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lmike6453 11-02-17 06:27 PM

Windproof / Waterproof Glove Layering System
 
I'm looking to figure out a layered glove system for all cold, windy, wet conditions. Right now I just bought some merino wool glove liners, but thinking about returning them for a dedicated 3 layer system.

So far I found these offerings. What do you guys use for proper comfort and wind / waterproofing?

https://www.dissent133.com/collectio...d-glove-system

https://www.showerspass.com/collecti...nt=42511417413

https://www.amazon.com/Gore-Bike-Wea...of+gloves+gore

PaulH 11-02-17 06:37 PM

Grandoe downhill ski gloves.

wipekitty 11-02-17 09:50 PM

My new favorite combo: Dakine Sequoia gloves and silk liner gloves. If you're a boy and want to look at boy gloves, the Leather Titan seems to have the same specs.

The Sequoia and Titan both come with their own fleece liner, which can be worn on its own in mild cold/dry weather. Otherwise:
- Kind of cold/wet: Just the glove shell
- Cold (most of the winter): Liner + shell
- Very cold: Silk liner + fleece liner + shell

I like the setup because it is breathable - sweaty hands suck when it's frigid. Depending on what conditions you have, this setup might be overkill: it gets cold, like below 0F cold, here in the Minnesota part of Wisconsin.

dabac 11-03-17 01:33 AM

I’m one of those who sweat easily. Pulse up = sweat on, end of story.
And that includes the hands.
Earlier I used surgical gloves first, to prevent soaking the insulation in whatever gloves/mittens I had on top. Worked well, but there is a comfort loss in riding while soaking in your own juices.
Now, My vote goes for pogs/pogies/bar mitts. Great stuff.
With those I can wear gloves thin enough to ventilate w/o freezing My fingers off.

acidfast7 11-03-17 02:34 AM

Breathable Swedish XC ski gloves with synthetic leather palms from L'ill Sport.

Best purchase I ever made for cycling.

sweeks 11-03-17 04:21 AM

I've had good luck with Pearl Izumi "lobster mitts" in the winter. They are good (for me) down to -20 Fahrenheit, and don't seem to lose their heat-retaining qualities even when wet either from inside (sweat) or outside (rain/snow).
Steve

mgw4jc 11-03-17 06:32 AM

But which one is best for wiping your nose? #snotproof

Bikewolf 11-03-17 12:27 PM

Fingerless summer glove – lightweight full fingers (windshield) glove – winter glove with/without liner.

The best (cheap too) gloves do get wet eventually, but keep you warm.

I’d keep those merino liners!

rumrunn6 11-07-17 02:36 PM

those Dissent combo gloves look sweet!

from what I remember, from commuting, there weren't too many days of riding in the rain, so I was able to manage by just shuffling various pairs at home & at work. meaning, when one pair got wet I hung it up for a cpl days & used other gloves

I was reluctant to spend $$ on cycling specific gloves (maybe not smart) but there are some really nice ones out there (like those Dissent you showed)

for cold weather I'm a fan of using two gloves, a liner & a roomy over glove. I got lucky with gloves I already owned. I seem really picky about "fit" so I'm reluctant to buy them my mail-order. below are my tortured gloves from last winter. I have various liners or wind resistant sport gloves but I would like to purchase a new set of over gloves. these are from 20 yrs ago when I bought everyone in my family a pair at a department store. they were always too big for me, but became perfect for layering w another under them. I even use that combo for roof raking & shoveling, etc.

now that I have bar-mitts, I'm not entirely sure I need to buy anything new this year. whoever invented bar-mitts is a genius. it's expecting a lot from a glove the bear the brunt of winter's worst. but I'm lucky, in that I can be selective when I ride, but I'm not shy about riding in poor weather

old reliable(s)
https://i.imgur.com/dmocceGm.jpg

drop bar mitts
https://i.imgur.com/h8Ab4Zwm.jpg

straight bar mitts
https://i.imgur.com/uziC0jRm.jpg

mitts may not be attractive, but when it's REALLY NASTY out, does it matter?

