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Old 07-08-18, 03:28 PM
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650b for commuting? Framed Baja carbon consideration

After digging for a few weeks, having my bike (Framed X300) stolen, and being essentially forced to ride an old 10 speed, I really want a drop bar road bike capable of keeping my spin in one piece. Our roads are horrendous, and are likely rougher than many fire roads I've come across.

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Enter the Framed Baja Carbon. After really liking the x300, I'm willing to stay loyal and give one of their more expensive bikes a shot. I figure I can give a carbon frame and 650b wheels a try, and if I don't like one or the other, the $1400 price tag is certainly a bargain it seams for the components if i decided to swap out the frame or the 650b wheels for 700c's.

Is my logic sound or am I better off with something else that's relaxed geometry, comfy, but not 'cruiser' slow?

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Old 07-08-18, 03:52 PM
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That's one slick piece of machinery, BUT... Where are the rack and fenders for that thing???
All kidding aside, this seems like all speed and little comfort, is there not a middle ground that might work? However, I say get it! It's sweet! You'll adjust!
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That's one slick piece of machinery, BUT... Where are the rack and fenders for that thing???
All kidding aside, this seems like all speed and little comfort, is there not a middle ground that might work? However, I say get it! It's sweet! You'll adjust!
I don't use any panniers as I prefer packs, and I have never needed more capacity since I have a large one. I figured I would just use a seat post rear and the strap type front fender, so no mounts doesn't bother me.

Comfort to me is not having to constantly swerve to avoid road imperfections as to not rattle my spine since road tires are so narrow. These are 42c so they are closer to mtb tires then road.

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So the roads are mostly un-paved? This bike seems like you should be able to FLY over rough terrain, but I'm still wondering how "comfortable" it will be. I totally agree that those tires will be better than narrow road tires for the terrain you're describing, but the riding posture seems geared more for aggressive riding than comfort. However, this ride is slick and seems versatile on rough terrain!
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So the roads are mostly un-paved? This bike seems like you should be able to FLY over rough terrain, but I'm still wondering how "comfortable" it will be. I totally agree that those tires will be better than narrow road tires for the terrain you're describing, but the riding posture seems geared more for aggressive riding than comfort. However, this ride is slick and seems versatile on rough terrain!
"paved" is a loose word. There's only a couple blocks I ride on that are actually smooth since they are freshly paved.

I'm comfy in a "slack" road bike position. I just do not like having my spine dislodged by potholes, cracks, uneven pavement, and a generally rough ride.
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Heres a parking lot I ride thru daily for reference.

​​​​​​Many roads have areas this bad.
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Heres a parking lot I ride thru daily for reference..
Looks like a street near my wife's office (that I ride down 2-3 times a week). 700Cx32 tires and it's only mildly unpleasant. What size tires were you riding before?
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Looks like a street near my wife's office (that I ride down 2-3 times a week). 700Cx32 tires and it's only mildly unpleasant. What size tires were you riding before?
700Cx28. It wasn't terrible most of the time, but hitting an unavoidable pothole sucked hard.

About every 1 out of 5 blocks I ride are this rough, with 3 being mildly rough, and 1 I would consider smooth.

Im also considering 650b for snow traction, as well as hoonability ( jumping on and off curbs).

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I commute with 650B Super Moto X 2.4". Came stock with my bike and seems a bit overkill even for the streets of LA. Will probably replace it with some road+ tires
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I commute with 650B Super Moto X 2.4". Came stock with my bike and seems a bit overkill even for the streets of LA. Will probably replace it with some road+ tires
I planned on purchasing 42c gravel kings for the 3 seasons then put the knobs on for winter. We were less than an inch from 200 of snowfall last season
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I'm comfy in a "slack" road bike position.
Me too. Unless there is loose dirt, gravel or mud, I'd put on a pair of fat slicks. Then that thing should just fly.
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Me too. Unless there is loose dirt, gravel or mud, I'd put on a pair of fat slicks. Then that thing should just fly.
That's the plan. These in 42c

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Heres a parking lot I ride thru daily for reference.

​​​​​​Many roads have areas this bad.
Similar to where I live. My commuter bike with 32 mm tires at 60-80 psi was not fun. Now I run a couple bikes with WTB Horizons (650b x 47 mm) at 30 psi, and 40 is ok too, but 30 is nice and smooths out just about any pothole or uneven pavement that I hit. There's also enough air volume that I never worry about pinch flatting.
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Similar to where I live. My commuter bike with 32 mm tires at 60-80 psi was not fun. Now I run a couple bikes with WTB Horizons (650b x 47 mm) at 30 psi, and 40 is ok too, but 30 is nice and smooths out just about any pothole or uneven pavement that I hit. There's also enough air volume that I never worry about pinch flatting.
I'm putting around on a 70's Atala 10 speed and the 1 1/4 by 27in tires. And indeed, it's not fun.

Hopefully I can get a Bridgestone 400 that's been at a flee market this weekend for the time being and fit as big of tires as possible on it.

I can afford a $1400 bike, I just have to save for it.
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