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Old 02-11-18 | 10:09 PM
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Hey all! After debating of which bike to get, I finally got the Fuji Track Bike 2017 for only $325! This includes the assembly and free lights! The tires got me a bit worried though since they are so slick. There is no tread on it and I am a bit scared about it being punctured. I was wondering if there are any tires I should get for commuting and what are your opinions of my current tires? Thanks!

Rims: Vera Corsa DPM27, double wall, 24/28h, Formula alloy track hubs
Tires: Vera Helios, 700 x 25c, 60tpi (XXS Vera Invictus 650 x 23c, 30tpi)
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Old 02-11-18 | 11:15 PM
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If it helps, there's no (zero, nada) benefit to tread on pavement. Not even in the rain.

Tread doesn't improve dry traction or wet traction, nor does it improve puncture resistance, except by virtue of greater thickness.

I'd say ride what you have, and tethink this issue when it's time to replace them
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
If it helps, there's no (zero, nada) benefit to tread on pavement. Not even in the rain.
I do believe that my tires with tread (Schwalbe Marathon Plus) have better traction when wet than those without tread. However, the tires probably also have a softer rubber compound than other tires I have used. But, the difference seems to be minimal.

Nonetheless, it isn't something I'd worry a lot about.

I'm not seeing a lot of info on Vera Helios tires. It apparently is a Fuji house brand. But, I'm with others, ride what you have, and then replace if they cause you problems. Perhaps some experience riding the bike will lead you to seek out certain tires specific to your needs.

I've seen discussions of cyclists choosing to SKID on fixie bikes. What are your goals? If intentionally skidding, then there are some extra thick rear tires available.
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Old 02-12-18 | 07:46 AM
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if it helps, there's no (zero, nada) benefit to tread on pavement. Not even in the rain.

Tread doesn't improve dry traction or wet traction, nor does it improve puncture resistance, except by virtue of greater thickness.

I'd say ride what you have, and tethink this issue when it's time to replace them
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Old 02-12-18 | 10:48 AM
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Add a millimeter skim of mud from a construction site or an overflowing stream bed and a little tread can make a lot of difference, but, yeah, slicks are fine for most commuting.

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Old 02-13-18 | 06:03 AM
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Tread/no tread is only part of a tires performance aspect. Much more important for traction is rubber compound. Not all "slicks" are the same.

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Tires: Vera Helios, 700 x 25c, 60tpi (XXS Vera Invictus 650 x 23c, 30tpi)
I have the same tires on a Fuji Feather I recently bought on super close out. Rock hard compound, not at all soft or grippy. I'm changing them out not out of fear of flats, but because of less than ideal traction. I'd rather not go down.
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Old 02-13-18 | 09:14 AM
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+1 on the not needing tread comments.

The one thing they do, is have lower traction on hard cornering, and tend to break away much slower. Still, tread only does me good off pavement.

Personally, commuting on a track bike, I put as fat a tire as I can fit in there as track bikes ride stiff. Fatter tires (up to 30mm) have more traction, less rolling resistance, and are less prone to pinch flats. The only reason to go lower than 28mm is if you have clearance problems, or are making a fashion statement.
I typically end up with 25mm front 28mm rear (the biggest I can fit on a track bike). A Thick Slick is geat in the rear as the 28mm is huge (about 3mm bigger than my other 28mm tires), cheap, likes skid stops, wears forever, and is tough. It’s not light though.

Now you just need to find a velodrome...
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Old 02-13-18 | 10:42 AM
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I echo other friends, ride what you have for right now.

I roll heavy and slow--Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires on my bike. I don't love changing flats, so they work for me. I can still average 12 mph on my heavy, slow hybrid bike (with rack and panniers), so there's that. I love them. I snapped 2 tire levers getting the Schwalbes on my rims, but they are awesome tires. I think I have about 500 miles on them so far.
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Old 02-13-18 | 02:39 PM
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wear out what you have, first.. buy a new tire for the front , move current front to rear.. repeat add infinitum.
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I've had great luck with Vredstein Comp Race 25c, in all weather conditions except ice. Flat protection has been adequate for decently upkept urban riding, and they go on my Easton wheels nearly without using tire levers. Can't recommend them highly enough.
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I've had great luck with Vredstein Comp Race 25c, in all weather conditions
I have Vredsteins on my car

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Old 02-13-18 | 03:46 PM
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My favorite commuting tires are Michelin Pro4 Endurance. Commuting tires you can race on, or race tires you can commute on? Either way.

