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SPD Pedals for Commuting
Wrapping up the restore of a classic 90s MTB for a commuter and am looking for pedals. I prefer something with SPD and would ideally like clips on both sides but would also like to be able to pedal without cleats for short rides. I am looking at both the DMR V-Twin Clipless Pedals and the SHIMANO Saint PD-M820 and wondering if they would work. Both seem to have a decent sized platform with pegs that can be installed for extra grip. Also, the Shimano PD-M324 but they only clip on one side and I have a feeling I'll get tired of butter side down problems. Can anyone offer an experienced opinion? Thanks!
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I use the shimano A530s on my commuter bike. 90% of the time I'm using chrome spd shoes, but it's nice having the option for flat pedals when you don't want to wear special shoes. Never had any issue with them and they have good power transfer.
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I've tried several styles of pedals:
The single sided SPD pedals (A600) seemed about the best road-style SPD pedals out there. And I used them for years on my road bike. I don't prefer them for commuting. But for road cycling they're pretty easy to get into. ...but SPD-SL are more comfortable on long rides. The SPD-SL pedals have won me over for road cycling. On long rides they do a better job at avoiding hot spots. They're pretty easy to get into. Sometimes they find the wrong-side up, but I'm pretty used to them now. OneUp Composite: These are platform only pedals, and they have grippy little bolts protruding on either side. My feet stay put in them almost as well as clipless pedals, but without the bother of clipping in while commuting. I use them with regular shoes so I don't have to carry a set of work shoes and a set of biking shoes on my commutes. Sometimes I'll even take the long way home, which is 22 miles, and they're just fine on rides of that length. If I were looking for maximum efficiency and long-hours on the bike, SPD-SL would be the way to go. And that's what I use on my road bike. But for commuting 4.5 to 22 miles (depending on which way I go), in traffic, with a laptop in panniers, I just prefer the platform pedals. I wouldn't go back to clipless on my hybrid / commuter / utility bike. |
Shimano PD-T700 or PD-T400. The two models are part of the “Click’r” line which are supposedly an easier release design. They come with SH-56 cleats which are multi directional release. I crank them down a bit tighter than regular SPDs and can spin as aggressively as ever and never pull off unexpectedly.
I’ve owned and used many different Shimano SPD pedals and I really don’t notice any difference between the T400/T700 Click’r and any other SPDs. I do like the multi directional release for quick disengagement for commuting. I bought the Click’rs for the reflector feature because, why not? The platform part is kinda nice too. The T400 is kinda clunky looking and the T700 is a more angular style — I like the look of the T700s, but that’s a matter of taste. The pedals are user serviceable with rebuild kits available online. Shimano makes a single sided Click’r model but I’m not a fan of single sided designs. -Kedosto |
I have a folding bike with M324 pedals that I mainly use with normal shoes and have no complaint about them. When used with cleats I can't feel any difference with the M520 I have on my other bikes, except for the fact that you have to look to which side you have to attach. Not a big deal.
They're not light, but they were cheap to buy. |
I had used toeclips for years, and thus unaccustomed to "flats".
So, my conversion to clipless was quick and complete. I don't think I've ridden further than a mile at a time without the clipless. So, my choice is standard single, or double-entry SPD without flats. For those rare occasions that I'm using street shoes, I can just pedal on top of the SPD pedals. |
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I use these Shimano 647 pedals on a few bikes. Double sided SPD and I find them comfortable when using sneakers or other flat shoes. I presume that they are still being sold. |
Maybe take a look the Flip III pedals from issi.....they have a nice platform on one side and SPD on the other. I like that they have replaceable pins on the platform side. In the "Flip" series, I think it's only the III's that have the replaceable pins. They're not inexpensive pedals, however.
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I used a set of Shimano A530s for commuting for about eight years. They are flat on one side, SPD on the other. They work great. They consistently fall into the same orientation when off the pedals, so clipping in is always the same motion even though they aren’t double sided. I recommend them if you want the option of a flat pedal.
However, over eight years I only used the flat side a handful of times and I decided to try a dual sided SPD pedal instead. I got the Shimano M540 because it was small and lightweight. However, I found that on long rides I was more prone to getting hot spots on my feet because the smaller pedals didn’t provide as much support around the cleat. I also found that the reduced amount of contact area between the pedal and the lugs of the shoe allowed for more play than I liked while I was pedaling. I have since taken off the M540s and replaced them with the Saint M820s. I got these because they offered the largest contact patch between the pedal and the sole of the shoe. They’re pretty much the opposite of the M540s: big and heavy with lots of contact area. I’ve only had them for two months and haven’t done any all day rides on them, but so far they’re working fine. I also considered the XT M8020 which have a slightly smaller contact patch but are lighter weight. To round out my pedal comments, on my non-commuter bike I have a set of Shimano A600s. These are single sided SPDs. For whatever reason they’re not quite as easy to clip into as the A530s. I tend to hit the wrong side of the pedal more often on the A600. However, they are lightweight and they have a good contact patch. I would recommend these for road riding but not for commuting. |
"Butter side down" is a great way to describe the drawback of the M324 pedal. They are well-made and everything, but I loaned my pair to my brother years ago and haven't wanted them back.
