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Old 05-15-19, 12:18 PM
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Abus Granit X-Plus 54 vs Kryptonite New York Lock


Abus Granit X-Plus

  • 13mm shackle
  • Handsaw 124 sec
  • Grinder 230 sec

Kryptonite New York


  • 18mm shackle
  • Handsaw258 sec
  • Grinder 118 sec

I have the NY lock std 16mm, it is a monster 4lbs ... so heavy. Thinking about getting a Abus Granit X-Plus 54 Mini which is only 1.6lbs

My question


  • why is the Kyrtonite stronger against handsaw, but weaker to a grinder?
  • Conversely, why is the Abus stronger against a grinder, but weaker to a handsaw?
doesn't make sense to me.
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University PHD in materials science & Mechanical engineering, department question..


some may ride bikes..


look for a website , that gets manufacturers to give them revue samples ,
which they submit to destructive testing using power tools and so forth ..







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Get both, and it will take them 5 minutes to steal your bike. Plus youíll be out a couple hundred bucks for the locks. And hope they donít bring bolt cutters and a pry bar.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
University PHD in materials science & Mechanical engineering, department question..


some may ride bikes..
someone else mentioned that it seems data for Abus locks got inputted wrong on the chart, their values were swapped.

charts says 230s for grinder and 124s for handsaw, but probably meant 124s on grinder. Which is more in line with the Kryptonite grinder time of 118s


Originally Posted by alan s View Post
Get both, and it will take them 5 minutes to steal your bike. Plus youíll be out a couple hundred bucks for the locks. And hope they donít bring bolt cutters and a pry bar.
I have both now. But going to use the smaller/lighter Abus for my short stops to the grocery store etc. Every single lock can be defeated by grinder in less than a minute or two so why bother carrying a heavier lock. I'll use both locks probably only at work or something to make the next bike near by easier target lol

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Old 05-16-19, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hisamatsu View Post
someone else mentioned that it seems data for Abus locks got inputted wrong on the chart, their values were swapped.

charts says 230s for grinder and 124s for handsaw, but probably meant 124s on grinder. Which is more in line with the Kryptonite grinder time of 118s




I have both now. But going to use the smaller/lighter Abus for my short stops to the grocery store etc. Every single lock can be defeated by grinder in less than a minute or two so why bother carrying a heavier lock. I'll use both locks probably only at work or something to make the next bike near by easier target lol
Yeah, my critical thinking cap has me there with you - can't imagine there's many materials more easily cut through with a hand saw than a motorized grinder.

I have the Abus 540 as well - nice lock, definitely lighter than my wife's New York Standard. Just don't drop it because that shell over the lock goes apart easy.

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I've used both, and one of the biggest differences in my experience is the lock cylinder itself. My Kryptonite would stick all the time, especially after rain. The Abus is still smooth as butter after years of use. Both were regularly oiled with a lock specific lubricant.
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I've used both, and one of the biggest differences in my experience is the lock cylinder itself. My Kryptonite would stick all the time, especially after rain. The Abus is still smooth as butter after years of use. Both were regularly oiled with a lock specific lubricant.
Which did you use? I still need to pick some up. Did y our Kryptonite have the slide-over for the lock, or just an open hole?

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I have a Granit Bordo in a small town with a few useless tweakers ..

who would not buy a grinder instead of more crank.
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I have the Abus 540 as well - nice lock, ...Just don't drop it because that shell over the lock goes apart easy.

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I removed the plastic shell from my Abus, better that way
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I removed the plastic shell from my Abus, better that way
Isn't the housing used to protect against the elements? Keyhole cover springs close and plastic housing protects against corrosion?
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Isn't the housing used to protect against the elements? Keyhole cover springs close and plastic housing protects against corrosion?
The Abus lock components all appear to be galvanized, I've been using the lock without the plastic casing or lubrication for years, no sign of corrosion anywhere, the locking cylinder is working beautifully, and I prefer the leaner industrial look.
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Bare metal is just going to be hard on your bike's paint, that I believe is the purpose of the plastic covering..

But your call ..
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Bare metal is just going to be hard on your bike's paint, that I believe is the purpose of the plastic covering..

But your call ..
Abus does not encapsulate the U-part of the lock, which typically has more contact with the cycle frame while locked; if they did I would let it be. The locking case has less contact, at least the way I secure my steed.
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I got the Bordo instead...
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Bordo user here as well.

Withstood bike as car replacement in Frankfurt for 3 years.

Can't recommend enough as it folds up and mounts cleanly in a water bottle holder position.
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where I live, guys cut your frame and carry the bike away, then sell all the parts ....

get good locks but most importanly, get proper bike insurance ....
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