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no motor? 02-26-18 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Korina (Post 20193098)
:lol: I suspect it would take longer than cycling; certainly more expensive. Also? Not a guy. :)

I wonder what kind of weird looks you'd get for kayaking to work?

Korina 02-27-18 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by no motor? (Post 20193138)
I wonder what kind of weird looks you'd get for kayaking to work?

True. I get enough weird looks for cycling to work.

no motor? 02-27-18 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Korina (Post 20194222)
True. I get enough weird looks for cycling to work.

I can just imagine the looks on most peoples faces when you tell them you kayaked to work today instead of bicycled.

Korina 02-27-18 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by no motor? (Post 20194326)
I can just imagine the looks on most peoples faces when you tell them you kayaked to work today instead of bicycled.

The trouble comes when the tide is out; Humboldt Bay turns into a vast mud flat, and I don't particularly want to slop through knee-deep mud in hip waders (I had enough of that Saturday with the Volunteer Trail Stewards). It'd be great exercise, but no. :lol:

Darth Lefty 02-28-18 12:45 AM

I've wondered about it. Work is across a small lake and the shortest route is definitely by water. It's 5 miles by bike, 6 by car, and maybe 4 as the crow flies. Humping the kayak for the first and last mile would make it silly, I'm sure.

locolobo13 02-28-18 07:22 AM

I've found a "longcut". The city is working on part of 15th Ave where I commute home. Sure I could take the lane but it is just a little busy for my comfort. Looking at google maps and just working my way thru the neighborhood added another tenth of a mile to my commute. And several minutes; turn left, turn right, etc.

bmthom.gis 02-28-18 09:08 AM

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I can't say I have found shortcuts, but one or two alternatives that are way safer in certain areas. The biggest one is once I cross the bridge into the city, the bike lane ends at the first traffic light.

When I started commuting, I would cut through 2 traffic lanes to turn left at the light, then the first right. It was horrible.

Learned from a friend that I can turn right after the bridge and go past the USC baseball stadium, and wind my way through the sorority housing area. It was better, it added some time, but it still wasn't great. There are trains that sometimes stop and block one of those roads for a very long time. Plus, it did put you on a busy road for a short stretch.

Once you cross the bridge and reach the light, if you go straight you go up an overpass that goes over some RR tracks (it's very steep, and there is usually a lot of traffic and no shoulder). However, it took me awhile to find this, and I think it is only possible because of some new student housing, but I can go straight at the light and go under the overpass and that brings me to some new luxury student housing and I can go from there.

Attached photo: original route in red, 2nd in blue, winner winner chicken dinner in yellow

cyccommute 02-28-18 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by WonderMonkey (Post 20189343)
About 9 months ago I started working at a new place, but near where I've worked and commuted by bike in the past. I'm re-examining my routes (short, rainy, light, dark, etc) and have found a way to cut 0.4 miles off my commute. My normal commute is 15.2 google miles if I use the bike path the most, which I do if it's not underwater or too muddy from being underwater. Regardless of the potentially muddy part I just re-looked at a route I've taken before and it is 0.4 miles shorter. These two routes are version of each other and at some point I can either go this way or that.

0.4 miles is not really a big deal by itself, but if I didn't pay attention to 0.4 miles, would I pay attention to 0.4 MORE miles? The 0.4 miles starts to add up.

Anyways, I like to know which is my shortest, my fastest, my most enjoyable, and all that. Depending on the day I need each one.

I don't look for short cuts...been riding my route for 26 years...I look for long cuts. Many people have asked me how many routes I have to home and I tell them that I have 599 different routes and that I've ridden most of them.

fietsbob 02-28-18 02:40 PM

When on a Bike tour in Belgium I cut a lot of the miles the racers take on the Ghent Wevelgem race take, to the sea shore and back..

by following a navigational canal for most of the distance between them ... Wevelgem is very close to Kortrijk..

Lot's Knife 02-28-18 06:17 PM

After 11 years of my eight-mile commute, I'm still finding them!

nayr497 03-01-18 10:24 AM

Coming up on four years commuting to my current office. My route is pretty much set at this point. I take the safest/lowest hassle route possible.

This morning I had a bitter mom speeding to drop her child at the head start academy. She was going WAY too fast on a double parked road and on my half of it. Sorry folks, just because your vehicle is too big, doesn't mean you get to encroach on my lane. I let her know I didn't appreciate it.

She didn't seem to like that very much. Jumped out of her car screaming at me. I told her to save her breath and think about the example she was setting for her child.

Aggressive motorists never cease to amaze me. Oh, riiiiiight. I should totally let you break the law and threaten my life, because you're in a rush. Gotcha ya.

no motor? 03-01-18 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 20195862)
I've wondered about it. Work is across a small lake and the shortest route is definitely by water. It's 5 miles by bike, 6 by car, and maybe 4 as the crow flies. Humping the kayak for the first and last mile would make it silly, I'm sure.

Could you leave the kayak somewhere at either end? I was talking with someone from Seattle who told me it was pretty common for people there to have 2 cars - one on either side of the ferry they took as part of their commute to work.

Darth Lefty 03-01-18 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by no motor? (Post 20199601)
Could you leave the kayak somewhere at either end? I was talking with someone from Seattle who told me it was pretty common for people there to have 2 cars - one on either side of the ferry they took as part of their commute to work.

