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Old 06-05-18, 11:19 PM
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Saddle replacement for Brooks C17

Dear community,

I ride a Spot Acme for commuting and occasional touring and I am sitting on an angled position with my weight properly put on my sit bones.
I've been using a Brooks C17 saddle which I've always found rather hard but never minded too much on short distances (<30mins rides). Recently I went on a two days tour and following happened after about 1.5hr riding:

1) Numbness on the front of my groin
2) Pain around the sit bones (had to stretch out of the saddle mutiple times)

I could partly remediate 1) by sligtlhy tilting down the front o the saddle so as to reduce pressure.
However 2) was unchanged.

At this point I think I need a different saddle and I am looking for suggestions before I go out and try some.
I am 6'2" tall and 215lb heavy.

Thanks a lot in advance!

Fabrizio

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I hate my C17. I try to like it, but its just not comfortable.

I love my B17 (leather), and Fizik Aliante.

The "reviews" proclaim that the C17 doesn't have to be broken in, but my B17 was more comfortable new, than the C17 ever was. And the B17 just gets better and better.
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It's impossible to say what saddle will suit a person. You just have to try a few. But definitely change your saddle if you have genital numbness. You should never tolerate that.
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A thought: the C17 is a curved top saddle, that's doesn't work for me. The Brooks Pro has a hump on top, same thing. Hammock style like the Anatomica also are big fails for this butt.

Flat top saddles, even if they're narrow, even cheap ones like the SR saddles, work much better for my anatomy. So, B17, Fizik, Ergon, some SRs, some SMPs, they tend to be closer to an ideal fit right out or the box.
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I have been riding these, love'em




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1 down 99+ more to try, I don't have your hips to have a say what I like , to matter.

you like the flatter sit upon part of that saddle type, or will a rounder shape help?

as I say on these FAQ, hit the bike shop and try 'Take Offs',

They're new, but bike buyer wanted something else, so Cheaper.



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@sounasega are you using a C17 or a C17 carved? I've been using C15 and C13's for a few years now and love them, but I can see how it could feel a bit stiff for some people. At one point I had a C15 carved and it had much more give to it. Might be worth a look and see if you can find a C17 Carved and give it a try.
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@sounasega are you using a C17 or a C17 carved? I've been using C15 and C13's for a few years now and love them, but I can see how it could feel a bit stiff for some people. At one point I had a C15 carved and it had much more give to it. Might be worth a look and see if you can find a C17 Carved and give it a try.
Some of my favorite saddles are super stiff, but the C15 is just uncomfortable after I get off the bike. Wish I could just carve it out myself...

Below - Hardy - I have one of those in my garage. Guess I should try it out. Mostly been riding an Ergon (or Fizik) lately...
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I have Brooks Cambium C17 Carved (the one with the cutout) on all my bikes .... The trick with these, is that you have to find the correct position of the saddle .... a little bit forward ... a little bit back ... but when you find the 'sweet spot' you dont't even 'think' about saddle on long rides

I see a lot of long distance audax riders using these.

and, sometimes, it's not the saddle, but it's your arse that needs breaking in
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I am a big guy 6"0 and 250. I have a B17, which I enjoyed, but because I had to angle the nose up I found that a little bothersome. I have a Selle Anatomica X (has the cut out) and I do not feel it at all, even in rides 2 hours +.
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Dear all,

Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.

I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.

Thanks again,

Fabrizio
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Originally Posted by sounasega View Post
Dear all,

Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.

I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.

Thanks again,

Fabrizio
So, while the material is the same, the carved versions don't feel as hard when you're sitting on them. I actually switched from a carved to a non-carved because it had a bit much give to it. But it really comes down to personal preference. If you're sit bones are 140mm, C17 should be about right. I personally have yet to find a padded saddle that doesn't cause pain and numbness after about an hour. I should mention that when I switched to Brooks, I was between 215 and 220lbs, so I don't personally think you're weight comes into play. Could be your position on the saddle as @dim suggested, or your sit bones just may not be able to adjust to being on a hard saddle that long.

If you buy your saddles at an LBS, I'd suggest talking to them about a loaner, trade in, or return/exchange policy. The two biggest shops around here both have excellent return policies on saddles and I've gone back and forth with one of them 2-3 times before I got situated on the c15. You might also look into a fitting, it's possible that there may be small adjustments that can be made that will change how you're sitting on the saddle and make it more comfortable.
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Originally Posted by sounasega View Post
Dear all,

Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.

I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.

Thanks again,

Fabrizio
Fabrizio - The springs are for riders who basically sit vertically. The narrower saddles are for riders who are lower and/or in the drops more often.

I wouldn't get the springs unless I'm sitting upright.

+1 for working with a good bike shop - good ones have good return policies, and sometimes even "loaner" saddles you can try out.
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I have Brooks Cambium C17 Carved (the one with the cutout) on all my bikes .... The trick with these, is that you have to find the correct position of the saddle .... a little bit forward ... a little bit back ... but when you find the 'sweet spot' you dont't even 'think' about saddle on long rides

I see a lot of long distance audax riders using these.

and, sometimes, it's not the saddle, but it's your arse that needs breaking in
Love my C17 carved !
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Originally Posted by sounasega View Post
Dear all,

Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.

I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.

Thanks again,

Fabrizio
i have a flyer, its very comfortable for me who rides upright. i do prefer the b17.
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I have a Brooks C17. It's an okay saddle. Maybe a little hard for my liking, but I haven't had any problems. I do much prefer my Brooks B17, which is ultimately comfy.

If your only problem now is your sit bones, I suggest that that you keep riding your C17. Your butt will eventually harden up accordingly.
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I adore both my B17 and my C17.
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