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Old 02-06-19, 12:28 PM
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washing cloths...sniff test

Okay so...I was reading lifehacker...and found out most people change out their cloths alot less often that I do .

Like I throw my shirt and pants into the laundry basket each day. Seems like most people wear outer shirt and pants for a few days before going to the wash. I do notice my cloths gets old and faded quickly.

Looking for ways to save money and the environment...

I have separate bike shirt and pants/shorts for commuting. I can only go 2 days...before it fail my sniff test...eventhoug now the weather is cool. I still sweat.

I can probably still wear it eventhough it stinks...who's going to get close enough during commuting to smell it anyway...I change as soon as I get to work.

How many days does your cloths last before wash?

I wonder if pushing the limit by wearing "dirty" cycling cloths a few more days...can cause medical problems? Bacterial? Skin fungus?

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I don't sweat much during winter, so jacket rarely gets washed, unless it gets dirty by some other mean. Fleece gets washed once a week or if it smells, whichever comes first. Base layers are washed every ride as they are next to the skin.
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I always put on a fresh pair of bibs. Re-wearing them is a recipe for monkey butt. Jerseys are another issue, particularly in winter, double particularly if I've worn a baselayer.
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How many days does your cloths last before wash?

I wonder if pushing the limit by wearing "dirty" cycling cloths a few more days...can cause medical problems? Bacterial? Skin fungus?
I tend to change a couple times each day, usually. More, if getting completely sweaty and/or soiled during activities. Keeps me cleaner, better smelling, reduced risk of bacterial/fungal issues.

Doing that does take a stronger "hit" on durability of the clothing, though, given the number of increased washing cycles the stuff goes through across a year. Fading colors, in some cases, increased wear along seams and "high" spots, reduced durability of buttons (or, the sewing attaching the buttons). But, for me, that's a good trade.

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My (outer) work clothes easily go 2-3 wearings without laundering. I work in an office and do not sweat excessively. I commute in work clothes when the temp drops below 40°F or so. Underwear, undershirts, and socks get changed daily.

The secret is to change out of the work clothes, and let them hang and air out for at least a day before wearing them again. (BTW - this is especially true for shoes - letting them dry extends the life).
The second secret is to not spill things on them, but I'm not as good at that.
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The secret is to change out of the work clothes, and let them hang and air out for at least a day before wearing them again. (BTW - this is especially true for shoes - letting them dry extends the life).
That is good info. I never thought of that.
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The secret is to change out of the work clothes, and let them hang and air out for at least a day before wearing them again. (BTW - this is especially true for shoes - letting them dry extends the life).
Yes, letting things air out as soon as possible definitely helps with smells and stuff.

In terms of durability during wash cycles, you should consider avoiding the dryer, or just drying them slightly and then letting them air-dry while still damp.
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I wear work clothes twice if I haven't perspired, hanging them up in between. Workout clothes including riding get hung up in the bathroom until dry, but I won't wear them again unless I've neglected laundry. IMO the "sniff test" is insufficient, since even if they smell OK in the morning, after you warm them up and get even a little damp the bacteria begin to prosper and they'll start to stink.
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Okay so...I was reading lifehacker...and found out most people change out their cloths alot less often that I do .

Like I throw my shirt and pants into the laundry basket each day. Seems like most people wear outer shirt and pants for a few days before going to the wash. I do notice my cloths gets old and faded quickly.

Looking for ways to save money and the environment...

I have separate bike shirt and pants/shorts for commuting. I can only go 2 days...before it fail my sniff test...eventhoug now the weather is cool. I still sweat.

I can probably still wear it eventhough it stinks...who's going to get close enough during commuting to smell it anyway...I change as soon as I get to work.

How many days does your cloths last before wash?

I wonder if pushing the limit by wearing "dirty" cycling cloths a few more days...can cause medical problems? Bacterial? Skin fungus?
Washing clothes is what really wear them out (as well as drying.)

