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rumrunn6 07-11-18 07:15 AM

only time in the last 20 years I agreed w Wifey for us both to not wear helmets, she crashed twice & fell the 2nd time breaking her wrist. 1st thing the ER doc asked her when inspecting the wrist: "were you wearing a helmet"

she broke her wrist but she was lucky :wtf: (that she didn't hit her head)

we'll never do that again

oh, and I just watched the surveillance video of actor George Clooney hinting a Mercedes head on, where his helmeted head broke the car's windshield ... :eek: that guy is lucky to be alive, walking & talking

RubeRad 07-11-18 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by wphamilton (Post 20440239)
that's why the mirror goes on sunglasses, more flexible that way

Yeah, I've never tried the take-a-look on glasses. I don't wear eyeglasses, and I only (half the time) remember to wear sunglasses for long trail rides. Besides, my mirror was always falling off the helmet visor, so I strapped it on with tape, so it's pretty permanent.

RubeRad 07-11-18 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Archwhorides (Post 20440516)
So far peeps here “get it”, what fun is that?

I know, right?

alan s 07-11-18 08:29 AM

I love the people who ride with their helmet attached to their bike. Nice to have it available just in case.

RubeRad 07-11-18 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyG (Post 20440909)
People always talk about that "wind in your hair" feeling, but the laminar airflow over a bald pate is most sublime.

All right, I'm glad I've got that to look forward to!


Riding helmetless makes me feel naked, and like I'm cheating, so in that respect, I guess it's sexy.
Yes, that's a good description.

RubeRad 07-11-18 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 20440917)
only time in the last 20 years I agreed w Wifey for us both to not wear helmets, she crashed twice & fell the 2nd time breaking her wrist. 1st thing the ER doc asked her when inspecting the wrist: "were you wearing a helmet"

she broke her wrist but she was lucky :wtf: (that she didn't hit her head)

we'll never do that again

oh, and I just watched the surveillance video of actor George Clooney hinting a Mercedes head on, where his helmeted head broke the car's windshield ... :eek: that guy is lucky to be alive, walking & talking

Wow, is your wife not an experienced cyclist, or was it just a freak coincidence?

Clooney was on a motorcycle, for whatever difference that makes. I don't think I'll ever ride a motorcycle. I considered it for a while as an alternative to sitting in SoCal traffic every day, but I didn't have the energy to first take a comprehensive motorcycling safety course so I could do it right (similar to why I've never gotten a gun). So instead I got into cycling, and bought a house close enough to work to ride every day!

79pmooney 07-11-18 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by alan s (Post 20441046)
I love the people who ride with their helmet attached to their bike. Nice to have it available just in case.

They've got their priorities straight. Their stem is more worthy of protection than what is between their ears.

Ben

RubeRad 07-11-18 08:43 AM

Not really related, but once I was in a MTB race (more like a large event with numbers and timing), and I passed this guy up a hill (doesn't happen often!) who was wearing a backpack with a floor pump strapped to it! I told him as I (slowly) passed him, I hope he gets a flat, so carrying that thing is worth it!

GailT 07-11-18 08:43 AM

I'll share my stupidity. I'm pretty sure a helmet saved my life in a motorcycle wipeout 30 years ago, so I always wear a helmet when biking, except for one time - was going to walk a mile to the gym to workout, but it was about to rain, so I hopped on my mountain bike to save 5 minutes and get there ahead of the rain. Just one mile so I didn't really need the helmet. A few drops started to fall, but the road was still dry, except this was the first rain in 6 months and those few drops combined with 6 months of accumulated oil slick on the road surface. Making a right onto the main street there was a nice open gap in traffic so I sped through the corner to take advantage of it. Next thing I remember there were several people standing around me, helping me up and asking if I was ok. I must have been unconscious for several minutes. Probably 99.9% of the time you can leave the helmet behind and be fine, but it's not possible to predict which ride you really need the helmet.

RubeRad 07-11-18 08:55 AM

Well it is possible though to be aware that you're not wearing a helmet, and not do things like "speed through the corner"

I am 100% helmet on mtb trail rides though. My fall rate there is high enough that anything else would be stupid. When mountain biking, I don't just wear a helmet, I very often USE a helmet. Just a few weeks ago I slid out sideways and in the fall whacked my helmet pretty good. Gave it a dent, and it was like 4 years old and getting really gross anyways, so I bought a new helmet and tossed it. My new helmet (that I didn't wear on Monday) still feels fresh and clean every time I put it on.

Eds0123 07-11-18 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by alan s (Post 20441046)
I love the people who ride with their helmet attached to their bike. Nice to have it available just in case.

