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Riding Position Question
So, I have decided part of the reason I hate my mountain bike is I'm so used to the road bike riding position, and hence that's part of the reason I don't like the cold weather coming, I switch bikes, and end up riding less because I hate that riding position. I am thinking of flipping the stem on my mountain bike and putting drop bars on it. Has anyone had an luck with this approach? I have hydraulic brakes, and love them, so I am not willing to switch brakes or shifters, but I think I can get them far enough in on the flat part of the bar to make it work as long as I can get them in position... thoughts?
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A famous mountain biker raced for years on dropped handlebars. (I believe mostly to please his sponsor but it worked quite well for him.)
Putting your brakes on the tops and riding the drops means you do not have quick access to them. Not a good idea if you are riding in traffic unless you stay on the tops (and if you do that, why bother changing bars). Also, one of the great features of dropped handlebars is the brake hoods for climbing. (You could put on lever-less hoods, tandem stoker style. Riding with my hands forward of the brakes with weight on them would scare the **** out of me. What if someone pulls out of a driveway? Ben |
Originally Posted by josephjhaney
(Post 19727827)
So, I have decided part of the reason I hate my mountain bike is I'm so used to the road bike riding position, and hence that's part of the reason I don't like the cold weather coming, I switch bikes, and end up riding less because I hate that riding position. I am thinking of flipping the stem on my mountain bike and putting drop bars on it. Has anyone had an luck with this approach? I have hydraulic brakes, and love them, so I am not willing to switch brakes or shifters, but I think I can get them far enough in on the flat part of the bar to make it work as long as I can get them in position... thoughts?
Joe http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...sions-228.html |
Originally Posted by josephjhaney
(Post 19727827)
So, I have decided part of the reason I hate my mountain bike is I'm so used to the road bike riding position, and hence that's part of the reason I don't like the cold weather coming, I switch bikes, and end up riding less because I hate that riding position. I am thinking of flipping the stem on my mountain bike and putting drop bars on it. Has anyone had an luck with this approach? I have hydraulic brakes, and love them, so I am not willing to switch brakes or shifters, but I think I can get them far enough in on the flat part of the bar to make it work as long as I can get them in position... thoughts?
Joe http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/...road-bars.html http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...road-bars.html |
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I put inboard bar ends that approximate the hoods. I also have an aero bar. This gives me quite a few hand positions, and more than a few puzzled looks. But it works for me and I'm happy.
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Put "bar ends" inboard of your grips. This is similar to the hoods. And one advantage is you can set it wider. And you have access to the brakes at the normal mtb grip, wide grip for slow speed manouver.
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Ditto, the flipped North Roads or albatross bars. No additional expense for brake levers, etc.
A friend did this with his hybrid. With flipped albatross bars he's as aero as anyone riding the hoods or top of drop bars. I have trouble now keeping up with him while riding my mountain bike with riser bars, especially into headwinds. Between that modification and going clipless his speed over distance is significantly improved the past year. |
All bars shapes and sizes come in both diameters, so there's no need for new brakes levers and such to switch to/from a drop.
However, to keep it easy, I'd look at an adjustable stem so that you can lower the current bars significantly and try many different positions it the matter of a few minutes. Let me know if you need links to particular parts (I'm on mobile on the toilet and can sort it out later this morning.) |
Jones Loop H-Bar
It will require a shorter stem, but you'll keep the advantages of a more mtb bar, have the advantage of multiple hand positions, and be able to go semi aero. There are even attachments available that will allow you to go fully aero.
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Normal flat bar grip area diameter is 22.2 mm while normal drop bar grip area is 23.8 mm.
Don't expect to be able to get your flat bar controls onto a standard drop bar w/o modification. Even if you get a 22.2 mm drop bar it's not guaranteed that you'll get the controls past the bends w/o undue force. Why not try a pair of drop bar ends? https://www.amazon.com/Origin8-33617.../dp/B0013G6PB8 Install is real easy. Will do what you ask for. If you like it, and develop a severe allergy against the bolt-on pieces, you can research a permanent solution at your leisure. |
Originally Posted by dabac
(Post 19729150)
Normal flat bar grip area diameter is 22.2 mm while normal drop bar grip area is 23.8 mm.
