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Old 06-12-18, 09:03 PM
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Help me choose a 700x35 tire for bad roads.

I have a new commute with way more road debris than before, and my Paselas aren't going to cut it. (Just got a flat on the rear today.) I'm looking for a new tire that rolls well on good roads (so the Marathon Plus is out), doesn't become useless in the rain (so Gatorskins are out), has good puncture resistance (the T-Serv and PT versions of the Pasela probably aren't enough), and comes in 35mm width, or 32mm at the absolute minimum, since I have to roll over a lot of streetcar tracks.

Models I'm considering:

Vittoria Randonneur Pro (nice balance of attributes, but expensive and seemingly hard to find)
Conti Grand Prix 4 Season (ditto but easier to find, probably my frontrunner at the moment)
Vittoria Revolution Tech (sounds great for bad roads, but insanely heavy and might wear quickly due to the soft compound)
Schwalbe Marathon non-Pro (a classic and not too expensive, but heavy and not the best reputation for comfort?)
Specialized All Condition Armadillo (close to perfect on paper, but only 32mm and reviews are mixed)

Any input or other suggestions?
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Michelin Protek, regular tread or Urban.
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Vittoria Randonneur Pro (nice balance of attributes, but expensive and seemingly hard to find)
I have a pair of these in 700x35, no flats with the 800 miles I have on them. However, I have switched to the Vittoria Voyager Hyper which feel a little quicker. I have gotten a flat on the Voyagers in the 300 miles I have on them (small thorn embedded in the tire).

I think the Randonneur Pro are discontinued which is why they are harder to find.

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I tried the regular Marathon when my Hyper got sliced. No problem with the ride quality.
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Shwalbe Marathon Supreme
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Donneley (Clement) XíPlore USH. These have a bit of tread, but ride quite well on pavement. Iíve got about 500 miles on mine and no flats. I havenít had any problems with them riding in broken roads or while itís raininf, Iíve been really happy. On sections of dirt, I find I really like having a bit of tread too.
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Commuting on bad roads? I wouldn't be overly focused on weight but I would be looking for something relatively inexpensive with a reflective stripe.
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Old 06-13-18, 07:07 AM
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Schwalbe Marathon Plus HS 440. Heavy? Oh yeah. But you could ride through a field of thumbtacks and be fine.
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Marathons typically have petty low rolling resistance
4 season is a “modern” version of the Gatorskin that is lighter and more supple (in my experience)
Victoria hyper has pretty low puncture resistance
Seems like I have heard the armadillos are kinda stiff riding
the Victoria Randonneur that I had was heavy and slow (and a bit undersized). Maybe the pro is better?

Check out this site for rolling and puncture resistance:
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/tour-reviews
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OK, maybe I should dial back the "bad roads" thing. It's almost all asphalt or concrete pavement. Some of the concrete pavement is in fairly rough shape, and there are patches here and there where there's a higher than normal amount of accumulated road debris, but there are no gravel or dirt roads and I won't be driving over thumbtacks. (For Seattle people, most of my commute is along the Elliott Bay Trail from the ID to West Seattle Bridge, and then I need to go a few blocks on Marginal.) So I'd lean against any of the tires made for extreme puncture resistance because I don't want to sacrifice that much road feel, and I'd also lean against anything with knobs.

So, like... a 35mm happy medium between Pasela PT's and regular Marathons. Does that exist? Am I basically just describing Marathon Supremes?

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So, like... a 35mm happy medium between Pasela PT's and regular Marathons. Does that exist? Am I basically just describing Marathon Supremes?
Yup .... Marathon Supreme is what you need
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Personally, I use the 32mm 4 season for commuting. long wearing, supple, puncture resistant, and relatively light. The 35mm marathon supreme sounds like it would be pretty similar.

If you ride regularly, consider going tubeless. Its almost impossible to get a flat commuting. Small punctures are not a problem, and pinch flats are non existent.
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How about the Panaracer Ribmo. Alternately, the Specialized Armadillo.
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Can you go 38? Soma's Shikoro tires are working out for me, and they include a flat resistant layer. Mine come up short at only 35 mm on my caliper, but I wouldn't buy them if 35 mm is the hard limit. Nominally they are 38s.
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How long is your commute? My commute would have to be longer that I'd be willing to commute for me to use something other than Marathon Plus.
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If cost is no object the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme is very comfortable to ride, good flat protection, rolls fast, great grip in the wet, etc. They're $75/tire though so you pay for all that.
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I use Schwalbe Land Cruisers on my hybrid commuter. I know you didn't want knobblies but these ride well on corners wet or dry, are fast in a straight line due to the smooth center band and have a puncture band.
I ride mostly tarmac and about 1/4 mile of gravelly hard packed pavement out of my 9 mile commute, they cover all bases for me, step daughter now has a pair on her bike and loves them too for her only tarmac riding
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Shwalbe Marathon Supreme
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I see a lot of glass on the roads near me... I running Conti GP 4Seasons in 32. I'm 250 pounds and I have a rack and pannier setup over the rear. In the last 1700 miles or so, I've only had 3 flats, one of which was caused by rim tape I messed up.
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I've used Paselas for years but a couple months ago tried Continental Contacts in 700x37. I just replaced the rear after 2K miles and one flat. $35 each.
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Michelin Protek, regular tread or Urban.
This is what I use. And I run on everything from smooth fresh blacktop to gravel. They are a great mix for everything in between, hold up well, and are fairly cheap.
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I have a new commute with way more road debris than before, and my Paselas aren't going to cut it. (Just got a flat on the rear today.) I'm looking for a new tire that rolls well on good roads (so the Marathon Plus is out), doesn't become useless in the rain (so Gatorskins are out), has good puncture resistance (the T-Serv and PT versions of the Pasela probably aren't enough), and comes in 35mm width, or 32mm at the absolute minimum, since I have to roll over a lot of streetcar tracks.

Models I'm considering:

Vittoria Randonneur Pro (nice balance of attributes, but expensive and seemingly hard to find)
Conti Grand Prix 4 Season (ditto but easier to find, probably my frontrunner at the moment)
Vittoria Revolution Tech (sounds great for bad roads, but insanely heavy and might wear quickly due to the soft compound)
Schwalbe Marathon non-Pro (a classic and not too expensive, but heavy and not the best reputation for comfort?)
Specialized All Condition Armadillo (close to perfect on paper, but only 32mm and reviews are mixed)

Any input or other suggestions?
My go-to tire brand is Vittoria. I have never had a problem with any of their tires.
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Old 06-25-18, 09:26 AM
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One flat doesn't make a trend, so in your shoes I'd keep riding the Paselas until the tire was squared off or threads showed.

But if you're set on changing something, Continental Contacts wear like iron.
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