross country' lube, but I use it before each commute. I am also probably too obssessive about cleaning almost every moving part on my bike
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Originally Posted by filtersweep
I use a dry lube on my road bike- and love it. Unfortunately, it seems to last maybe three rides on my fixed gear commuter- and even less on my rain bike. Any recommendations for a lube that stays clean, won't wash off in a rain, etc...
I have given up using it on my other bikes because it is kinda messy, but I have always been really happy with white lightning for my commuter - I commute every day, regardless of weather, including winter and it's the only thing that keeps stuff from falling apart since I don't clean the bike hardly ever. As with the stuff you are using, though, you've got to apply the crap at least once a week. To me this is no biggy, I just carry a small bottle with me. and I don't get grease on my pants (road grime is a different story).
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I've been using the hot wax dip method of late, so far I've been happy with the results.
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OK right now I have a spray bottle of lube. How often should I apply? How would I know when to apply the stuff?

I'm very interested in picking up some of the "ice wax" and using that. They put it on my bike last time I had it in for repair and it was noticably cleaner. But my big concern is that I don't know when I need to apply a new coat of lube. Do I always need to clean the bike before lubing up?
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Old 06-02-05, 10:15 PM
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I've been using ProGold on all my bikes for about a year, and am pretty happy with it. My drive chain stays pretty quiet for a couple-hundred miles between applications (on the road, maybe slightly less on my mtn. bike.). Hafta reapply after rain, but that goes for just about any lube.

If you use it as directed on the bottle and douse it on there to "clean" the chain, wipe off, and then add a light coat your drivetrain will be smooth like butta, but you go through a lot of lube doing it that way. It might even out as I don't seem to have to apply it as often as other lubes I've tried (with the possible exception of Dumonde Tech, which I also had pretty good luck with, but is harder to find in my local shops, and IIRC is more expensive.).

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Old 06-02-05, 11:22 PM
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I have been playing around with lubes. Rain is the problem. You can get lubes that hold up well in the rain but they won't be super clean.
Right now I have been playing with Hondaís chain lube (motorcycle chain) it only lasts me 10 rides of 10 miles each or so but it is in a spray can it dries in a minute or two. Almost no black on the chain in two months use. Just a little bit I wiped off with a rage twice in that time. Sometimes I get two weeks out of it but I usually just apply it once a week now. I have gotten 4 10 mile rain rides out of it but sometimes only one. I think because it dries so fast sometimes it does not get down into the chain deep enough. So I have to practice applying it.
But so far I have not had to clean my chain in two months and 100 or so miles of rain riding. No other lube has been that clean. Plus it is only 4.99 a can. You can get it at an authorized Honda motorcycle dealer or order it from here.
It is also clear so you donít even see it.
https://www.parkeryamaha.com/index.a...D&ProdID=17183
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Old 06-02-05, 11:44 PM
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I am using pedros dry lube and it lasts a few days then I start to hear a slight squeak in my chain. Ive also heard that honda chain lube is good I might have to get some.
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the longest lasting lube I found was purple extreme. but it needs days to fully dry so you need a extra chain and it does not hold up to rain. but I got 400+ miles from one application.
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I'm using white lightning, I'm amazed how dirty a bike can get and I mean all parts, the tubes, the forks, etc. I guess if you want a really clean bike you just have to get used to spending a little time keeping it clean, kinda like currying and brushing etc a horse, and don't get me started on the actual time spent keeping a car happy, Ivan Illich has come up with the besy analysis of that!
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Originally Posted by dobber
I've been using the hot wax dip method of late, so far I've been happy with the results.

Same here. So far, I am *extremely* happy with this.
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Old 06-03-05, 04:59 AM
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Try Bosheilds T-9. Spray it on, then remove excess with a papertowel or shop rag. This helps to remove the existing grime. Then reapply and let sit for 2hrs or overnight.

Then again what lube you use depends on the bike and bike use. A daily all weather commuter bike normally is a utilitiarian vehicle. A good maintenance routine is required including luben' da chain. Climate is another issue. Dry and dusty can be a bad as rainy. I'v tried the hyped commercial stuff from Finish Line, Pedros and WL. All work if you have a maintenance routine. Bosheilds, for my use, is the easiest and longest lasting.
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Old 06-03-05, 07:32 AM
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One part Mobile One synthetic motor oil mixed with 2 parts mineral spirits. Apply to each link and wipe off the excess.
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Originally Posted by filtersweep
I use a dry lube on my road bike- and love it. Unfortunately, it seems to last maybe three rides on my fixed gear commuter- and even less on my rain bike. Any recommendations for a lube that stays clean, won't wash off in a rain, etc...
Maxima Chain Wax from your local Motorcycle Dealer. Full price $7.95 for a 13.5 oz. spray can. Keep it a secret, or else your LBS will start selling it for $6.95 for a 2 oz.
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Old 06-03-05, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dobber
I've been using the hot wax dip method of late, so far I've been happy with the results.
Huh? You dip your chain in hot wax? Do you pull it off after it hardens or just ride it off?
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Say what you will but 3 in 1 oil has served me well for 40 years.
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Originally Posted by Tightwad
Say what you will but 3 in 1 oil has served me well for 40 years.
Dude that stuff's good S**t.




