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Old 06-09-05, 07:58 AM
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when it gets personal

ok, so this isn't the first time, but...
this AM, an Audi passes me to close. As is par for the course, I caught up with it at the next light...
"You know, I would *love* the insurance money I could get from getting hit by an Audi. Keep it up, mister. Keep passing too close. You'll make some biker very wealthy."
"You've got a fat ass."
*puzzled look*
"And I bet you have a really smelly c*nt"

huh?
I wish I had my wits about me enough to say something like "I'm sorry that sexual harassment is the only way you feel like you can converse about these issues," but naturally, I didn't.

Does this happen to other folks?
How could you possibly respond?
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Old 06-09-05, 08:06 AM
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Nobody has ever told me I had a very smelly c*nt.

I do have a fat ass though.
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Generall snappy comebacks are not my thing and I try to stay out of those sort of engagements because the person is usually already angry, so they're not prepared to listen to some uppity cyclist lecture them on the rules of the road.

However, you can always try the, "Wow... Are you naturally that stupid or did you have to practice?"
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Old 06-09-05, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
ok, so this isn't the first time, but...
this AM, an Audi passes me to close. As is par for the course, I caught up with it at the next light...
"You know, I would *love* the insurance money I could get from getting hit by an Audi. Keep it up, mister. Keep passing too close. You'll make some biker very wealthy."
"You've got a fat ass."
*puzzled look*
"And I bet you have a really smelly c*nt"

huh?
I wish I had my wits about me enough to say something like "I'm sorry that sexual harassment is the only way you feel like you can converse about these issues," but naturally, I didn't.

Does this happen to other folks?
How could you possibly respond?
Probably best to not reply in that case. Who knows what the idiot is capable of. If he almost drove you off the road, he may be capable of much worse.
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Old 06-09-05, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
ok, so this isn't the first time, but...
this AM, an Audi passes me to close. As is par for the course, I caught up with it at the next light...
"You know, I would *love* the insurance money I could get from getting hit by an Audi. Keep it up, mister. Keep passing too close. You'll make some biker very wealthy."
"You've got a fat ass."
*puzzled look*
"And I bet you have a really smelly c*nt"

huh?
I wish I had my wits about me enough to say something like "I'm sorry that sexual harassment is the only way you feel like you can converse about these issues," but naturally, I didn't.

Does this happen to other folks?
How could you possibly respond?
I don't know, I kind of like your first inclination better.
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Old 06-09-05, 08:52 AM
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I swear—and you all can hold me to this—I will never complain about cycling in Vancouver again. The worst I have to contend with are bad pavement, cagers who drive foolishly on the bike routes, and the odd wandering dog/tourist/iPodder on the bike path.

The only person I ever said anything to—she was distracted by her cell phone and ran the stop sign—actually apologized to me.

The stories I read hear about abuse and assault make me just shake my head.

Chimblysweep, I'm genuinely sorry you had to put up with such absolutely reprehensible behaviour. Having read so many of the other postings here, I can only caution you that perhaps it may be better to say nothing. Clearly this person operates far outside the sphere of human conduct. And there's just no telling what some may be capable of.

Ride safe.
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Old 06-09-05, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
How could you possibly respond?
"May I see your license and registration please sir?"



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Old 06-09-05, 09:05 AM
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Wow, that is pretty personal. I am sorry that happened to you. My first inclination would be to empty my water bottle in his lap but you would probably be best to just let it go. I wish I had some very sticky bright orange stickers that say something like "I got this sticker for driving like a jack-a**!!". I could just slap it onto the car as it pulled away at the light. It would come off without serious harm but would take some work. Ahh, probably just passive agressive fantasies.
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Old 06-09-05, 09:51 AM
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Sounds like a real winner. Don't let him win by getting bent out of shape about it. He just used the standard male to female lowbrow insult because *he* couldn't think of anything better to say. Telling a woman she has a fat ass in an argument is like telling a man he has a small penis. Irrelevent, unoriginal, and really quite boring as far as vebal abuse goes.
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Old 06-09-05, 10:17 AM
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this AM, an Audi passes me to close

Audi? that says it all..............
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Old 06-09-05, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulH
"May I see your license and registration please sir?"



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I have so wanted to do that so many times... Of course if I ever faked it, it would be a cop I say it to the first time... D'OH!
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Old 06-09-05, 10:39 AM
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Well, I'll play the devil's advocate: it got personal as soon as you opened your mouth and turned the situation into a confrontation...

You didn't expect the person to happily engage in a meaningful discussion, did you?

