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Old 04-15-18, 11:45 PM
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What are you using, if anything, for first aid?
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Old 04-16-18, 04:12 AM
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I have a couple of band aids that I carry, and found a little dry box that I should fill up. But, I feel that any thing small, I can just leave open, and anything big, I can cut a covering out of my clothes, and hopefully if I'm really hurt, then help will be nearby.

I've gotten some mild swelling from bee stings recently, and would like to get some epinephrine (pen, syringe, vial, etc), but unfortunately, it hasn't been available.
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I haven’t carried any bandages or first aid kit so far. The few times that I did fall or crash, I got some bandages from the hospital that I work at. As to whether to carry any, I’m still on the fence.
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band aides & cream, incl. some wide bandages. also some pkg'd wipes for cleaning wounds. this is left over from riding with kids, but we never need that stuff it seems. on summer rides I'll bring something for poison ivy & insect stings. I also carry a small pill bottle with ibuprofen Tylenol & aspirin. this all fits in a small flat ziplog sandwich bag, keeping it separate from other "kits" in my trunk
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i have some bandages in my bag. I also have some bandages at my desk. I have used them in the past when I was run off the road and bleeding pretty bad. It was bad enough and hurt enough I took the rest of the day off.
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I have one from REI with about the minimum requirement, plus some of my prescriptions.

Some of it is left out because it’s redundant. I have tape and tweezers elsewhere in my kit.

Remember to keep it fresh. I’ve pulled bandaids out of my Camel that were so old the packages had fallen apart, and others that had gotten soaked and gone moldy.

Here’s a good article I saved
https://gearjunkie.com/diy-first-aid-kit
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I don't bring anything. There's a first aid kit at the office and one at home. If I need something more immediate or drastic than that, I should be on the way to the ER.
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I've gotten some mild swelling from bee stings recently, and would like to get some epinephrine (pen, syringe, vial, etc), but unfortunately, it hasn't been available.
Try carrying some Benadryl. Better than nothing.
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I have a couple of band aids that I carry, and found a little dry box that I should fill up. But, I feel that any thing small, I can just leave open, and anything big, I can cut a covering out of my clothes, and hopefully if I'm really hurt, then help will be nearby.

I've gotten some mild swelling from bee stings recently, and would like to get some epinephrine (pen, syringe, vial, etc), but unfortunately, it hasn't been available.
IANAMD, but I do have a bee sting allergy. If all you've had is mild swelling, you don't want epinephrine. Epinephrine is to stop anaphylaxis, which is a life threatening condition. You'd never want to inject yourself with an EpiPen if you could avoid it. It is a big-ass needle that goes deep into your quad. It hurts when it goes in, and it will be sore for several days after.

The suggestion to carry benadryl is a good one.
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Old 04-17-18, 02:49 PM
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IANAMD, but I do have a bee sting allergy. If all you've had is mild swelling, you don't want epinephrine. Epinephrine is to stop anaphylaxis, which is a life threatening condition. You'd never want to inject yourself with an EpiPen if you could avoid it. It is a big-ass needle that goes deep into your quad. It hurts when it goes in, and it will be sore for several days after.

The suggestion to carry benadryl is a good one.
It is hard to tell for sure, but I think the swelling has gotten worse as I've gotten older.

Many allergies have a sensitization phase followed by the actual critical event. There is also risk of swelling impacting breathing, for example. Different from anaphylaxis, but still a potentially dangerous event.

Perhaps my worst "stings" was hitting an underground hive on foot, about 10 miles from "civilization", alone. I was probably lucky that I was pretty close to a river. I still probably got a half a dozen stings, but it could have been much worse.

Benadryl is a classic stand-by, but I'd probably select a less drowsy antihistamine, especially if I wish to keep my wits with me after an event. But, still, it is a good reminder to get some drugs that last well without expiring quickly.
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Well, there was a long and very helpful thread on Advocacy & Safety, but it appears to have fallen off the edge of the world.

First you have to think about where you ride; are you in the city, where there is plenty of help all around? Do you ride in remote place where there's nothing around for many miles? Then you have to think about what you're likely to run into. Broken bones? Road rash? You can use what you have on hand; a pump makes a decent splint, your water can be used to rinse debris from wounds and eyes. A fully charged cell phone is a must for me. I also carry a small but fairly complete fak that covers most of what I'm likely to run across. Bandages, gauze pads, antibiotic spray, tweezers, gloves, a tick remover, a couple of sanitary napkins (for stopping blood loss as well), two doses of Benadryl, Tylenol, ibuprofen, an anti-diarrheal, a couple of lifesavers, even a survival blanket. Not sure why I have a snakebite kit, but there it is.