SylvainG 11-07-17 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 19978387)
those Dissent combo gloves look sweet!

from what I remember, from commuting, there weren't too many days of riding in the rain, so I was able to manage by just shuffling various pairs at home & at work. meaning, when one pair got wet I hung it up for a cpl days & used other gloves

I was reluctant to spend $$ on cycling specific gloves (maybe not smart) but there are some really nice ones out there (like those Dissent you showed)

for cold weather I'm a fan of using two gloves, a liner & a roomy over glove. I got lucky with gloves I already owned. I seem really picky about "fit" so I'm reluctant to buy them my mail-order. below are my tortured gloves from last winter. I have various liners or wind resistant sport gloves but I would like to purchase a new set of over gloves. these are from 20 yrs ago when I bought everyone in my family a pair at a department store. they were always too big for me, but became perfect for layering w another under them. I even use that combo for roof raking & shoveling, etc.

now that I have bar-mitts, I'm not entirely sure I need to buy anything new this year. whoever invented bar-mitts is a genius. it's expecting a lot from a glove the bear the brunt of winter's worst. but I'm lucky, in that I can be selective when I ride, but I'm not shy about riding in poor weather

old reliable(s)
https://i.imgur.com/dmocceGm.jpg

drop bar mitts
https://i.imgur.com/h8Ab4Zwm.jpg

straight bar mitts
https://i.imgur.com/uziC0jRm.jpg

mitts may not be attractive, but when it's REALLY NASTY out, does it matter?

Does not knowing which gear you're in gives you any issue? I once fell while clipped when started to move because I forgot I was still in high gear and tipped sideway instead of moving forward when I pushed on the pedal.

rumrunn6 11-08-17 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by SylvainG (Post 19979038)
Does not knowing which gear you're in gives you any issue? I once fell while clipped when started to move because I forgot I was still in high gear and tipped sideway instead of moving forward when I pushed on the pedal.

born in the 50s, raised in the 60s & 70s we never had gear indicators, so I never look at those anyway. plus riding at night they're invisible. I do occasionally glance at my front or rear gears to double check where I think I am. the mitts don't interfere w that. coming up to road crossings or stop lights etc I try to plan ahead so I'm prepared to either keep going or stop altogether. I only use 1/2 clips aka mini clips. try not looking at your gear indicators, you probably don't need them

SylvainG 11-08-17 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 19979473)
born in the 50s, raised in the 60s & 70s we never had gear indicators, so I never look at those anyway. plus riding at night they're invisible. I do occasionally glance at my front or rear gears to double check where I think I am. the mitts don't interfere w that. coming up to road crossings or stop lights etc I try to plan ahead so I'm prepared to either keep going or stop altogether. I only use 1/2 clips aka mini clips. try not looking at your gear indicators, you probably don't need them

Add a decade for me since I was born in the sixties but the idea is the same. Back then though, you could see or feel the gear your were in by the position of your lever. With brifters, you can't, unless you either look at the needle in the brifter or the chain (or by the power required to push the pedal if moving).

Earlier this Fall, I forgot to change gear to a lower one when I stopped at an intersection. When I pushed on the (clipped) pedal to start moving again, I instead tipped left and fell. Now I'm more careful but I don't like not knowing which gear I'm in.

rumrunn6 11-08-17 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by SylvainG (Post 19980157)
Back then though, you could see or feel the gear your were in by the position of your lever

ah yes! you ever reach for the ghost of the suicide levers? I do, so weird :foo:

SylvainG 11-08-17 05:27 PM

Well, I have Tektro RL721 Top Bar Levers so not the ghosts but grandchildren of the suicide levers :)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2214/4...05645cf1eb.jpg

lmike6453 11-08-17 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 19978387)
those Dissent combo gloves look sweet!

from what I remember, from commuting, there weren't too many days of riding in the rain, so I was able to manage by just shuffling various pairs at home & at work. meaning, when one pair got wet I hung it up for a cpl days & used other gloves

I was reluctant to spend $$ on cycling specific gloves (maybe not smart) but there are some really nice ones out there (like those Dissent you showed)

for cold weather I'm a fan of using two gloves, a liner & a roomy over glove. I got lucky with gloves I already owned. I seem really picky about "fit" so I'm reluctant to buy them my mail-order. below are my tortured gloves from last winter. I have various liners or wind resistant sport gloves but I would like to purchase a new set of over gloves. these are from 20 yrs ago when I bought everyone in my family a pair at a department store. they were always too big for me, but became perfect for layering w another under them. I even use that combo for roof raking & shoveling, etc.

now that I have bar-mitts, I'm not entirely sure I need to buy anything new this year. whoever invented bar-mitts is a genius. it's expecting a lot from a glove the bear the brunt of winter's worst. but I'm lucky, in that I can be selective when I ride, but I'm not shy about riding in poor weather

old reliable(s)
https://i.imgur.com/dmocceGm.jpg

drop bar mitts
https://i.imgur.com/h8Ab4Zwm.jpg

straight bar mitts
https://i.imgur.com/uziC0jRm.jpg

mitts may not be attractive, but when it's REALLY NASTY out, does it matter?