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Old 06-09-05, 10:52 AM
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actions speak louder than words...

my favorite actions are:

a) wave and smile (if they were just stupid).
b) stop and pull out the cell phone (if they were verbally threatening)
c) call the cops (if they were physically threatening).

a = 90% of the time
b = 9% of the time
c = 1% of the time.

oh, here's a good one that i haven't done in a while....read their license plate number back to them and repeat like your trying to memorize it. because you are. lately, i just repeat it into the voice-recording feature of my cell phone. over the past couple of years, i've developed a nice little collection of make/model/license combinations.
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Old 06-09-05, 10:57 AM
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Share the road . . .
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My way:

Act like what he said was a compliment. Smile, say "thanks" and add a nice comment on him ("nice haircut", "cool car" etc.). Once he is frustrated by you "minding his buisiness" he will get really pissed if you're all smiling and optimistic about it.

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Hahah.. that is the best thing I have ever heard. I hope it was a girl. If not that was the worst comeback. :]
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Old 06-09-05, 12:15 PM
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My favorite response... stew about it for a few seconds, and then just relax. I'm okay. He didn't hit me. It was a little close, but I'm ok. I'll give him a glare on the way by.

Engaging them is never good.
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Old 06-09-05, 12:23 PM
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The people who say to keep your cool are right, of course.

That being said, my commuter revenge fantasy is to strap a decent water-gun to my bike with red paint inside or something similar. Buses and cabs would feel my wrath!
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Old 06-09-05, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bbaker22
You didn't expect the person to happily engage in a meaningful discussion, did you?
Often, they do, and that's why I approach drivers.
Something like 60% of cars on DC roads are from outside the District, and they don't know our laws-- i.e. it's illegal to ride on the sidewalk downtown but all these suburbanites are always shouting "get on the sidewalk."
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Originally Posted by svwagner
oh, here's a good one that i haven't done in a while....read their license plate number back to them and repeat like your trying to memorize it. because you are. lately, i just repeat it into the voice-recording feature of my cell phone. over the past couple of years, i've developed a nice little collection of make/model/license combinations.
I usually write it in the lining of my bag-- you should see the list of license plate numbers.
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If it wasn't so serious a topic, I'd say that was a pretty hilarious exchange.

What a tool that guy was to you. Bad driver and a pig, eh? That's a good one, actually, though I like the "were you born stupid or do you practice" response there, BTW. Another would be, "I didn't know 12 year olds could drive, because you act like one". Something like that. Plus there's the standard "big car, little weiner" angle, but I doubt you'd like to stoop to that chump's level.
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Something about a woman on a bike drives guys nuts.

I really think it is men trying to get our attention in any way possible...including harmfully.

I've had tennagers honk and shout at me on my bike...when I ignored them...they pulled up on the shoulder ahead of me and waited for me to come past. what they plan to do next I'll probably never know, because I usually find a place to turn off at about that time. Raod, driveway, I don't care...I refuse to be on te same road, if I have to I'll camp out halfway up someone's drive until the punks get bored and move on.
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Pretty boring fare. Our language is so rich, it's a shame that someone would use such a pedestrian put-down.

I'm a guy, and I often go with the *****exual angle when I'm feeling more like revenge than (wisely) ignoring the jerks. Nothing like blowing the tough guys a kiss and winking at them; tell them that their "big engine" makes me all hot, and that it takes a "man's man to drive as aggressively as you do." That kind of crap. By the end of the light cycle the guy is usually slumping in his seat, pretending not to exist while turning crimson. Wonder if this dripping-with-sarcasm act would work for a woman cyclist responding to a male driver....
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I used to try to catch them and confront them or yell or something. In fact, in Lance's latest book, he talks about catching a truck after he and a friend were ran off the road. Three big guys got out! Anyway, now instead of losing my cool I either:

1. Blow them a kiss and smile
2. Hold up four fingers to signal that they should give me four feet when the pass next time.

Of course, they don't understand why I do the four fingers thing. It is more to help me keep my cool than anything else.
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He certainly was not going to say "sure, thanks for the reminder." You talked too long and he had a some time to size up what he perceived as your greatest weakness (thats how mean men think).

I'd consider saying "you gave me a scare back there, could you try to give us cyclist a bit more room..oh, nice car, is it new?"

Either way you got your point across, stood your ground, and otherwise did good. He called you names and we all know that means he is wrong.

Oh, and guys like that are homophobic......which makes no sense as an Audi is a "chicks" car. So, you could just make fun of him for that.

....and thats all I have to say about that.
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