Nope! The south end has a place to moor (Sac State aquatic center) but it would add half a mile to the paddle and make the idea even sillier. But some boats have hand carts and some are light enough. I mean, see this thing? https://www.nrs.com/product/29321/nr...r-kayak-sherpa

no motor? 03-02-18 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 20199823)
Nope! The south end has a place to moor (Sac State aquatic center) but it would add half a mile to the paddle and make the idea even sillier. But some boats have hand carts and some are light enough. I mean, see this thing? https://www.nrs.com/product/29321/nr...r-kayak-sherpa

That doesn't look like the answer to your problem. How about an inflatable boat?

Darth Lefty 03-02-18 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by no motor? (Post 20200839)
That doesn't look like the answer to your problem. How about an inflatable boat?

what I really need is an electric parafoil

caloso 03-02-18 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by nayr497 (Post 20198547)
Coming up on four years commuting to my current office. My route is pretty much set at this point. I take the safest/lowest hassle route possible.

This morning I had a bitter mom speeding to drop her child at the head start academy. She was going WAY too fast on a double parked road and on my half of it. Sorry folks, just because your vehicle is too big, doesn't mean you get to encroach on my lane. I let her know I didn't appreciate it.

She didn't seem to like that very much. Jumped out of her car screaming at me. I told her to save her breath and think about the example she was setting for her child.

Aggressive motorists never cease to amaze me. Oh, riiiiiight. I should totally let you break the law and threaten my life, because you're in a rush. Gotcha ya.

This is a good example of a time when it makes sense to take the long cut. I would add a mile to my commute to avoid driving past a school or daycare. I would rather ride through the bar district at 2am than past a school at 8am.

Darth Lefty 03-03-18 01:13 AM

^^^word. Folsom is the worst with a big high school on an artery and a big middle school at the intersection of arteries

wphamilton 03-03-18 08:31 AM

I've found only one real shortcut on my commute, since 2010, by accident. A driver had gone off the deep end with honking and pointing, making faces, and then turned into the Verizon complex. Since there was literally no reason for it, I figured she meant I should cut through their parking lot. So I did, kind of sarcastically, and sure enough there was a gate to a side road. Not really shorter but cutting out a big intersection and traffic. Later I realized that there was a private road circumventing the entire lot. I sometimes wonder if she was really just trying to clue me in after all, or pointlessly raging like I thought at the time.

snoopansh 03-04-18 04:32 PM

i ride a lot and i always find shortcuts! just dont do it late at night:thumb:

WonderMonkey 03-04-18 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by snoopansh (Post 20204596)
i ride a lot and i always find shortcuts! just dont do it late at night:thumb:

Yes! Not an ideal time to explore!

ryan786i 03-04-18 07:18 PM

My commute is hampered by New Circle Rd, a large bypass road that pretty much divides Lexington into hub and rim sections. I'm a mile to two miles outside the hub now and that narrows my initial options to a handful of routes. The more direct ones are shorter but I go out of the way to take advantage of a bike trail. Once you're inside New Circle there's generally more options but I work essentially downtown so at that point the choices end up being variations of the same rush hour traffic.

I'd love to live somewhere I could actually find lots of short cuts, though.

WonderMonkey 03-04-18 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by ryan786i (Post 20204870)
My commute is hampered by New Circle Rd, a large bypass road that pretty much divides Lexington into hub and rim sections. I'm a mile to two miles outside the hub now and that narrows my initial options to a handful of routes. The more direct ones are shorter but I go out of the way to take advantage of a bike trail. Once you're inside New Circle there's generally more options but I work essentially downtown so at that point the choices end up being variations of the same rush hour traffic.

I'd love to live somewhere I could actually find lots of short cuts, though.

When I'm in shape to do full commutes, and time isn't a premium, I ride a bit to get to the bike path and take it almost all the way. Not much road time. I prefer this and find the ride to be much more enjoyable.

nayr497 03-14-18 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 20201650)
This is a good example of a time when it makes sense to take the long cut. I would add a mile to my commute to avoid driving past a school or daycare. I would rather ride through the bar district at 2am than past a school at 8am.

True, I could avoid that stretch. I actually use it as a cut through to get off a busy main road faster, but some morning there are angry, aggressive mothers at the wheel trying to get to school.

I can't complain though, as most of my work commute is on a MUP. My city is just going through an insane population/building jump so the roads have gotten much, much busier in like 6-8 months. It's really mind blowing.

Skipjacks 03-14-18 12:06 PM

A couple weeks ago I said in this thread that I don't find shortcuts anymore because I'd explored them all...

Found one over the weekend by accident. Technically it's not a short cut as much as slightly longer route that helps me avoid the heavily trafficed no-shoulder road of death I'd otherwise have to take for a half mile.

But still...a better route is a better route.

Daniel4 03-14-18 02:55 PM

In my opinion, the shortest route in an urban environment is along busy streets. Although I'm perfectly able to ride in mixed traffic, unless there are bike lanes, I prefer to look for side streets and trails. The lower the number of moving cars encountered, the lower the risk of fatality. Doing that adds distance as you'll be meandering all over the place.


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