Here's one totally off the wall...


I needed to clean my chain about a year ago in college, and I also needed to eat...but there wasn't enough money for both.

I bought a can of tuna fish and stole a bunch of condoment packets from McDolanlds.

At my room, I cleaned the chain, washed my hands, squeezed the oil out of the can of tuna, and made myself a small bowl of tuna salad which I delightedly ate.

By that time, the impurities in the fish oil had settled to the bottom of the can and I skimmed off hte good oil and dripped it over my chain.




Much to my suprise, it never spoiled and smelled bad, nor did it pick up very much road grime. The chain ran free for about two months, by which time I was overhauling the whole bike with my christmas cash anyway.


<.<

Just my wacky story. I don't do this on a regular basis.
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Originally Posted by Roadmistress
Dude that stuff's good S**t.




Here's one totally off the wall...


I needed to clean my chain about a year ago in college, and I also needed to eat...but there wasn't enough money for both.

I bought a can of tuna fish and stole a bunch of condoment packets from McDolanlds.

At my room, I cleaned the chain, washed my hands, squeezed the oil out of the can of tuna, and made myself a small bowl of tuna salad which I delightedly ate.

By that time, the impurities in the fish oil had settled to the bottom of the can and I skimmed off hte good oil and dripped it over my chain.




Much to my suprise, it never spoiled and smelled bad, nor did it pick up very much road grime. The chain ran free for about two months, by which time I was overhauling the whole bike with my christmas cash anyway.


<.<

Just my wacky story. I don't do this on a regular basis.
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Yeah animal fat isn't a half-bad lube. I had a pair of kitchen tongs that stuck and squeaked when you used them... But of course they go in food, so I wasn't about to lube 'em with motor oil or anything. One morning I was using them to fry bacon, and just for the heck of it I smeared bacon grease all over the hinge. They have moved freely and quietly ever since (even after being washed uncountable times, that was more than 5 years ago and I still have 'em).

[edit] Oh yeah VEGETABLE oil on the other hand does not make a very good lube, it gums up fairly quickly.
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the only good lube is rock 'n roll gold at www.rocklube.com
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T-9 Boeshield is good for regular use. Its wax based, but unlike White Lightning it doesn't just sit on top of your chain and leave your pivots completely dry, and create a mess everytime you apply. Seems to be very water resistant, and nice and thin and easy to apply.
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I still haven't found anything as good as Pro Link. That is all.
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Originally Posted by Eggplant Jeff
Yeah animal fat isn't a half-bad lube. I had a pair of kitchen tongs that stuck and squeaked when you used them... But of course they go in food, so I wasn't about to lube 'em with motor oil or anything. One morning I was using them to fry bacon, and just for the heck of it I smeared bacon grease all over the hinge. They have moved freely and quietly ever since (even after being washed uncountable times, that was more than 5 years ago and I still have 'em).

[edit] Oh yeah VEGETABLE oil on the other hand does not make a very good lube, it gums up fairly quickly.
I've never used bacon fat...not on my bike anyway...I used to polish metal with home-rendered lard though.


On the bike I've used the tuna fish oil I mentioned, which was proably part fish oil and part palm or soy oil...one time after that I got the chance to use salmon oil on the chain and tried just for hoots.

Two days later it stunk so bad I put the chain in the dishwasher.



Usually, I use 10W40 on it in copious quantities, whenever it picks up too much dirt I just take the chain off, go over it with some mild dish soap and a bristle brush, dip it in the motor oil, let hang for 5 minutes, and remount.

I don't sem to get black on my pants from it unless the ankle actually gets sucked in between the chain and sprocket, which does happen sometimes.
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Originally Posted by Fredmertz51
Maxima Chain Wax from your local Motorcycle Dealer. Full price $7.95 for a 13.5 oz. spray can. Keep it a secret, or else your LBS will start selling it for $6.95 for a 2 oz.
but does it keep the chain clean?
myself I think the honda chain lube may increase chain life because it attracts so little dirt. I have applied it atleast 12 times without cleaning or wiping the chain afterwards and the chain is still very clean. no lube has kept the chain that clean. though it does not last as long as others it is easy to apply.
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