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no motor? 01-11-19 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 20743116)
I'd like to see if I can figure out changing the silicone mount for a cygolite-style mount which is all rigid plastic and easy-to-turn steel bolt.

https://www.rei.com/media/6fa7e180-e...5?size=784x588

The mount is the part I like the least, it doesn't look very sturdy at all.

OrenNoah 01-11-19 04:15 PM

It's been many years since I was a daily bike commuter. (San Rafael <=> San Francisco.) Obviously, technology is MUCH better today.

However, I came to realize that it was a necessity for me to have two headlights at night, one on my handlebars and one on my helmet. When I left the well-lit urban areas, I was on curvy unlit roads. When I went into a corner, the road went one way and my handlebars (and the light on them) went the other way. It's a bit sphincter-tightening to be descending in a corner and not being able to see the road at all.

With another headlight on my helmet, I could look into the turn and see where I was going.

I also realized another benefit from this. When going straight even in well-lit areas, when I would look at drivers approaching on side streets, I could instantly tell that they saw me when my light lit up their faces.

noglider 01-11-19 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by no motor? (Post 20743407)
The mount is the part I like the least, it doesn't look very sturdy at all.

Which don’t you like, the mount on the cheapie or the cygolite type? I don’t like the cheapie one, which shows it’s sometimes worth it to pay the premium to get something good. On the other hand, I keep the cheapies as spares, and they work as flashlights, so it was worth the small investment. It’s no less convenient as a flashlight than those $10-20 flashlights that take a 18650 cell, and they’re easier to charge.

angerdan 01-11-19 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by acidfast7 (Post 20743133)
KNOG blinder: used them for 5 years so far!

I use the Knog Blinder MOB Mr Chips V since 2015, the year in which it has been released.

acidfast7 01-12-19 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by angerdan (Post 20743600)
I use the Knog Blinder MOB Mr Chips V since 2015, the year in which it has been released.

Yeah, I use previous variants of the same idea.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1b20f57852.png
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fb5741a15c.png

blue192 01-12-19 02:59 AM

Two words: Cateye Volt. I would suggest the 800 due to full time night riding you want light. I no longer use the 800 as my primary light but it is still mounted to my helmet. :)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7cba3fa839.jpg

no motor? 01-12-19 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 20743456)


Which don’t you like, the mount on the cheapie or the cygolite type? I don’t like the cheapie one, which shows it’s sometimes worth it to pay the premium to get something good. On the other hand, I keep the cheapies as spares, and they work as flashlights, so it was worth the small investment. It’s no less convenient as a flashlight than those $10-20 flashlights that take a 18650 cell, and they’re easier to charge.

the cheap one. Nice idea, but it doesn't look very sturdy

cyccommute 01-12-19 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 20743116)
I'd like to see if I can figure out changing the silicone mount for a cygolite-style mount which is all rigid plastic and easy-to-turn steel bolt.

I don’t like the o-ring mount on the MagicShine clones so I have converted all of mine to this kind of mount . I find it to be much more stable. It wouldn’t be that hard to convert your light to the same mount. Alternatively, I’ve attached some lights directly to the slider mount by lopping off the ears and drilling a hole through the slider. You just have to use a bolt with a short head or a counter sunk one.

Here’s a not so good picture of the latter

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4776/...6f147d5b_k.jpg
DSCN0308 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

RidingMatthew 01-15-19 02:25 PM

i use a cygolite explilion 850 (850 luments on high) with an Orphos FLare pro (980 on high) on the front. I would not mind adding a light to my helmet but i switch back and forth depending on the temps.

cyccommute 01-15-19 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by RidingMatthew (Post 20749482)
i use a cygolite explilion 850 (850 luments on high) with an Orphos FLare pro (980 on high) on the front. I would not mind adding a light to my helmet but i switch back and forth depending on the temps.

The mounts I linked to above has a very nice helmet mount. It velcros through the vents and has a low profile. You might use the same converter for the MagicShine lights so that it can be tilted downward properly.

