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Friend, if I were in the dating scene, this is what I would say to some materialistic chica who is pushing-back because I have no car, or only a crappy, old one (because it's the truth): "I know my car isn't much to look at. I have two words to say in defense of it: 'Charles Schwab' " If she's bright enough, she'll figure it out. If not, pfeh...
Originally Posted by kurremkarm
Do any of you find that when you tell a member of the opposite sex u don't have a car because you ride a bicycle that it's a complete turn off for them?
This question is really for men, since most women who bike commute in spandex have their own problems and it's not being ignored. |
Originally Posted by kf5nd
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Friend, if I were in the dating scene, this is what I would say to some materialistic chica who is pushing-back because I have no car, or only a crappy, old one (because it's the truth): "I know my car isn't much to look at. I have two words to say in defense of it: 'Charles Schwab' " If she's bright enough, she'll figure it out. If not, pfeh... Edit: I'm assuming there's more to it than just that you have a crappy car because all your money is invested. Maybe not. How mysterious. Perhaps it's that cars are overvalued? http://www.trainweb.org/horseshoecur..._1a_4-5-75.jpg |
Yeah, sorry, it's too cryptic...
My situation is that I don't spend much money on cars, I pump $$$ into my brokerage account... so after being in the workforce for 19 years, I have one helluva big balance. These materialistic chicas are attracted to bright shiny cars, like birds are attacted to bits of tin foil, because their little ape-brains equate the showing of material objects with the actual possession of material wealth. But we know full well that many people drive FINE cars who have little or no or negative Net Personal Wealth... they live paycheck to paycheck, hand to mouth, but they live in style, right? What a bunch of posers. Even if we stay at the completely materialistic level, these girls are incapable of really seperating out the wheat from the chaff. Yeah, the original poster should stay away from them.
Originally Posted by recursive
I guess I'm not bright enough either... :(
Edit: I'm assuming there's more to it than just that you have a crappy car because all your money is invested. Maybe not. How mysterious. |
In a bit of a social experiment I replied to this posting on craigslist
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/w4m/78025276.html asking why being carless was such a liability. She emailed me back... Because I don't like to drive, and I certainly don't want to be carting some guy around town. I understand people can get around fine with public transportation or whatever, but I'm too nice a person to allow someone I'm seeing to take the bus to our date, so I just try to avoid that situation altogether. |
Heh! She doesn't like driving, so let others do the carting around town. Fun times.
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Originally Posted by lyeinyoureye
In a bit of a social experiment I replied to this posting on craigslist
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/w4m/78025276.html asking why being carless was such a liability. She emailed me back... These people are just too vai... I mean nice. They can't stand the thought of seeing anyone in anything other than a car! |
Originally Posted by lyeinyoureye
In a bit of a social experiment I replied to this posting on craigslist
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/w4m/78025276.html asking why being carless was such a liability. She emailed me back... These people are just too vai... I mean nice. They can't stand the thought of seeing anyone in anything other than a car! |
How about a woman's point of view? Hard to tell with this name. Well, I know I have lost job opportunities, a marriage with a supposed "good" man, living in the central city of all places, Southern California-the car capital of the world-and you know what? I would not still care for the car. If I had this "wonderful" car, I would be working at a job I hate, married to a man that hates me, and still stuck in a car worshipping world of Southern California because I would be supporting the car culture, not how I would care to live my life or associate with people who love me for my inner quailities, not financial servitude that my own mother traded her life for. That choice is getting harder and harder to find and live with now with the rush for money and all the toys it brings-not supporting oneself with dignity.
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A legend is what you bought I give you cold water and you Swear it was wine You bought time If you can fool yourself, then why not them? Just keep on passing it mouth to mouth -FNM |
Originally Posted by eblaska
You know what the secret is!!! Keep your car, find a great girlfriend who has a nice car and caring to you. Then sell your car, ride, and make her drive. :D
Keep Cycling! kb0tnv |
Originally Posted by Sawtooth
I have been thinking about this thread a lot lately. I have come to the conclusion that although I fantasize about it, MY personal choice to go to a car free life would be very selfish indeed. I have kids to worry about. I am 10 miles from the nearest hospital. I cannot risk having a 35 minute ride to the ER if my little one is choking at midnight. Sure, it could be argued that I could just call an ambulance, but I believe that would be rather hypocritical. In fact, as has been mentioned, none of us who buy food at the local grocery store are independent of oil based transport. Also, our local roads are safe enough for me to commute on by myself, but I am unwilling to force my children to take that risk in a trailer behind me.
