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Old 01-08-18, 03:11 PM   #1
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Went to the county courthouse today on my bike

as you can see they werent expecting cyclists. i still got my passport!
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Maybe that snowbank was left to help stabilize the bikes in the rack?
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The biggest problem I have with government offices is that I always have a pocketknife and various rescue tools with me. And I can't leave them with the bike. And they get upset if I want to take them in.

Those kinds of places can be most unfriendly to bike commuters... no, I can't just leave my stuff in the car.
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The biggest problem I have with government offices is that I always have a pocketknife and various rescue tools with me. And I can't leave them with the bike. And they get upset if I want to take them in.

Those kinds of places can be most unfriendly to bike commuters... no, I can't just leave my stuff in the car.
I just ask the guards to hang on to them for me, and I've never been refused.

BTW I ask nicely, before it comes up, as I'm emptying my junk into the tray, "officer, I'm going to need a big favor here....."
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I was wondering if I could bring my folder in...
Not here in New York.
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I rode my bike to jury duty - twice, a couple years apart, different bikes - there is no bike parking at the court house but there's a police office right there where they take people into custody so it seemed pretty safe next to the smoking bench. I changed clothes in the bathroom but carried my helmet around all day, trying to imagine how the lawyers would view that... didn't get picked... twice.





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What happens to your bike after you surrender?
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One just hopes it is still chained to the pole 25 years from now.
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you take it in with you-then they gotta keep it for you until release.
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One just hopes it is still chained to the pole 25 years from now.

You hope you have a quick-release?
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The last couple of times I've paid my state tax on my car or renewed my license I've rode to my GFs house and then walked the rest of the way. Easy peasy, and they even have a bike rack in the strip mall if needed.
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The last couple of times I've paid my state tax on my car or renewed my license I've rode to my GFs house and then walked the rest of the way. Easy peasy, and they even have a bike rack in the strip mall if needed.
So the message here is that we should choose girl (or boy) friends who live convenient to malls, courthouses, shopping, etc?
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It worked for me, but she was there long before the Secretary of State moved to her neighborhood.
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when you say strip mall it makes me wonder....
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You wouldn't want to wonder to hard, it's not that kind of neighborhood.
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I have wondered about that one; got an old ticket I might be tempted to just sit out due to my feelings on it. OTOH, it's a crappy area in terms of theft, and I wouldn't want to be stuck 30 rural highway miles from home with SPD shoes and no bike. Used to have a girlfriend that lived a few blocks from that jail, but she moved away and got married. Might see if any of the neighbors I know are still there and would let me stick the bike in their garage for 1-4 days. (I suspect the judge would kick me out with time served as soon as she's convinced I'd really rather sit it out than pay.)

Plus, any cash you have on you, they seize and then cut you a check on release, so I'd want to roll up a $20 inside the seat tube or something before going in, as the odds of any check cashing places being open nearby are pretty slim. (Tiny dump of a town in a mostly farming county.)
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I have wondered about that one; got an old ticket I might be tempted to just sit out due to my feelings on it. ....
Around here a judge is extremely unlikely to jail you over a traffic violation. Even if you tell him straight out that you are not going to pay (which would be stupid because it's normal for them to give you until the close of day to pay).

What they might do is suspend your driver's license until you pay, which may not be an issue if you don't drive anyway.
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Plus, any cash you have on you, they seize and then cut you a check on release, so I'd want to roll up a $20 inside the seat tube or something before going in, as the odds of any check cashing places being open nearby are pretty slim. (Tiny dump of a town in a mostly farming county.)
Take a bucket of change with you and have them give you check for it.
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Around here a judge is extremely unlikely to jail you over a traffic violation. Even if you tell him straight out that you are not going to pay (which would be stupid because it's normal for them to give you until the close of day to pay).
Not an option here; once it goes to warrant for failure to appear, you have the choice of sitting it out at that county's daily rate. (IIRC, state minimum is $75/day, but some counties are over $200/day specifically because if you're going to do that, they don't want to feed and house you for a week or more over a minor traffic violation they were hoping to get some money out of you for instead. The FTA generally just about doubles the original fine and fees, so $450-600 total isn't uncommon considering speeding 5 over is $200+ after fees in many places.) At worst, if they find that you're carrying more than enough cash to pay it off, they could try a contempt of court charge, but that just amounts to more jail time and you can likely beat it pretty easily. (They can't easily prove that you don't have a more pressing need for that cash.)