Some riders (including I) take the helmet off when coming up on a long hard climb on a hot day, I'll put it back on on the downhill side, Tour de France rules allow no helmet at such occasions , no need for a helmet wehen working hard, getting hot and going slow,

GailT 07-11-18 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 20441104)
Well it is possible though to be aware that you're not wearing a helmet, and not do things like "speed through the corner".

To clarify, I slowed at the corner, and then started to accelerate when I saw the open gap in traffic. Was not going very fast, but trying to accelerate on an apparently dry but actually very slick surface, I went down very fast and hard, the point being that there can be unknown or unpredictable situations that get you in trouble.

alan s 07-11-18 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Eds0123 (Post 20441109)
Some riders (including I) take the helmet off when coming up on a long hard climb on a hot day, I'll put it back on on the downhill side, Tour de France rules allow no helmet at such occasions , no need for a helmet wehen working hard, getting hot and going slow,

I suppose the texting or drunk driver will see you took off your helmet and avoid hitting you.

noglider 07-11-18 09:15 AM

I have no problem with people who don't wear helmets. It's up to them. I see some people carrying helmets on the bike path, and that makes sense to me, because the risks are lower without motor vehicles. I tell myself I could do that, but I can't bring myself to do it. On the other hand, I often take Citi Bike without a helmet, and I even ride in traffic. Sometimes it's deliberate, such as the times when I know I won't be riding back in the other direction and don't want to carry a helmet. And sometimes it's because I get on Citi Bike unexpectedly. But I generally wear a helmet whenever I ride. I don't take my helmet off on my regular commute because, well, you never know what might happen. I was in a very bad collision long ago, and my helmet saved my life, so I continue to bet that I'll have another, even though it's not likely. It definitely is nice to go helmetless on hot days, I will agree.

RubeRad 07-11-18 09:16 AM

Bottom line, wearing a helmet is less pleasant than not wearing a helmet (otherwise everybody would wear them all the time and everywhere).

Even alan s's avatar understands that

RubeRad 07-11-18 09:17 AM

And I can't believe it took this long for somebody to mention that basically nobody in Amsterdam wears a helmet. Sure it's a completely different context, but that's the point. Different situations have different degrees of usefulness for helmets.

alan s 07-11-18 09:22 AM

I think something that costs less than $100 and can prevent serious brain injury is going to be used at all times. I’ll take it off at the end of a ride on a bike path when cooling down and not going fast, but otherwise it’s on my head. I’ve fallen plenty of times and never hit my head, and have never been in a car accident on my bike, but it only takes one fool to ruin your life.

alan s 07-11-18 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 20441156)
Bottom line, wearing a helmet is less pleasant than not wearing a helmet (otherwise everybody would wear them all the time and everywhere).

Even alan s's avatar understands that

My avatar is safer than yours.:lol:

RubeRad 07-11-18 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by alan s (Post 20441183)
My avatar is safer than yours.:lol:

Touche! Although 2 helmetless people on one stationary bike vs a helmetless cartoon on a speeding bike, I'd call it a toss-up

RubeRad 07-11-18 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 20441160)
And I can't believe it took this long for somebody to mention that basically nobody in Amsterdam wears a helmet. Sure it's a completely different context, but that's the point. Different situations have different degrees of usefulness for helmets.


A couple of them mention specifically that Holland is an exception, and that Germans wear helmets.

DiabloScott 07-11-18 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 20441152)
I have no problem with people who don't wear helmets. It's up to them.

I agree. Although I don't like riding with them.

I've had two semi-recent emergency room visits because of bike crashes (no head injury though). Both times the doctors asked "Did your helmet take an impact?" I wondered if there was a reason they didn't ask "Were you wearing a helmet?". In one case my helmet did take a pretty big hit (it cracked) and they did a good head inspection. I didn't get the feeling that they were out to shame or give inferior care to me if I had said I didn't have a helmet on. ER doctors see the results of people doing lots stupider things than riding without a helmet... they need to be non-judgmental to do their job well.

RubeRad 07-11-18 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by alan s (Post 20441170)
I’ll take it off at the end of a ride on a bike path

?!?! Do you attach it to your bike, or just hold it in your hand?

Eds0123 07-11-18 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by as


I suppose the texting or drunk driver will see you took off your helmet and avoid hitting you.

Yes, there are lots of texting and drunk drivers on tour de France stages and on all bike trails.

alan s 07-11-18 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 20441192)
Touche! Although 2 helmetless people on one stationary bike vs a helmetless cartoon on a speeding bike, I'd call it a toss-up

That’s no cartoon. It from Make Way for Ducklings, a classic children’s book, written in an era where helmets were virtually unknown. Plus the crank is on the wrong side, which is humorous.

RubeRad 07-11-18 09:48 AM

This is also very interesting, but 5 years old:


I love it how at about 1:05 he's saying "it looks like these people are in a race", talking about people in jeans and button-down shirts riding what I think of as very casual (the way I ride)


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