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Old 03-07-18, 05:26 PM
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Heel clearance

Has anyone installed racks and panniers on a Spealized Deverge? I'm worried about heel clearance
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Old 03-07-18, 05:34 PM
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It would depend on the pannier and the rack. On my size 52 cm steel cx with a rack and panniers I barely scrape the panniers. I had an older set of pannier on it previous and didn't come close to it at all.
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Axiom makes racks which can installed so they are set further back to avoid heel strike.

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Old 03-08-18, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by robert schlatte View Post
Axiom makes racks which can installed so they are set further back to avoid heel strike.

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My Axiom rack is fantastic, for exactly this reason.
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Not that specific bike..

there are extension mounts that shift the mount behind the QR, using that for the mounting point..

or you can make your own..


+ you can change the pannier mounting itself, angled so as to offer heel clearance , by moving the top hooks..





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Old 03-09-18, 12:37 PM
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Other factors are foot size, crank arm length and pannier shape. The chainstays on the Diverge are 419 or 421 mm depending on frame size. Unless you have huge feet and long cranks, you should be able to make that work. Besides racks, which others have mentioned, some panniers are tapered to provide more heel clearance.
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Originally Posted by CreakingCrank View Post
Other factors are foot size, crank arm length and pannier shape. The chainstays on the Diverge are 419 or 421 mm depending on frame size. Unless you have huge feet and long cranks, you should be able to make that work. Besides racks, which others have mentioned, some panniers are tapered to provide more heel clearance.
I have to disagree. Unless you are particularly tiny feet, a 16.2" to 16.5" chain stay is going to make for a very crowded rear triangle. I have a cross bike with 16.7" stays and size 10 feet which I can't mount even small panniers on without kicking them on each pedal stroke.

The Axiom rack is a bandaid solution at best. Yes, it moves the load rearward but it moves the load further outside the wheelbase which has a negative effect on handling. Even a light load (<20 lbs) would lead to a lot of "tail wagging the dog" effect.
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Agree with @cyccommute on the rack. If you have short chainstays, a trunk bag and/or panniers that don't extend downward as far, or taper inward at the bottom might be your real friends.


(Example image pilfered from the Rad Power Bikes website: https://www.radpowerbikes.com/produc...nt-pannier-bag )
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Originally Posted by robert schlatte View Post
Axiom makes racks which can installed so they are set further back to avoid heel strike.

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The Jannd Expedition is good for this as well.

https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FREXP



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Every time you put a load in your rear panniers you are changing the weight distribution and therefore changing the handling, frankly I wouldn't worry about offsetting the panniers an inch or so to the rear. You weigh a lot more than your panniers. Catching your foot on the pannier can be a real frustration and worse case scenario is you might knock your foot off the platform unexpectedly.

My Vaude panniers (which I highly recommend) have a lot of adjustment on the clips, I have size 13 feet and have to offset them back a little bit on a bike with pretty average looking chainstays.
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Old 04-02-18, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by davidallenxyz View Post
Every time you put a load in your rear panniers you are changing the weight distribution and therefore changing the handling, frankly I wouldn't worry about offsetting the panniers an inch or so to the rear. You weigh a lot more than your panniers. Catching your foot on the pannier can be a real frustration and worse case scenario is you might knock your foot off the platform unexpectedly.

My Vaude panniers (which I highly recommend) have a lot of adjustment on the clips, I have size 13 feet and have to offset them back a little bit on a bike with pretty average looking chainstays.

I agree. I put an Axiom offset rack on my road bike so I could attach two ortlieb front roller panniers for a short trip. While the bike did not handle like my dedicated tourer with long wheelbase (I didn't expect it to), I did not experience "tail wagging the dog" scketchiness as indicated above.
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Originally Posted by davidallenxyz View Post
Every time you put a load in your rear panniers you are changing the weight distribution and therefore changing the handling, frankly I wouldn't worry about offsetting the panniers an inch or so to the rear. You weigh a lot more than your panniers. Catching your foot on the pannier can be a real frustration and worse case scenario is you might knock your foot off the platform unexpectedly.

My Vaude panniers (which I highly recommend) have a lot of adjustment on the clips, I have size 13 feet and have to offset them back a little bit on a bike with pretty average looking chainstays.
Actually, I think worst case scenario is kicking your pannier off the rack, and then having it run over by a truck!





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Old 04-10-18, 06:27 PM
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With my old Colnago, and old Blackburn rack, the goal is to always set the panniers as far back as they will go, with right-triangle shaped paniers.

Keep the rear triangle of the bike clear, and heel clearance is generally OK.

Floppy panniers is a problem if they hang out the back too much, but many of the new "touring" racks provide at least some rear support to help keep the panniers out of the spokes.

Does your target bike (Diverge) have rack mounts?
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Old 04-13-18, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
Agree with @cyccommute on the rack. If you have short chainstays, a trunk bag and/or panniers that don't extend downward as far, or taper inward at the bottom might be your real friends.


(Example image pilfered from the Rad Power Bikes website: https://www.radpowerbikes.com/produc...nt-pannier-bag )
These comments are on-target. I have a 16.25" chain-stay and was looking to replace my Ortieb Office bag (which was adjusted *way* back on the rack, enough to noticeably unbalance my ride) and ordered the Vario pannier/backpack. The Vario is narrow but with it's tall height it did not have a snowball's chance of clearing my heels and I exchanged it for a pair of Gravel Pannier low-riders. The Gravel Pannier has great capacity for my needs, my heels clear it without gymnastics, and my ride is so much more stable-feeling than before.
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