(I also have Michelins on my car.)
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My favorite commuting tires are Michelin Pro4 Endurance. Commuting tires you can race on, or race tires you can commute on? Either way.(I also have Michelins on my car.)
haha got those on my road bike! 25mm




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Old 02-13-18 | 10:19 PM
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Thank y'all for your responds!!! I guess I shall wear them out first!
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Old 02-23-18 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
I have Vredsteins on my car

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Old 02-23-18 | 08:56 PM
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If you ride on snow then the treads will help you with traction.
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Might as well use the rubber that you paid for. Wear 'em out and then consider your options.
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Old 02-25-18 | 10:58 AM
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I few months ago I put a Continental Grand Prix 4 Seasons on my rear wheel to replace a worn out Gator Skin. Great ride, better traction, also has high puncture resistance. Really, really happy with it.
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My two "classic" road bikes run on Schwalbe Lugano 700 x23 - apart from one morning when I picked up a glass fragment I've not had a single puncture on the commute. Grip is fine, and the tyres roll as well as any other clincher I've used.

The more modern road bike was also on Luganos, but I was persuaded to buy a pair of Gatorskins by a LBS last Autumn. Big mistake - although the bike's not my favourite in terms of ride quality it gets a lot of use over the Winter, especially on the commute. The Gatorskins simply don't ride half as well as the Luganos, have less grip, and seem to roll much slower. Possibly this is all in perception, but Strava sector times for this bike on Gatorskins are noticeably slower than for the older and heavier bikes on Luganos. So, new Luganos are in the shed to be fitted and if anyone wants a pair of Gatorskins with less than 1000 miles on them they're free to a good home.

To create even more confusion I bought an old and (very) heavy BSA as a bad weather commuter this Winter; first thing I did with it was to change the tyres as the ones fitted were starting to crack on the sidewalls. As the tyres are 27 inch I was limited in choice, and ended up buying a pair of Continental Ultrasport 2 online. They've been very good indeed so far, especially given the weather that the bike gets ridden in - roll well, puncture free, and good grip. Comfortable too, but that's to be expected as they're 27 X 1-1/4.
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haha got those on my road bike! 25mm
I'm running the Pro4 Endurance 23mm on my front tire, really like it so far. Wasn't sure if I could get 25mm because I have little fender clearance and the Giant OEM 25mm just barely fit. Do your 25mm tires run true to size or large like I heard the 28mm does?
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I'm running the Pro4 Endurance 23mm on my front tire, really like it so far. Wasn't sure if I could get 25mm because I have little fender clearance and the Giant OEM 25mm just barely fit. Do your 25mm tires run true to size or large like I heard the 28mm does?
haven't ridden that bike since 2-3-18. I can pump the tires up, measure & get back to you. what pressure do you ride at?
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Old 03-06-18 | 04:54 PM
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haven't ridden that bike since 2-3-18. I can pump the tires up, measure & get back to you. what pressure do you ride at?
I think I'm running the front 23mm at ~6 bar/~85 PSI. Think that was the minimum pressure stated on the tire.
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Old 03-06-18 | 05:18 PM
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Suomi Nokian A 10 tires are not high performance, but they are very hard-wearing..

I had a (Studless 622-40) pair on my touring bike .. 10 months later they still looked like new..
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Old 03-06-18 | 06:43 PM
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The great thing about wearing the current set out is it gives you time to agonize about what to replace them with. By the time you wear them out you may have new rims on the list as well. Maybe? Maybe not. Good to ride what you have and then have a better chance of knowing what you will want.
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