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Actually did that unintentionally when I found out the hard way I'd forgotten a ticket in another county; had about $15 worth of change in one of my cargo pockets. They did count it up and add it to the check along with the bills in my wallet. Oddly, though, there was never an opportunity to apply the money seized at intake to the fine amount; if there had been, I could have sat it out for one more day and been completely done with it. (I had something like $75 total cash, and another 24 hours would have left me $40 short of the total amount. Since they only do 12 hour increments, I'd have had to stay 36 more since I couldn't apply that.)
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Not an option here; once it goes to warrant for failure to appear, you have the choice of sitting it out at that county's daily rate. (IIRC, state minimum is $75/day, but some counties are over $200/day specifically because if you're going to do that, they don't want to feed and house you for a week or more over a minor traffic violation they were hoping to get some money out of you for instead. The FTA generally just about doubles the original fine and fees, so $450-600 total isn't uncommon considering speeding 5 over is $200+ after fees in many places.) At worst, if they find that you're carrying more than enough cash to pay it off, they could try a contempt of court charge, but that just amounts to more jail time and you can likely beat it pretty easily. (They can't easily prove that you don't have a more pressing need for that cash.)
Here, they don't arrest for an FTA stemming from a traffic violation. Instead, they simply suspend your license, figuring you want to fix that eventually.

Sometime back, I was in exactly that situation, and sure enough, I needed go address it. I went to the court house, paid the surcharge for the FTA, which was pretty small, to address the FTA and lift the suspension, then was offered the choice of pleading guilty or scheduling a new trial.

Oddly enough, the clerk suggested I ask for a trial because odds were the judge would lower the fine if I asked nicely.
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Last year I did jury duty, served on a jury for 3-4 days. It was too far for me to (practically) ride there, but I did bring a bike on a trunk-rack, and went out for rides on the lunch breaks.
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had about $15 worth of change in one of my cargo pockets.
Hope it was mostly quarters...
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Here, they don't arrest for an FTA stemming from a traffic violation. Instead, they simply suspend your license, figuring you want to fix that eventually.
We have a huge rural population, and a lot of those are in jobs where they have to drive; can't haul cattle or hay bales across the county on a bike. Suspending the license means they're likely to never have the money by any legal means, so another way of handling it is pretty much a necessity for them. A couple days in jail is less of a hardship for many than a $400 fine.
Generally, if you turn yourself in on one, you'll be put in holding, booked and eventually taken before a magistrate (whoever is available next, which may or may not be the one you'd normally see for traffic offenses - since mine was on a weekend, I ended up with some family court judge pulling extra hours on a Sunday morning) who then informs you of the amount owed, confirms your understanding of your rights, (attorney, phone calls, etc.) and the exact charge(s) against you, and then may decide to reduce the fine, potentially to time already served, or may just confirm the daily rate and how much longer you'll need to sit out the whole thing. From there, if the jail isn't overcrowded, you'll most likely be moved to a regular cell for the remaining time.
Had a friend who took personal leave and went to sit out $1500 in fines in three counties. Two magistrates had cut him loose with time served within 24 hours of turning himself in, and the other (the smallest of the fines) cut the amount in half. Took him less than four days total. Considering he worked at a cafe, I'm not sure how long it would have taken him to pay that off in cash, but I'm betting a lot more than four days, though it did throw a monkey wrench into his plans to use a 3+ day stint to quit smoking, (he figured at least one of them wouldn't reduce it more than that) because the friend driving him to each jail was a smoker, so as soon as he was in the car he had to have a cigarette.
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