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Old 01-25-19, 08:49 PM
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Where to find steel rear rack?

I have a custom ebike that I made with a Magic Pie, which I use to commute to and from high school. I have mounted a milk crate to a rear rack to hold my backpack and other cargo. I have had my current aluminum rack for more than a year now, but my previous rear alunimum rack split at one of the welds. Since weight is hardly an issue for my bike, I'm interested in a rack made of steel that for sure will not fall apart, but I cannot seem to find any racks made of steel tube. Wald makes a rack of steel rod, but I doubt that it would be any stronger than alunimum tube. Has anyone ever seen or heard of heavy duty steel pannier racks?
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Old 01-25-19, 09:42 PM
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Check out Surly.
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Old 01-25-19, 10:17 PM
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I think the Burley Moose is also steel.

Also... Tubus.

Do you have a local bike store that specializes in utility/touring bikes?
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Second to Tubus: Tubus website

Their racks are almost all steel (except the one that is titanium). And they are steel tubing, not solid bars. Their racks are tremendously strong for their weight.

The heavy-duty models are the Tubus Cargo Evo and Tubus Logo. There are medium-duty models like the Tubus Vega. And then there are the lightweights like the Tubus Fly Evo and the titanium Tubus Airy.

But here's the kicker: Even the Tubus Fly Evo, which weighs about 1/2 pound, can carry 20kg. That's the light-duty model. The heavy duty Tubus Cargo Evo has been tested to 40kg, and only weighs about 1.25 pounds.

I have a Fly Evo on my Cannondale Synapse, and a Cargo Evo on my Cannondale Quick CX, so I have firsthand experience with both of them. The Fly Evo is stronger than any aluminum rack I've owned previously (but I've owned cheap-o aluminum racks). And clearly the Cargo Evo is considerably stronger still.

The racks aren't cheap, and they're a little hard to find. I got my Tubus Fly Evo new in original packaging on eBay, and got my Cargo Evo slightly used on eBay.
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Tubus racks are awesome. Surly, overengineered and clunky, so might be perfect if you figure your ebike gives you carrying capacity to spare. Surly racks might cost more than comparable Tubus though.
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Their racks are almost all steel (except the one that is titanium). And they are steel tubing, not solid bars. Their racks are tremendously strong for their weight.
I will say that the only bike rack that I've ever broken was steel. I had it re-welded, and re-broke it the next day.

But, that was an old solid rod steel. The new tubular racks are much better.

There are also a number of smaller companies that either are using, or have worked in tubular steel.

Bruce Gordon?
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Old 01-26-19, 04:53 PM
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Tubus...

But seriously there's no reason aluminum should be failing vs steel. Something they fail because they're a cheap poor made rack. I'd suggest buying a better aluminum rack, like from Topeak.
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I have the Wald rack. It's pretty tough.
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Originally Posted by Snikerdoodlz View Post
I have a custom ebike that I made with a Magic Pie, which I use to commute to and from high school. I have mounted a milk crate to a rear rack to hold my backpack and other cargo. I have had my current aluminum rack for more than a year now, but my previous rear alunimum rack split at one of the welds. Since weight is hardly an issue for my bike, I'm interested in a rack made of steel that for sure will not fall apart, but I cannot seem to find any racks made of steel tube. Wald makes a rack of steel rod, but I doubt that it would be any stronger than alunimum tube. Has anyone ever seen or heard of heavy duty steel pannier racks?
As others have said, Tubus is what you want if you want steel. But not that if friction from your pannies/luggage or their rack-mount-hardware wears through paint/powdercoat...you'll get rust.

Ofc, to avoid that means stainless steel racks...which probably means spending more $$$ than you want.
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As others have said, Tubus is what you want if you want steel. But not that if friction from your pannies/luggage or their rack-mount-hardware wears through paint/powdercoat...you'll get rust.

Ofc, to avoid that means stainless steel racks...which probably means spending more $$$ than you want.
Unless the OP is commuting through salt water on a daily basis, a little rust won't hurt the rack for a couple of decades. Unsightly? Maybe... but it may be buried under the load.
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I have tubular aluminum racks from Cannondale, Topeak, Axiom, even one Trek rack, all rated between 20 and 25 kg.
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I can testify that Tubus stainless steel is remarkably resilient. After 7 years of daily beatings and overloading, my Fly SS still gets the job done with total panache, albeit with some mild deformations from crashes and the insistent rubbing of panniers.
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I have a steel Tubus Cargo Evo on my go to hauling and more heavy duty touring bike. Great rack. Recommended. No top deck so this one stays on that bike w/ fenders.
https://ortliebusa.com/product/cargo-evo/

We have 6 Toba aluminum racks that have all held up very well under heavy use. 2 front, 3 rear w/ top deck, 1 rear w/ integrated fender. All of them have been loaded down much of the time touring, commuting, errands by bike, kids hopping on the back, etc.

Several of my friends have the Surly steel racks. Very heavy duty and durable, but well, heavy. 'Specially the Surly front rack but don't think this matters to them.
https://surlybikes.com/parts/cargo/rear_rack

Another friend has the Salsa Wanderlust HD rear rack. Very nice steel rack and this one is usually in stock at my LBS.
https://salsacycles.com/components/c...erlust_hd_rack

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TUBUS makes the best stuff on the market in steel AND aluminium.
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Either you got a bad model or you got a lemon. Lots of aluminum racks work just fine, and some are even overbuilt. Tubus racks are top notch, but you don't have to spend that much to get something that lasts. Rudi mentions Wald, and I'm sure that one is steel. Generally, Wald products are tough and inexpensive, so maybe that's your best bet. But don't be married to steel.
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Check out the Racktime racks as they are pretty inexpensive and seem to work well! I have one on my commuter ebike and one on my wife's road bike. Here is the model I have.
https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/...QaAsMVEALw_wcB
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Other steel or stainless racks not already mentioned are made or rebranded by: Soma, Velo Orange, and- saving the best for last- Nitto. But yeah, all relatively expensive.

Why not go with an "if it's not broken, don't fix it" attitude, and hold of on buying a steel rack until your current aluminum one breaks? It may be good enough. I think newer tubular aluminum racks are probably stronger than the old 8mm solid rod racks. Not only are they stiffer- which means less bending stress on the welded joints- but there is more weld area.
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I have a Jandd rack on all three of my bikes. Not one of them is less than 20 years old. My Expedition has been on several heavily loaded bike tours, grocery hauling even heavier, I have even stood on it many times to take photos at events. I weigh 155 lbs.

It is aluminum. You don't need steel. You do need to spend money.


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TUBUS makes the best stuff on the market in steel AND aluminium.
...at least now that Bruce Gordon retired and so is making no more racks,,
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The Wald rack is only $15, and I bet it's quite sturdy.
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The Wald rack is only $15, and I bet it's quite sturdy.
Good value:money.
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