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Old 06-23-17, 04:47 PM   #26
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I got right hooked 3 times yesterday. I was in the right lane, waiting for a light. There were cars to the left of me in the left lane. The light turned, and three cars made right turns from that lane, in front of me, as I began to move forward.

I just stopped and gave them the Navy salute:


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Old 06-23-17, 07:03 PM   #28
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To us over here, they all make perfect sense. Seriously.
i think he's referring to the zig-zag lines such as the one that appears on the left hand side of the road (to the right of the bike lane) from 00:21 to 00:27 or so. i know i've seen them in videos before, but i, too, don't know what they mean. something about being near an intersection?
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I have been "hooked" a number of times and pay close attention to the "signs" that lead up to the crucial moment, using aggressive tactics to avoid. Yelling at loud volume is the last resort.
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I would not pass that big truck (lorry?) at 0:49, though I notice it had a side guard, better than without.

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To us over here, they all make perfect sense. Seriously.
To someone sufficiently drunk, the Flat Earth Society makes perfect sense.

Brits even think this makes sense, just because there are some lines.
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i think he's referring to the zig-zag lines such as the one that appears on the left hand side of the road (to the right of the bike lane) from 00:21 to 00:27 or so. i know i've seen them in videos before, but i, too, don't know what they mean. something about being near an intersection?
Ah, those mean no parking. Otherwise, one can park in the street. They're used at zebra crossings and for school loading/unloading.

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Old 06-24-17, 12:57 AM   #33
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I would not pass that big truck (lorry?) at 0:49, though I notice it had a side guard, better than without.

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It became stationary. Also, it seems much safer that riding close to it. What a mess in the morning. Gotta hand it to the motorbike using the bike lane

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To someone sufficiently drunk, the Flat Earth Society makes perfect sense.

Brits even think this makes sense, just because there are some lines.
Magic roundabouts are the fastest way to have five roads merge.

They make a lot of sense as that have the minimum number of collision points and none are head-on collision. Didn't like them until I used them

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I see a few roundabouts in newer developments, but by and large these are completely alien to people around here.
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Lady in town got righthooked yesterday (sounds like she's fine-ish but the article leads with a bloody picture)

Bicyclist transported to hospital after colliding with car in Olympia | The Olympian
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Around here, I think there is a growing awareness of the issues.

It isn't uncommon for me to have a car pull up along the side of me, or even slightly ahead, then stop and wait. Even buses.
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Take this quiz. The first question pertains to this thread. The laws are probably different in each city.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2017/06/19/are-you-a-safe-cyclist-take-our-rules-of-the-road-quiz-and-find-out.html
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It became stationary.
Risky. It could move at any moment. There have been a lot of fatal accidents involving both cyclists and pedestrians who tried to pass a stopped truck, only to be ran over when the driver (who didn't see them) started the truck just as they were crossing. Here is one:

Investigators recreate scene of fatal bike crash in Wilmington - News - Wilmington Star News - Wilmington, NC
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I'm usually not going fast enough for a right (left) hook to be honest ...

good thing I'm rolling with a front brake only.

not much traffic either ...

Typical morning "commute."

There you go ... in 2 mins ... I deal with another bike, cars, a lorry, a pedestrian and a motorbike using "my" lane.
Useless video mate.

I'll add my contribution of useless video.

This is typical Sunday night traffic here in Shanghai.
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Lady in town got righthooked yesterday (sounds like she's fine-ish but the article leads with a bloody picture)

Bicyclist transported to hospital after colliding with car in Olympia | The Olympian
If it bleeds it leads.

This is an all too common occurrence in China, nobody cares.

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Useless video mate.

I'll add my contribution of useless video.

This is typical Sunday night traffic here in Shanghai.
I find cycling is China quite easy as one is almost always separated from the cars in Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities. Sure, the motorbikes and scooters use the same wide shared area, but in some regards it's much easier than Europe as cars and peds won't often enter same space. Also, Shanghai is very civilised compared to other places I cycled in China.
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I find cycling is China quite easy as one is almost always separated from the cars in Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities. Sure, the motorbikes and scooters use the same wide shared area, but in some regards it's much easier than Europe as cars and peds won't often enter same space. Also, Shanghai is very civilised compared to other places I cycled in China.
I find the countryside far more civilized than any city in China.

I've seen many accidents directly because of this separation. (its not always very wide)

Wrong way head on collisions, fingers and toes mangled by fences, or most commonly, crashes into a curb or barrier.

It is better than it was 10 years ago, (better roads mostly) I wouldn't have dared to try my luck back then.

I've had very few problems sharing the road with 4 wheeled motor vehicles in China, the two wheeled kind is a different story though.

One thing I have noticed, is that having a visible camera tends to reduce some of the blatant stupidity.

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I find the countryside far more civilized than any city in China.

I've seen many accidents directly because of this separation. (its not always very wide)

Wrong way head on collisions, fingers and toes mangled by fences, or most commonly, crashes into a curb or barrier.

It is better than it was 10 years ago, (better roads mostly) I wouldn't have dared to try my luck back then.

I've had very few problems sharing the road with 4 wheeled motor vehicles in China, the two wheeled kind is a different story though.

One thing I have noticed, is that having a visible camera tends to reduce some of the blatant stupidity.
I know. I'd ridden on those many, many times.

I find the countryside harder in Asia as the lorries pass very close on major roads, especially the coastal routes in Vietnam.
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Riding on major roads passing through the countryside is best avoided, its like riding on an interstate in the US.

A completely soulless experience and the speed differentials are huge, not much room for error.

If there isn't an alternate route, it isn't worth it, in my experience.
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i think he's referring to the zig-zag lines such as the one that appears on the left hand side of the road (to the right of the bike lane) from 00:21 to 00:27 or so. i know i've seen them in videos before, but i, too, don't know what they mean. something about being near an intersection?
I think the zigzag sidelines mean "caution: approaching crosswalk"
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Here , the ODOT replaced a T intersection with a roundabout..

Before the ACA/Bikecentennial Maps routed cyclists over a hill thru a residential street

Just to Avoid that T. [end of OR 202 meets US 101]

Now the roundabout is safer and improved the traffic flow ..





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I think the zigzag sidelines mean "caution: approaching crosswalk"
It means no parking allowed. Otherwise, parking on the side of the street is allowed. Even if only a single lane results on a dual directional street due to cars on both sides.
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Most drivers (and cyclists) don't know that the proper way for a car to make a right turn over a bike lane is to "take the lane" of the bike lane as they turn right. In other words, the driver should occupy the bike lane by merging into it prior to making the turn. The driver should not turn across the lane. This, in effect, pretty much would eliminate right hooks.

Cyclists in many cases don't understand this either and get upset when drivers do just that.

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I'm usually not going fast enough for a right (left) hook to be honest ...

good thing I'm rolling with a front brake only.

not much traffic either ...

Typical morning "commute."

There you go ... in 2 mins ... I deal with another bike, cars, a lorry, a pedestrian and a motorbike using "my" lane.
Interesting. Is it me, or are there fewer cars sitting on the bike lane when it's colored? Psychology FTW!
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