You should be getting 3-4 days/wear of a pair of trousers.

Also, I find that clothes get dirty/sweaty very infrequently and that putting clothes in the freezer is much better for their durability/longevity and much better for the environment.

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/...really-have-to

Most shops in Stockholm recommend at least six months before the initial wash so that they can stretch and conform to your leg dimensions. We wear them tighter over here.

https://www.businessinsider.com/levi...14-5?r=US&IR=T

Also, you're freezer needs to be cold enough. We usually dump them in the -80C.
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Freezing instead of washing sounds crazy radical. I don't know. Maybe it works well.

In the colder half of the year, I wear a merino wool t-shirt under my shirt. I wear the same one every day and wash it once a week, sometimes less often. By the time I put it in the wash, most times it still doesn't have a smell.

I change my dress shirt every one to three days, depending on how it's doing.

I wear a pair of pants about four times before washing.

Underwear and socks are changed every day. It's certainly disgusting to wear underpants more than once, but for my health, it's even more important to change my socks, as I tend to grow yeast. It's completely invisible on me, but I'm concerned about developing fungus on my toenails. I never wear cotton socks, as it retains water. I usually wear wool socks and sometimes wear synthetic socks.

Laundry detergents have advanced a lot. It is now perfectly fine to wash everything in cold water, and this is easier on clothes as well as the environment and the heating bill.
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Freezing instead of washing sounds crazy radical. I don't know. Maybe it works well.

In the colder half of the year, I wear a merino wool t-shirt under my shirt. I wear the same one every day and wash it once a week, sometimes less often. By the time I put it in the wash, most times it still doesn't have a smell.

I change my dress shirt every one to three days, depending on how it's doing.

I wear a pair of pants about four times before washing.

Underwear and socks are changed every day. It's certainly disgusting to wear underpants more than once, but for my health, it's even more important to change my socks, as I tend to grow yeast. It's completely invisible on me, but I'm concerned about developing fungus on my toenails. I never wear cotton socks, as it retains water. I usually wear wool socks and sometimes wear synthetic socks.

Laundry detergents have advanced a lot. It is now perfectly fine to wash everything in cold water, and this is easier on clothes as well as the environment and the heating bill.
I agree that it sounds weird. It was a huge deal in Stockholm. Also, in Europe, people wash less regularly (humans and clothing).

How often do clothes really get dirty when one thinks about it? Unless it's a spill or such? In the summer I was very loose clothing (usually linen as Levi's India has some excellent options) and shorts.

Most raw denim shouldn't be washed for the first six months like stuff from these guys.

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Underwear + socks - change daily. The rest when they get dirty. Bicycling gear depends on the weather. If it is hot, as in +29C, rinse shirts and shorts daily. Shoes - hot weather, once a week in the washing machine.
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Oh man, the freezing jeans thing. That's been a few years. https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/02/s...er-use.html?hp

I have little kids, so my clothes are always stained. Soon acidfast7 will join that club.
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Bike Touring I bring 3 pair of bike shorts, to have a, clean pair to put on every morning..
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Well yes, washing does put wear and tear on the fabric. Then again, so does wearing them. In my case fading shows up long before the fabric fails.

My coat/jacket can go the season since they're used for covering more than wearing. Since its on the outside, it depends on the environment, i.e. an air-conditioned office vs a dusty worksite.