RidingMatthew 01-16-19 07:40 AM

Thanks [MENTION=21724]cyccommute[/MENTION] i think that the mounts you listed are great. I tend to switch back and forth between helmets depending on the temps and don't have to have to switch the light as well. I have thought about a cygolite Dart 350. i know a guy who put one that size on his helmet. It looked like it would mount pretty easy and doesn't weigh much.

robertorolfo 01-16-19 03:43 PM

Whatever light you use, please don't point it up into the faces of fellow riders passing you in the opposite direction...

parkbrav 02-15-19 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by sqwertl (Post 20575614)
I bike commute to work every day and with the days getting shorter, I wanted to see if anyone had a recommendation for a good bike light. I usually leave work at 7 or 8pm, so it's pitch black outside from October - February. Luckily I'm in Chicago so there are plenty of street lights, but these don't make me any more visible to cars (bike lanes just mean more space for them to attempt u turns) and there's tons of construction so I'd love to see the road more clearly to avoid bumpy damaged spots. I have been looking at NiteRider Lumina, but I have no experience in buying lights and want to make the best purchase. A good mounting system, bright wide beam, and decent battery life are my main focuses. Easy mounting and unmounting would be a plus, because I ride two different bikes depending on if it's snowing/rainy or clear outside.

I use Monkeylectric on the spokes. They do consume batteries but they illuminate well and stand up to the conditions.

I use 2 Cycle Torch "night owl" headlights, which each came with a rear light. The advantage to Cycle Torch lights is that they are charged by USB port on computers (or your USB-supporting surge protector).

madpogue 02-20-19 04:45 PM

I never understood how non-standard batteries are an "advantage". To me, having to take the light (or whatever device) out of service to charge the battery is a major disadvantage. That's why I find, for example, the spoke-mounted MonkeyLights to be at an advantage. It takes standard AAs. I run all NiMH rechargeables, so when the batteries are getting weak, I swap in a charged up set and charge the weak set. I even have several little two-up AA/AAA USB chargers, keep one in each desk drawer and each pannier/bag/pack/etc, so I can charge two at a time almost anywhere. In a pinch, I can go to any store and get a set of Alkalines.

RubeRad 02-20-19 05:35 PM

18640 batteries (commonly used in powerful LED flashlights) are not hard to find online (although I've never seen them in a brick&mortar store), and hold many many more mAh. The flashlight I use on my bike requires one 18650, I keep two in rotation, as you describe. For my usage, I charge at most weekly in the winter. My light also can take three AAAs next to each other in a triangle, if it comes to that. The light had a plastic adapter shell to hold them, I've never tried to use it, and it is surely long lost now.

Some LED lights take CR150 batteries, which are also commonly used in cameras, and I have found them in drug stores before.

madpogue 02-20-19 07:18 PM

Now this ^^^^^^ kind of flexibilty makes sense, especially if the device itself doesn't have to be used as the charger. Def. worth looking into.

Darth Lefty 02-20-19 10:31 PM

I guess I never had a problem popping the light off my bike to plug it into the work computer. I don't see how that's any better or worse than popping it off the bike to change a battery, be it rechargeable or not.

My headlight has an 18650 in it but it hasn't needed replacement yet.

GeneO 02-20-19 10:52 PM

I really liked my Lezyne megadrive. Great design, very bright at 1200 lumen, but it would just not fit in my cockpit with hydraulic brake cables etc. And their newer designs do not have the dame features (field replaceable lithium batteries and clever mechanism of waterproofing of the battery. They are still good I am sure,.

No I use a garmin varia Ut800. At 800 lumen it is not as bright as the Lezyne. Also the battery has a limited duration and is not field replaceable - but good enough for my 30 mi RT commute ( a good part on unlit paths and through woods in Chicagoland). Most important, It has a go pro mount and mounts under my garmin 520 mount. An added feature is it can be controlled by the 520 and has a number of different modes (including based on speed) and it has a good flashing mode for visibility that lasts a long time. The light can be taken off or attached easily with just a twist of the mounting ring (which you can see in the attached photo - the knurled ring above the light).. I can also mount it in my k-edge garmin mount on my road bike. You can mount it on any bar accessory that has the correct orientation go pro undermount.

Not sure if you are looking for anything like this, but thought I'd trow it in.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4a0a8bf44c.jpg

madpogue 02-20-19 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 20805076)
I guess I never had a problem popping the light off my bike to plug it into the work computer. I don't see how that's any better or worse than popping it off the bike to change a battery, be it rechargeable or not.

With a removable battery, you can pop in a fresh set and be up and running again with no downtime while the other batteries charge. If you've ever left a light on all day (or overnight) and come out to a light with flat batteries, you appreciate the option to swap batteries and go.