Don't expect to be able to get your flat bar controls onto a standard drop bar w/o modification. Even if you get a 22.2 mm drop bar it's not guaranteed that you'll get the controls past the bends w/o undue force. Why not try a pair of drop bar ends? https://www.amazon.com/Origin8-33617.../dp/B0013G6PB8 Install is real easy. Will do what you ask for. If you like it, and develop a severe allergy against the bolt-on pieces, you can research a permanent solution at your leisure. Joe |
Thanks for all the replies, lots of options! I think the bolt on drops is the way I'm leaning, but I've got time to research it all.
Joe |
Originally Posted by dabac
(Post 19729150)
Normal flat bar grip area diameter is 22.2 mm while normal drop bar grip area is 23.8 mm.
Don't expect to be able to get your flat bar controls onto a standard drop bar w/o modification. Even if you get a 22.2 mm drop bar it's not guaranteed that you'll get the controls past the bends w/o undue force. Why not try a pair of drop bar ends? https://www.amazon.com/Origin8-33617.../dp/B0013G6PB8 Install is real easy. Will do what you ask for. If you like it, and develop a severe allergy against the bolt-on pieces, you can research a permanent solution at your leisure. Most road brake levers don't work with mountain bike brakes - I'm not familiar with the pull ratio with hydralics though. Those bolt on drops look like they could be the ticket. A bolt on triathalong aero bar would work too if you like the aero position. No you don't need a different stem to go between flat bar and drops. you may prefer that, but OEM manufacturers use the same stem on bike that are sold in both configurations. (when you are on top of the drops, you want them about the same distance away as the flat bars, when you are in the drops, your reach increases proportionately). |
Originally Posted by revcp
(Post 19729102)
It will require a shorter stem, but you'll keep the advantages of a more mtb bar, have the advantage of multiple hand positions, and be able to go semi aero. There are even attachments available that will allow you to go fully aero.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1498535810 http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1498535844 |
Originally Posted by FargoRider
(Post 19729877)
Another option is Surly Moloko bars. I recently installed them on my Project-3 and really dig the hand options. The position up top feels quite a bit like riding on the hoods of a drop bar.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1498535810 http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1498535844 |
Originally Posted by josephjhaney
(Post 19729892)
Those look very cool too! Lots of options!
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1498535844 |
Originally Posted by FargoRider
(Post 19729877)
Another option is Surly Moloko bars. I recently installed them on my Project-3 and really dig the hand options. The position up top feels quite a bit like riding on the hoods of a drop bar.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1498535810 http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g?t=1498535844 |
Originally Posted by chas58
(Post 19729614)
No you don't need a different stem to go between flat bar and drops. And sticking a 26.0 bar in a 25.4 mm clamp is generally frowned upon due to concerns about crimping becoming a stress riser and cause of failure. And no sooner had they agreed on 31.8 mm bar clamp diameter, when someone came up with a 35 mm diameter... |
well, I was referring more to the length but yeah, it has to match the bar diameter too.
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Originally Posted by chas58
(Post 19729614)
A bolt on triathalong aero bar would work too if you like the aero position.).
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Take a look at the soma sparrow bars. I have swapped the flat bars on my Raleigh and really like the change. Everything swapped without issue. They don't turn back quite as much as the north roads but they relieve the pain in my wrists that flat bars cause. I can bend my elbows and get fairly aero. They can be installed flipped if you want to go more aero. Not too pricey either.
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Originally Posted by revcp
(Post 19729102)
It will require a shorter stem, but you'll keep the advantages of a more mtb bar, have the advantage of multiple hand positions, and be able to go semi aero. There are even attachments available that will allow you to go fully aero.
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