Simply put, outerwear are effected by the environment, while underclothes by your body. Anything that touches the skin, I wash those after each use since you expire even in low temperatures.
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with the gym, cycling & a 2nd job, (don't bike commute anymore) I generate enough laundry on a daily basis to do a load, a day, sometimes medium load sometimes large, but I do skip some days. my washer/dryer is in our master bath, so it's convenient. just replaced my dryer timer so it's all good. basically, if it touches my skin, it gets washed, w the exception of cycling pants cuz I wear trishorts under them, so they just hand inside out. t-shirts, base layers, socks, under wear, gym towels etc get washed after every use. gloves, knit hats & balaclavas get hand washed w Dawn dish soap in the kitchen sink as needed. sturdy stuff goes in the dryer, the rest gets hung up around the house in appropriate areas. if I do the load early enough when I get home, the trishorts are dry by morning, but I have several pair anyway, so I alternate. but do use them at the gym as well, under gym shorts, so sometimes I will grab a pair from the dryer rack for the next day's gym bag. if something absolutely will be sitting over night, I'll rinse & use some hand soap on underarm & crotch areas, twist the water out & leave them damp in a pile 'till they get washed the next day
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Yes, letting things air out as soon as possible definitely helps with smells and stuff.

In terms of durability during wash cycles, you should consider avoiding the dryer, or just drying them slightly and then letting them air-dry while still damp.
That was then. Nowadays, dryer have thermostats that can precisely adjust the temperature to keep you clothes safe. Some can even be set to tumble with no heat.

On the other hand, if its sunny out and your intent is to save the planet, then use the sun for zero environmental impact. Although your neighbors might have something to say if you have your unmentionable hanging off your balcony railing.
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I may be considered to be at the gross end of the spectrum.

At work I keep jeans and shoes in a locker, and each day bring a fresh polo, socks, and briefs, all of which go in the hamper at the end of the day. The jeans get brought home to wash maybe monthly. By that time they don't smell, but they probably have a couple food spills on them.

I ride to/from work in athletic shorts, boxer briefs (different than my all-day tightie-whities), an athletic T, and different socks and shoes. All the riding gear is hanging in the locker all day before I put them back on to ride home. I'll go a few days of rides on the same boxer briefs, and a few weeks on the same shorts. I don't care if I stink while I ride, but if I do notice a smell, I change it up for the next ride. Also I don't ride hard. Me riding to work is the same level of effort of taking a walk.

For cold weather I have a couple jackets/quarterzips that get washed maybe monthly. For really cold weather I have a merino sweater I bought from Salvation Army maybe 2-3 years ago. I haven't washed it yet, and it smells fine. Smells like merino wool.
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Speaking of freezing, we had a "game" at our block party a few years ago, called the frozen t-shirt contest. T-shirts were saturated with water, folded, and then frozen. Each player would somehow unfold the shirt and put it on. First to wear a shirt wins. I played, and it was very painful to my hands.
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Oh man, the freezing jeans thing. That's been a few years. https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/02/s...er-use.html?hp

I have little kids, so my clothes are always stained. Soon acidfast7 will join that club.
It never really stopped in Europe. People still freeze clothes as it makes environmental sense (namely water usage).
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That was then. Nowadays, dryer have thermostats that can precisely adjust the temperature to keep you clothes safe. Some can even be set to tumble with no heat.

On the other hand, if its sunny out and your intent is to save the planet, then use the sun for zero environmental impact. Although your neighbors might have something to say if you have your unmentionable hanging off your balcony railing.
Tumbling is what damages the clothing due to friction with the tumbler (even on the new Samsung/Miele wash/dry in a single machine options).

Most of the UK doesn't dry clothes in a machine (they're hung inside and/or outside).

Examples:

https://www.google.com/search?safe=s...mg.eRCrmQzs2KU

Why waste the energy/water to dry clothes in a machine?
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It never really stopped in Europe. People still freeze clothes as it makes environmental sense (namely water usage).
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Also, you're freezer needs to be cold enough. We usually dump them in the -80C.
How many Europeans have access to freezers that "are cold enough" (-80C.) for this task?
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Well, Stockholm is pretty cold to begin with.
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My base layers and underwear gets washed daily while I take a shower in the evening. It's dry the next morning. ...My other clothing items usually get washed every 3 weeks to 1 month depending on when my laundry day is... Things like jeans and jackets don't need frequent washings, once per year is enough.
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I heard a while ago from somewhere that jeans are meant to be washed once every six months or so.
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