RubeRad 02-21-19 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by madpogue (Post 20804828)
Now this ^^^^^^ kind of flexibilty makes sense, especially if the device itself doesn't have to be used as the charger. Def. worth looking into.

Here's a picture and a link for the record. These lights have gotten crazy cheap, I paid like $10-15 a few years ago, now the light is even cheaper than a decent battery (I bought my pair of 18650 batteries separately from batteryjunction.com for like $7 each)

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KQQAA...zc/s-l1600.jpg


https://www.ebay.com/itm/CREE-T6-LED...szc:rk:32:pf:0

tcs 02-21-19 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 20804696)
18650 batteries (commonly used in powerful LED flashlights) are not hard to find online (although I've never seen them in a brick&mortar store), and hold many many more mAh.

My local Fry's brick&mortar stocks 'em. My Fenix BC21R bike headlamp (with its shaped beam) uses one.

RubeRad 02-21-19 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by tcs (Post 20806000)
My local Fry's brick&mortar stocks 'em. My Fenix BC21R bike headlamp (with its shaped beam) uses one.

OK, that's not surprising, but if you're out riding who knows where and desperate for batteries, you're much more likely to come across a convenience, drug, or grocery store.

tcs 02-21-19 06:08 PM

My Fenix BC21R will accept 2X CR123A in place of the 1X 18650. I see CR123A in the ubiquitous CVS corner drug stores in my area. Since I carry a spare charged 3400mAh Panasonic 18650, it's just a theoretical issue for me. YMMV.

RubeRad 02-21-19 06:26 PM

Is that a standard thing, that 2x CR123A can take the place of 1X 18650? I assume the size is right, so they can sneak right in like a tower of minions in a trench coat sneaking into the movies with one ticket. But does the electronics work out right (volts? watts? amps? ohms? currents? resistances? other electric words?)

madpogue 02-21-19 07:20 PM

^^^^ Current, power, resistance are functions of the LOAD. Voltage would vary with how the batteries are arranged. Your old high school physics info still applies. If the tw CR123As are stacked in series, the voltage would be the sum of the voltages of the two batteries. An 18650 is 3.7V; I'd have to look up a CR123A.

fietsbob 02-21-19 08:11 PM

If you work sitting at a computer or near a power outlet*, a USB recharged battery light would be practical as long as you trip does not exceed the battery run time

and if close get 2..

*Plug in USB power converter like your Phone Charger?





....

RubeRad 02-21-19 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by madpogue (Post 20806472)
^^^^ Current, power, resistance are functions of the LOAD. Voltage would vary with how the batteries are arranged. Your old high school physics info still applies. If the tw CR123As are stacked in series, the voltage would be the sum of the voltages of the two batteries. An 18650 is 3.7V; I'd have to look up a CR123A.

Yeah I do not have access to my old high school physics info. That part of my brain has long since calcified.

If 2 CR123As are filling the space of 1 18650, then they would be stacked in series (like a tower of minions in a trench coat (why does the internet have no picture like this? I could have sworn they did this gag in at least one of the Despicable Me movies!))

the webz does say it's in there, but not giving me pictures...
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...otemPoleTrench

ChrisWagner 02-22-19 07:13 AM

The LOAD or light in this case, regulates the power. A good load incorporates a good regulator or power converter for safe operation. A cheap load produces grief.


I like the 18650 cell. Long life and rechargeable. The high current capability of the 18650 must be respected though. Throw a fully charged cell into your pocket with keys and you'll have something like this ..,
A safe way to carry spare 18650s is found at walmart in the camping section
A re-purposed waterproof match case with a 18650 fit.
.

gregf83 02-22-19 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 20806416)
Is that a standard thing, that 2x CR123A can take the place of 1X 18650? I assume the size is right, so they can sneak right in like a tower of minions in a trench coat sneaking into the movies with one ticket. But does the electronics work out right (volts? watts? amps? ohms? currents? resistances? other electric words?)

Fenix recommends non-rechargeable CR123A only so really just an emergency solution. Voltage will be roughly double so you would need to turn down the brightness or it wouldn't last as long.

RidingMatthew 02-22-19 10:12 AM

i have two lights front and two rear. Last week on my ride in my rechargeable Cyglolite had died. I forgot to charge after a week of riding last week. luckily I had my charged 5000mAh battery pack running my Orphos Flare PRo Red. i might drop one of the lights/ batteries when it is warmer but in the dark ages of winter i like having the extra light and redundancy.


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