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Old 10-15-18, 09:02 PM
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What about a string of induction powered amber lights on the cranks (front and back).
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Originally Posted by zacster
Looking at those bikes I wouldn't exactly call them commuter bikes. I could ride my Kuota CF road bike to work too, but I wouldn't call it a commuter. Would you leave one of those bikes locked up to a lamppost in NYC? I wouldn't, and you'd never see it again if you did. Nobody pays any attention to mine, even though it has some expensive parts on it. You have to look closely though to realize it. That's not to say they wouldn't be nice to ride as a commuter, just not that practical here in NYC. For that matter, almost all higher end bikes you see here are road bikes. There isn't much use for a MTB here.
Read my post. A commuter bike is a bike that is commuted on. I assure you that I am using those bikes to commute to work. That, by definition, makes them “commuter” bikes that are suited to my needs. Just because they don’t fit the needs of someone who commutes in New York (or anywhere else) doesn’t make them something, well, impure.
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Bikes like that are available here but seem a lot more expensive since in dollars they’re into four figures.
Really.

£599 here should be around $650. Usually, we get screwed, not you guys. Also, our salaries are ****.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute


Read my post. A commuter bike is a bike that is commuted on. I assure you that I am using those bikes to commute to work. That, by definition, makes them “commuter” bikes that are suited to my needs. Just because they don’t fit the needs of someone who commutes in New York (or anywhere else) doesn’t make them something, well, impure.
I like the way you think, however, having space to have all of the tools and extra bits necessary for building/maintaining is relatively rare in Western Europe and most people live in an urban environment where a garage would cost more than 10% of their monthly wage. That's one reason that most bikes in Northwest Europe live outside for their lifespan.

Example, England ... 55M people (50,300 mi2 ... in the size of an average US state).

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What about a string of induction powered amber lights on the cranks (front and back).
Or pedals. Seems everybody is aware that moving lights are more effective than stationary, but not many use that info (including me)
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Turn signals.

I've seen a bike around here with a very ad-hoc looking (DIY?) set of turn signals mounted on the back of his rack. It would be useful I think to have a board like 2-3" high and extending 9 or so inches to each side of my rack with LED turn signals on, that I can activate from a switch on my handlebars.

That in addition to hand signals would I think 'signal' (that's a pun there) to cagers that I'm not a MAMIL scofflaw, I'm a commuter, I just want to use the public roadways subject to the same rules as everybody else, and at the end of the day get home safe.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad
Or pedals. Seems everybody is aware that moving lights are more effective than stationary, but not many use that info (including me)
My pedals are pretty tiny.

I do tend to lift the heel on the upstroke, so one might get a flashing effect with the pedals hidden from the rear, then visible on the upstroke.

However, I would really like LIGHTED SHOES. Oddly there seem to be lighted walking shoes and running shoes, but not cycling shoes.

I have been using a pair of Nightrunner 270 lights for a year or two now, and so far so good.

https://www.nighttechgear.com/

I get a lot of comments on them when people see me coming. But they don't wrap around the back well (see the little tiny red light on the side in the photo).



REI had some "spur lights" on sale, but unfortunately they weren't rechargeable, and had short battery life, and the whole thing had to be disassembled to replace the batteries. I'd rather a really good cuff light... just my last ones disintegrated.
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USB chargeable lights on elastic ankle-straps is probably the way to go.

But... I wonder if somebody could design a comfortable electric generator that is basically a near-flat biscuit under the insole, which exploits tiny amounts of compression every downstroke?

I heard once that somebody designed panels that sat on freeway sound barrier walls and were able to generate electricity from vibrations due to freeway noise.
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Really.

£599 here should be around $650. Usually, we get screwed, not you guys. Also, our salaries are ****.
Yes, really. I order bike parts from Germany because in the USA the companies are allowed to do vertical price fixing and from DE we don’t have to pay VAT. When this became prevalent Shimano responded with price cuts but SRAM responded with a crackdown.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty

Yes, really. I order bike parts from Germany because in the USA the companies are allowed to do vertical price fixing and from DE we don’t have to pay VAT. When this became prevalent Shimano responded with price cuts but SRAM responded with a crackdown.
If you call up a place in the UK or in DE (If you know some German), they'll ship the whole bike to you for a nominal amount (usually under $100).
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
If you call up a place in the UK or in DE (If you know some German), they'll ship the whole bike to you for a nominal amount (usually under $100).
I bought my kid a bike from Chain Reaction in Ireland. It would really have benefited from a once over by a bike shop... all four major bearings and the chain were cruelly over tightened
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I don't like a very poor (at least where I live) offer of reasonably built and priced rigid (no suspension) bicycles. With rim brake mounts, mudguard and rack mounts etc.
I also hate the decades long trend of relatively short chainstays ("aggressive", "rigid", "aero", "responsive" and similar nonsense being marketed for the short chainstay bikes).
Expulsion of road triples in favour of doubles, and a trend towards 1x road drivetrains as well.
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In general the selection of Trekking and city bikes as well as accessories is limited here in the US and when you find it it is often over priced. Here the market really focuses on the recreational riders on road road bikes, mountain bikes or beach cruisers. But when you want or need a bike for daily errands such as commuting or shopping, aka a utility bike, the selection is limited here in the US. Yes you get some stuff online but bikes stores normally don't carry stuff like utility bikes, dynamos, dynamo lights, internal gear hubs, great selection of fenders and racks, commuter cycling clothes ....
Lots of that you find in most bikes stores in Germany. Fortunately I have family in Germany which I visit once a year and who come here as well. So I order bicycle gear in Germany and have it brought or bring it myself. Last item a brought with me was a SON hub dynamo.
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Originally Posted by Harhir
In general the selection of Trekking and city bikes as well as accessories is limited here in the US and when you find it it is often over priced. Here the market really focuses on the recreational riders on road road bikes, mountain bikes or beach cruisers. But when you want or need a bike for daily errands such as commuting or shopping, aka a utility bike, the selection is limited here in the US. Yes you get some stuff online but bikes stores normally don't carry stuff like utility bikes, dynamos, dynamo lights, internal gear hubs, great selection of fenders and racks, commuter cycling clothes ....
Lots of that you find in most bikes stores in Germany. Fortunately I have family in Germany which I visit once a year and who come here as well. So I order bicycle gear in Germany and have it brought or bring it myself. Last item a brought with me was a SON hub dynamo.
That's my experience. Walking into a US bike shop these days is like going to a car dealership, finding nothing but Formula 1 and ATVs, and thinking, "where the hell are the real cars?"
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Flexible retractible 3ft clearance bar for riding in traffic that has no bike lanes. Retractible because you don't need it on trails or bike lanes.

Manual crank charger for rechargable dry cells and lithium battery packs.

Retractible sunglass shield that attaches to your bike helmet so you don't need to wear separate sunglasses.
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Good ideas, @Daniel4!

Bike shops do have commuter bikes here in NYC and probably other places where practical cycling is more common. But I haven't seen any hub dynamos in shops yet. The LBS a block from my home, now closed, was once the biggest Linus dealer in the US. He had Biria and similar brands, too. I think he carried a Dutch brand as well.
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Flexible retractible 3ft clearance bar for riding in traffic that has no bike lanes. Retractible because you don't need it on trails or bike lanes.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/283128099418?chn=ps
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That's my experience. Walking into a US bike shop these days is like going to a car dealership, finding nothing but Formula 1 and ATVs, and thinking, "where the hell are the real cars?"
That's because in the U.S., bikes are by & large recreational toys, and not widely seen as vehicles for transportation.
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The bike shops here in central CA have plenty of hybrids and townies. Bike commuting for exercise is popular. Not LCF... it’s still the burbs. Your town needs to be on board. If there’s nowhere to ride a commuter bike there’s no sense in doing it.

There’s a bike shop here in Folsom called Practical Cycle. They were once located in old Sacramento where they sold Yubas and Bromptons. Since moving they have recast as a Pedego dealer. They have every commuter accessory required.

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That's because in the U.S., bikes are by & large recreational toys, and not widely seen as vehicles for transportation.
Way to stereotype of a very diverse population of 320M+ people.

I might as well do the same with the EU and it's 512M inhabitants.
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Way to stereotype of a very diverse population of 320M+ people. I might as well do the same with the EU and it's 512M inhabitants.
it is true though for the most part most people see bikes as toys and not as viable transportation. If they did they would be using them as transportation and we would have more of a demand for the infrastructure. i think of the bike shops near me and they are for the most part pretty varied but I imagine many of the bike sold are for recreation vs transportation.



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it is true though for the most part most people see bikes as toys and not as viable transportation. If they did they would be using them as transportation and we would have more of a demand for the infrastructure. i think of the bike shops near me and they are for the most part pretty varied but I imagine many of the bike sold are for recreation vs transportation.



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@acidfast7 I don't really either but it can be shown by the lack of cyclists for transportation.. ps cant access google docs.
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That's a very interesting chart! I'm so amazed that Minneapolis has so many bike commuters.

A metric I'd like to see but I'm sure is not available is how visible bike commuters are. Even though only 1% of New Yorkers commute by bike, we are very visible in many parts of the vast city, and drivers are accustomed enough to seeing us that they behave fairly rationally around us. I hear that is not the case in New Orleans, yet their bike commuting rate is higher.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
Perhaps you are correct but I don't like stereotypes.

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Neither do I but this lists manifests that in my city people do not use their bikes for transportation. Plano TX is almost dead last on the list with 0.1% bike commuters. We have about 70 miles of trails in Plano and 60 miles in neighboring Allen where I work. My commute runs 30% on trails and 70% on suburban neighborhood roads with little to no traffic. But I hardly see any other commuters on bikes.
As an example: One trail runs right by our office building. We have bike racks in the parking garage so the bikes are in the dry. We have showers, lockers and a brand new gym inside the building. And still out of 500 employees there are two of us commuting by bike. But we have people bringing their road bikes by car/truck so they can have a quick ride during lunch time. lol
And for the upcoming election they have added three bonds to the ballot. A $600M and $100M bond to build and improve roads and a $10M bond for parks and trails. So no, it is no stereotype. You are considered normal if you use a 2 to pickup truck to haul your ass to work but you are crazy if you use a bicycle.
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