My rationale is that my fak is there to keep someone alive until help comes, so call 911 and stop the bleeding. I carry it on my bike and when my husband and I go hiking, because the life you save may not be your own. Also, road rash happens.

Also, take a first aid course; they're invaluable. It's much better to know what to do in an emergency than to flail around and let someone die.

You can get supplies from the dollar store, samples from your doctor, even the hardware store (where I got a pair of heavy duty scissors for cutting through clothes).

Hope this helps.
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Almost as important as electrolytes (or perhaps more) is a snack in case of bonk. It might be smart to keep a Clif bar (which are well wrapped) in the first aid kit. Remember to replace it periodically.
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I have a plastic mayo jar with some first aid items in it, that goes into one of my bottle cages.
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On short rides, I include a topped-off water bottle so I can promptly clean road rash. It's not a thorough cleaning, but this thread is about "first aid".

On longer rides, for the same purpose, I bring along a small bottle of alcohol-based hand-cleaner.

Even for multi-day tours, that's about it.
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I customized a trauma kit with gauze bandages, tape, butterfly strips, assorted shape and size band-aids, rubbing alcohol(clean & sterilize), medical grade gloves, super glue, tweezers, an elastic roll("Ace" bandage), scissors, painkillers, survival blanket, and antibiotic ointment. All that goes in my Camelbak every ride.

I have used the first aid kit roadside and on the trail on my mountain bike, and it had everything I needed both times.
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I customized a trauma kit with gauze bandages, tape, butterfly strips, assorted shape and size band-aids, rubbing alcohol(clean & sterilize), medical grade gloves, super glue, tweezers, an elastic roll("Ace" bandage), scissors, painkillers, survival blanket, and antibiotic ointment. All that goes in my Camelbak every ride.

I have used the first aid kit roadside and on the trail on my mountain bike, and it had everything I needed both times.

I'm curious what the Ace bandage is for?
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FYI; if you're a blood donor, you can ask for the mostly used rolls of non-sticky tape. Since there's not enough for an arm wrap, they just throw them away! At least my local bloodmobile does. YMMV, of course, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
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I'm curious what the Ace bandage is for?
I usually use it to layer over the top of the bandage dressing to keep the wound clean, but it can also apply compression for a swollen joint(wrist, ankle, knee), and may serve as a splint or sling, or whatever the case may be.

I once had a crash where I lost a lot(7") of forearm flesh, and I needed a great deal of bandaging as a result. The ace bandage was perfect for that situation, to keep the large gauze pads in place to cover the wound.

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I carry an Adventure Medical trauma pak (with clotting sponge) on the bike in a frame bag, as well as a rescue inhaler for asthma. In a pannier I also carry an epi pen, since I have a few unpleasant allergies. I have yet to use the sponge, but did use some loose clotting agent for a messy cut while doing some home repairs. Good stuff.

I do like the idea of a small ace bandage and will add one to the bike bag, as it sure beats trying to tape a wet wound area, be it blood or antiseptic wipe.
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I usually use it to layer over the top of the bandage dressing to keep the wound clean, but it can also apply compression for a swollen joint(wrist, ankle, knee), and may serve as a splint or sling, or whatever the case may be.

I once had a crash where I lost a lot(7") of forearm flesh, and I needed a great deal of bandaging as a result. The ace bandage was perfect for that situation, to keep the large gauze pads in place to cover the wound.

Hmm. Good point. It's similar to the bandana I always keep handy; it's like a mini towel, I always know where it is.

Also, yikes!
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Of the guys I ride, one is a trauma surgeon and the other is an anesthesiologist. I should be covered.
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got a nice splinter today. doc needed a syringe for the subcutaneous injection of numbing medication, scalpel & forcepts. none of which I travel with. he opened up the entry hole & backed it out the way it went in. also got a tetanus booster shot!
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Never really thought of really. I guess now I need to carry a few band-aids and some disinfectant?
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I've never carried any first aid kit.
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Without further comment other than to say: I'm clueless about a specific inventory of the panniers.

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