I can choose to ride my bike to the store or work as often as possible, but in a suburb without mass transport, I simply cannot go carless without making my family suffer. I suppose we are all just somewhere on the continuim of being less oil dependent rather than being completely independent thereof. A lot of families need both parents working to get by, and both parents may spend a lot of time commuting as well. This leaves less time together, and less time raising children. The benefits of living in a Village style community (as above), add this time. The loss might be the extra expense of personal vehicles-which would not be needed daily anyway. |
I have an interesting experience on this very subject... I was talking to this girl on the phone at one point... and we were talking fine and whatnot.. she lives about 40 miles from me. So she asks when I'm going to come see her and I was just kinda like "I dunno, we'll see". So eventually she asks me what kind of car I drive. I tell her that in fact I bicycle everywhere and such. Her response? "I have to go call my mom.. I'll call you back". I seriously couldn't stop laughing. She was like 32, by the way. It didn't even upset me. I found it so completely absurd, I just laughed... and I still laugh about it. I agree that there does seem to be some sort of social stigma against those of us that choose a car-free lifestyle. Then again, any girl that wouldn't date me simply because I do not own a car is far too shallow for me to bother with anyway. So I agree that it's a great way to filter out the shallow, materialistic types that I wouldn't want around anyway. :)
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Originally Posted by cryogenic
Then again, any girl that wouldn't date me simply because I do not own a car is far too shallow for me to bother with anyway. So I agree that it's a great way to filter out the shallow, materialistic types that I wouldn't want around anyway. :)
Perhaps, as a woman, she wasn't interested in someone who called her a girl. |
Hey, cryogenic,
Did this girl have a car? If she REALLY wanted to see you, she could borrow her mom's car or have one of her friends drive her to see you, or maybe you or her could rent a car to see each other (did you tell her you were car-free by choice?). I've been car-free once in the past (wish I still was!) and had a girlfriend that had a car. Something could have been worked out. I think that's really lame that some chick won't have anything to do with a guy just because he doesn't have a car. Now if a guy was HOMELESS that would be a different matter (I'm not picking on the homeless!) |
Hosp. 10 miles away. On a bike at 20MPH that's 1/2 hour. If you're a seasoned rider the skill and motivation (sick kid) would get you there in that time.
Palo Alto is 10 miles from me, and it consistantely takes me 1/2 hour to get there by car. Freeway or surface streets, it's the same 1/2 hour. And if your kid is choking, you'd better know how to do the Heimlich or if need be intubate with something and in essence, fix the problem while you wait that 1/2 hour for the ambulance to come. As an aside, I remember once on of my younger sisters swallows a penny and was choking. My dad picked her up my her feet and held her upside down and shook a couple of times and it came right out! What started as a medical emergency ended up as great fun and the lesson: Don't Swallow Pennies. |
Originally Posted by farrellcollie
Perhaps, as a woman, she wasn't interested in someone who called her a girl.
Originally Posted by smurfy
Hey, cryogenic,
Did this girl have a car? If she REALLY wanted to see you, she could borrow her mom's car or have one of her friends drive her to see you, or maybe you or her could rent a car to see each other (did you tell her you were car-free by choice?). I've been car-free once in the past (wish I still was!) and had a girlfriend that had a car. Something could have been worked out. I think that's really lame that some chick won't have anything to do with a guy just because he doesn't have a car. Now if a guy was HOMELESS that would be a different matter (I'm not picking on the homeless!) |
Originally Posted by Camel
Being carfree is a choice of convenience vs necessity, and sometimes a difficult one. For a family to be carfree (and I don't submitt anyone needs to be, just that they can), they would find it easier to live close to (say within walking distance) services-schools, grocers, hardware, doctors/dentists offices and respective employers. Currently in much of the US, housing costs to live this close to services are astronomical. This used to be termed a village, community, or neighborhood. Can a family be carfree? Sure-but it might take a lot of effort.
A lot of families need both parents working to get by, and both parents may spend a lot of time commuting as well. This leaves less time together, and less time raising children. The benefits of living in a Village style community (as above), add this time. The loss might be the extra expense of personal vehicles-which would not be needed daily anyway. |
BRAVA !!!
Originally Posted by folder fanatic
If I had this "wonderful" car, I would be working at a job I hate, married to a man that hates me, and still stuck in a car worshipping world of Southern California because I would be supporting the car culture, not how I would care to live my life or associate with people who love me for my inner quailities, not financial servitude that my own mother traded her life for. That choice is getting harder and harder to find and live with now with the rush for money and all the toys it brings-not supporting oneself with dignity.
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Depending where you live. I couldn't hardly imagine why I would need a car living in NYC. I would need a car because I have to drive to races. I won't do it just for the other people. Me??? Live my life in accordance to the false and superficial expectation of others??? I race bike. That said a lot. I think the woman gets turn on if I tell them I race bike than i have a car. :D
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Originally Posted by kf5nd
But we know full well that many people drive FINE cars who have little or no or negative Net Personal Wealth... they live paycheck to paycheck, hand to mouth, but they live in style, right?
What a bunch of posers. Even if we stay at the completely materialistic level, these girls are incapable of really seperating out the wheat from the chaff. Yeah, the original poster should stay away from them. |
Originally Posted by smurfy
I think that's really lame that some chick won't have anything to do with a guy just because he doesn't have a car. Now if a guy was HOMELESS that would be a different matter (I'm not picking on the homeless!)
In fact, they might see you better if you actually were homeless and living in the car. Heh.... society, what a joke. |
Originally Posted by slvoid
Unfortunately, with most girls, not having a car means you're just about homeless.
In fact, they might see you better if you actually were homeless and living in the car. Heh.... society, what a joke. |
Originally Posted by slvoid
Unfortunately, with most girls, not having a car means you're just about homeless.
In fact, they might see you better if you actually were homeless and living in the car. Heh.... society, what a joke. Some chicks like people who do things their own way. Would you really want to spend more than an hour or two with a chick who couldn't understand why you don't have a car? Take a close look at the type of people who you spend your time with. Do they share similar values and outlook on life that you do? |
Originally Posted by Ziemas
It depends on what type of people you choose to spend your time with. I had no problems getting dates and all the benifits associated with dating when I was carless and living in the States. I lived in a "car city" as well.
Some chicks like people who do things their own way. Would you really want to spend more than an hour or two with a chick who couldn't understand why you don't have a car? Take a close look at the type of people who you spend your time with. Do they share similar values and outlook on life that you do? |
Originally Posted by slvoid
Well as I've said, most, especially the younger ladies, who are mostly in it for the looks... but they're oh so hot... Yeesh. It probably won't work out well in the long run though.
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