Do bar mitts limit how fast you can get your hands off the bars, like if you're going to crash? Or if you need to wipe a boogy!

rumrunn6 11-09-17 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by lmike6453 (Post 19981155)
Do bar mitts limit how fast you can get your hands off the bars, like if you're going to crash? Or if you need to wipe a boogy!

don't think so but then I haven't had any emergencies lately. basically they are just a wind screen shell. there's no obstruction to sliding in or out :thumb:

also, I tried riding in the drops for a while, it works but squeezing the brakes is a bit weird

rumrunn6 11-09-17 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by SylvainG (Post 19981048)
Well, I have Tektro RL721 Top Bar Levers so not the ghosts but grandchildren of the suicide levers :)

ah yes! one of the features that sold me on a Specialized Tricross (which I still haven'y acquired) there should be an icon for envy. not to hijack the thread, but do you find yourself using them? are they as beneficial a feature as they appear to be?

SylvainG 11-09-17 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 19981784)
ah yes! one of the features that sold me on a Specialized Tricross (which I still haven'y acquired) there should be an icon for envy. not to hijack the thread, but do you find yourself using them? are they as beneficial a feature as they appear to be?

I hardly use the brifter's brake levers. Most of my time is spend on the hood (then top bar second and drop third) so I find it's easier and less straining to use the top bar levers than the brifters to brake. They work just as well as MTB brakes lever and don't find the closeness of the brake levers to the stem (they are not that close) affects the control of the bike.

fietsbob 11-09-17 11:23 AM

glove shell*, + fleece liner glove ..


* Sewn gloves even shells , cannot be more than water resistant.. only a dipped rubber glove can be waterproof..





.....

elocs 11-09-17 12:28 PM

I wear leather chopper mitts with a wool liner. My hands are never cold, I can brake and shift, so why should I spend to have some fancy-schmancy glove system?

ollo_ollo 11-14-17 09:32 AM

2 non cycle specific Budget options: Upper link is good below freezing, but I mostly used the lower link, perforated ones for our NW West side of state Winters, good for wet/cold conditions in temps 33*F to 50*F as they eliminate sweaty hands problem and don't let rain in except during the heaviest downpours. They also dry quickly at work.

https://www.hivissupply.com/hivis-to...p-125-368.html

https://www.amazon.com/Forney-53151-...e+gloves&psc=1

Korina 11-14-17 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by ollo_ollo (Post 19992263)
I mostly used the lower link, perforated ones for our NW West side of state Winters, good for wet/cold conditions in temps 33*F to 50*F as they eliminate sweaty hands problem and don't let rain in except during the heaviest downpours. They also dry quickly at work.

https://www.amazon.com/Forney-53151-...e+gloves&psc=1

ollo ollo, we share same conditions, and I can't tell you how miffed I am that those perfect gloves don't come in small. In fact, I've noticed that most men's work gloves only come in M-XL these days. And you can't find women's work gloves, just those dainty cotton things that would fall apart in one day with the Trail Stewards. /rant

noglider 11-14-17 01:20 PM

[MENTION=421867]Korina[/MENTION], my wife is able to get women's work gloves at our local hardware store. I wish I could help you further, but if you'd like me to send you some, let me know.

ussprinceton 11-14-17 04:59 PM

check out the winter motorcycle gloves

ollo_ollo 11-14-17 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Korina (Post 19992698)
ollo ollo, we share same conditions, and I can't tell you how miffed I am that those perfect gloves don't come in small. In fact, I've noticed that most men's work gloves only come in M-XL these days. And you can't find women's work gloves, just those dainty cotton things that would fall apart in one day with the Trail Stewards. /rant

I first went with Kinco. They make virtually the same 2 glove types (plus a lot of others) and they have both in small. Not sure why the small costs more than medium though :) https://www.amazon.com/KINCO-909-L-U...nco+reflective


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