Macs are good for desktop publishing and artsy production. I use to feel the way you do and then found ThinkPad. Thinkpads last longer, are built like tanks, much more serviceable and in the long run a better value. A ton more software available too.

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No, they're hardcore science machines due to the proximity of OSX to Unix. Most people in my field run Macs, and this field has won the most Nobels in Chemistry in the last 10 years (X-ray crystallography.)

Crystallography on OS X - OS X Scientific Computing

I think you're prejudiced and working with outdated information, but that's what I would expect.

In addition, I think it's quite hard to question the durability of just about any Mac product. I'm typing this on a 2012 rMBP that's seen more usage than just about any ThinkPad (Lenovo) machine in existence.

You sound like an elitist snob with a narrow mind but sometimes things written on the net come out wrong. I've owned both and now only work with ThinkPads. Simple economics and engineering. Do the math and count the ThinkPads vs MBPs here.



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Granted the US govt recently suspended ThinkPad usage on the ISS and has gone to HP laptops. Can your MBP do this?

Most space programme are obsolete. We can discuss the nuances at some other point.

I've got a research group to run that publishes quite well on Apple products. You started the aggressive conversation and can't really finish can you?

Your rebuttals consist of nothing more than boasts and disparaging comments. ThinkPads run OS X too.

I can say something good about any computer. In the above case, both are excellent machines. Mac biggest claim to fame is its unibody and lightness, and of course, industry leading customer service. Lenovo has move up significantly in recent times and challenge to be the largest manufacture in the world. Their computers have become very stylish, and cover a wide gamut from thin and light, to workstation.

I'm providing examples, albeit my own so it is boasting as well (feel free to contribute to such behaviour unless there is nothing to boast about). I'm pushing out papers that can't have a single calculation error, do you think I'm going to run a hackintosh? This is what happens when a sign is flipped.

Retraction | Science

I think you neither need to start providing examples or bowing out of the conversation as all of your commentary has been unevidenced by anything you've participated in. Maybe, I'm wrong here, but so far it doesn't seem like it.

In all fairness, it appears the retraction is due to an in-house reduction program which I interpret as software, not hardware. I ain't running a hackintosh either, but know it's possible to run OS X on a ThinkPad. I do run W7/W10/Kali/Arch/Debian on TPs and the batteries are replaceable by myself.

We'll agree to disagree. My bride is an artist who runs high dollar Macs. I know Macs are beautiful machines but at some point the money runs thin. In a perfect environment, nothing fails but we all know Murphy's Law too well and can only plan ahead.

No successful person would spend their own money on Mac. It's either by governmental grant or a depreciating business asset. It's not different than any other piece of lab or business equipment.