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Old 12-18-18, 04:10 PM
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stay on bike lane. turn right after intersection. stop on MUP even if green and wait for group (red arrow)
push walk/ride button. wait for green and cross second perp street (green arrow)




that cutting from the left turning lane to slow and get off to the right where a car can't get causes to risk points (both drivers fault but cyclist is dead).

A. cyclist assumes one bike as they can only see one in turning lane, thus whips around to cut in front of cyclist (this is what we saw in video)
B. car approaching fast at a yellow turn arrow and cyclist is very slow in left turning lane to get off at the right corner to mount the mup (and it's narrow and not flat) ... this would be even more dangerous.

my solution solves these and introduces the riders to the MUP light operation system, which is useful.

pats cyccommute on head again ... good job ... you're almost there ... next time ... woof woof
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Old 12-18-18, 04:11 PM
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The logic of hours spent analyzing a videotape of an illogical incident that happened to somebody else for the purpose of winning an argument on an internet discussion forum? I like a good challenge as much as the next guy, but “hooboy”. KOM awarded.
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Old 12-18-18, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Wait a minute! Those guys aren't slowing down for cars to their left. No pausing of cadence or grabbing for brakes or any of the things you said the guy with the flat didn't do (even though you couldn't tell one way or the other from the POV video). Or is it only those of us who drive on the right side of the road who have to slow for perpendicular traffic?
there are (almost) no stop signs in the UK, everything is a merge and you fail your test for slowing down ... never impede the cadence of traffic ... alway suse indicator.

pats head (nice try cyccommute) ... maybe we you housebroken we can bring you on holiday with us to Europe ... should have to remain at home by yourself all alone ... isn't that right cyccommute ... that's a good boy ... woof woof.
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Old 12-18-18, 04:14 PM
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I used to stream BBC radio through my headphones at work. It never occurred to me that it’d be great music for riding. Not that I wear headphones while riding. But for somebody who did.
I spent 3 days in London of 7 in England. England seems like a nice place to ride a bike, like in general. Like maybe some parts of London maybe not, but in general, pretty nice. Excepting cobblestones.
nah man, you want FM4 live (much better).

it's here ...

https://fm4.orf.at/player/live
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Originally Posted by Phamilton View Post
but “hooboy”.
Can we get this said aloud.

It could be who-boy almost like woo-boy.

Or hoe-boy almost like whoa-boy (to a horse).

Which is it in Amish?
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Old 12-18-18, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
Can we get this said aloud.

It could be who-boy almost like woo-boy.

Or hoe-boy almost like whoa-boy (to a horse).

Which is it in Amish?
Yeah it’s sort of like that, just say like a cowboy would say “yee hah”, upward inflection on the “who” and a softer, lower “boy”, sort of swallowed. The Amish don’t have a different word for it and they say it the same way.
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Yeah it’s sort of like that, just say like a cowboy would say “yee hah”, upward inflection on the “who” and a softer, lower “boy”, sort of swallowed. The Amish don’t have a different word for it and they say it the same way.
yeah, but is it WHO-boy or HOE-boy? that's the question at hand my friend.
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Old 12-18-18, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
yeah, but is it WHO-boy or HOE-boy? that's the question at hand my friend.
Who, like I said. Hoo. From Grant’s Blagh:


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got it:

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Hoe-boy was my high school nickname. And no, I don’t want to talk about it.
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Old 12-18-18, 04:49 PM
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I used to live near a street called "Hoes Lane".

Even better, there was still an older street nearby that it replaced, still called "Old Hoes Lane"
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finally a commuting thread that's moving.

yeah, that double parked car seems dangerous, although I did get what I wanted as the cyclist slowed appropriately, like I would expect.

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Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
finally a commuting thread that's moving.

yeah, that double parked car seems dangerous, although I did get what I wanted as the cyclist slowed appropriately, like I would expect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGhu43x-ci0
I was disappointed, very light on the Schegerfrâggen.

I’d have gone between the double parked car and the one at the curb. Full speed. Covered in honey.


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Old 12-18-18, 05:04 PM
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I was disappointed, very light on the Schegerfrâggen.
That's the point. I got exactly what I wanted, one would even think that it's me even (oops.)
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Old 12-18-18, 05:18 PM
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That's the point. I got exactly what I wanted, one would even think that it's me even (oops.)
You set me up then let me down. I thought I was gonna get my Schaden-fix.
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Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
stay on bike lane. turn right after intersection. stop on MUP even if green and wait for group (red arrow)
push walk/ride button. wait for green and cross second perp street (green arrow)
In an ideal world you'd expect this from your idea


Left 1 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

However, that requires a high degree of coordination from the cyclists and, in my experience, this is what would happen with 8 bikes if you tried it.



left 2 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

Hell, that would happen with 3 bikes. With 8 at least 6 of them are going to be pointing in the wrong direction. Your idea won't work and is less safe then what they did in the video.

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that cutting from the left turning lane to slow and get off to the right where a car can't get causes to risk points (both drivers fault but cyclist is dead).
Turning from the left lane onto the bike path isn't optimal as I've stated before. However, the car has to wait for the traffic in front of it as it would for a wide turning truck. If the truck had to slow or stop or back up, the car driver couldn't expect to go around the truck. The same applies for cyclists. The motorist must yield to traffic in front of it, no matter what that traffic is doing.

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A. cyclist assumes one bike as they can only see one in turning lane, thus whips around to cut in front of cyclist (this is what we saw in video)
I think you mean motorist. But that doesn't matter. The motorist in this situation was well aware of the number of bicycles in front of them. They just thought they could bully the cyclists by going around them. He got caught doing a dick move and was completely and totally wrong.

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B. car approaching fast at a yellow turn arrow and cyclist is very slow in left turning lane to get off at the right corner to mount the mup (and it's narrow and not flat) ... this would be even more dangerous.
Again, motorist aren't allow to take the right-of-way from vehicles in front of them. The motorist would be in the wrong and it would be their fault.

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my solution solves these and introduces the riders to the MUP light operation system, which is useful.
I'm not sure what "MUP light operation system" you are talking about. There doesn't appear to be a separate system for cyclists in this video. Those are rare in the US and, frankly, mostly unnecessary. Follow the signals and ride like a vehicle. That's the way to "educate" drivers on how to behave around cyclists. Your solution just reinforces their ideas that bicycles have no right to the road.

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Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
there are (almost) no stop signs in the UK, everything is a merge and you fail your test for slowing down ... never impede the cadence of traffic ... alway suse indicator.
Nor are there stop signs on the road the cyclist was riding on in the flat video...at least not for the cyclist. There are also no laws that I know of that say you have to slow at each intersection. So why is the guy in the video a jerk who deserves a flat while the riders in your UK video "good cyclists". Under your rules, they should be slowing for the traffic merging onto the road way. Or, at least, breaking cadence and preparing to stop...just in case.
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Could also be said that forums are final refuge for people who don’t win enough arguments IRL.

Edit: I like forums, though. I always feel like the dumbest person in the room and I’m no good at arguing. But I still like ‘em.

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Not much discussion about flat tires.... Closed.
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