For my money, double-sided pedals such as M520 along with comfortable MTB-style shoes or touring sandals are the way to go for commuting. That way, you can walk around normally and comfortably when off the bike, and you don't have to worry about which side of the pedal is up when clipping in. This is especially nice if you commute on a fixed-gear, as I do. Put the foot down, and it'll clip in. |
I used to ride the Wellgo pedals that look like the Shimano SPD-M324. Then I got the Shimanos. I love them. I sometimes wear street shoes, and they work fine. I don't find the platform to be slippery. The Shimano mechanism is much more precise and reliabler than the cheapo one.
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I have a530 on my commuter for past 10 years or so. Most of my riding is on the spd side and I rarely have difficulty getting in because they really do fall to the same orientation every time. When I ride the flat side it indeed is a bit slippery, but it works for the occasional ride to grocery store or something where I want to be wearing regular shoes.
I've tried a few varieties of pedals with both spd and platform on each side, they always seem to be the worst of both worlds so I won't do those again. |
I've been running 324's on my commuters for years. They always flip the same way, so it's no big deal to clip in, the platform side works just fine with any shoes I've used on them. They are heavy but also look more "period correct" on my C&V bike.
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Another option would be the new E500 replacement for A530
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I use the Shimano PD-T8000 on my 1 bike that i ride for commuting and road/gravel. It's SPD on one side and a good studded flat on the other side. Fairly happy with it overall and i'm pretty used it now and able to find the right side 95% of the time. Not cheap though at ~$100.
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Originally Posted by AZ4Mtb
(Post 21238373)
Wrapping up the restore of a classic 90s MTB for a commuter and am looking for pedals. I prefer something with SPD and would ideally like clips on both sides but would also like to be able to pedal without cleats for short rides. I am looking at both the DMR V-Twin Clipless Pedals and the SHIMANO Saint PD-M820 and wondering if they would work. Both seem to have a decent sized platform with pegs that can be installed for extra grip. Also, the Shimano PD-M324 but they only clip on one side and I have a feeling I'll get tired of butter side down problems. Can anyone offer an experienced opinion? Thanks!
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M-324s work great. A little on the heavy side, but very durable and a good compromise pedal.
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I’ve used SHIMANO both sided SPD for years and like them very well.
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Originally Posted by alan s
(Post 21262560)
M-324s work great. A little on the heavy side, but very durable and a good compromise pedal.
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i've been using the Forte Campus pedal (combo SPD/platform), on a variety of my bikes for over a decade now.
maximum versatility, good performance, extremely durable, relatively lightweight, and at $40.00/pair, quite a good value, IMO. |
happy w the FUNN Mambas on my road bike. Used them to commute 44 miles round trip but mostly just joy rides. Big platform on one side which I find handy in traffic & starting from busy traffic lights
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I use the A600 Shimano pedals in my Velomobiles which are my main commuter bikes. They have been reliable and have worked well. On my winter studded tire bike I use flat pedals as it’s easy to where boots or even NEO overshoes which really help keep my feet warm in cold temps. I use SPD’s (both sides) on my mountain bikes and Wellgo flat pedals with spikes on my e cargo bike and Shimano road pedals on my road bike.
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I’m not in clipless mode right now, but when I am, I like my PD-T400’s
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Those EH500s look pretty sweet, I'm going to check em out.
Originally Posted by DorkDisk
(Post 21262261)
I'm really liking the Shimano EH500. The flat side is very grippy and the pedal is balanced for the SPD side, so running flats requires a flipping motion. Mine came with the multi release cleats, so watch for that - apparently it is an option.
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Originally Posted by daoswald
(Post 21238404)
...SPD-M424 - Clips on both sides, platform on both sides. Fine for SPD use, but uncomfortable for regular shoes...
Originally Posted by daoswald
(Post 21238404)
...The SPD-SL pedals have won me over for road cycling. On long rides they do a better job at avoiding hot spots. They're pretty easy to get into. Sometimes they find the wrong-side up, but I'm pretty used to them now....
As to the "butter on the wrong side", one only has to rotate the crank 180 degrees and meet that pedal in the new spot, and the cleat will be up. Easy. |
SPD Pedals for Commuting
Originally Posted by AZ4Mtb
(Post 21238373)
Wrapping up the restore of a classic 90s MTB for a commuter and am looking for pedals. I prefer something with SPD and would ideally like clips on both sides but would also like to be able to pedal without cleats for short rides. I am looking …
Can anyone offer an experienced opinion? Thanks!
Originally Posted by CliffordK
(Post 21238586)
I had used toeclips for years, and thus unaccustomed to "flats".
So, my conversion to clipless was quick and complete. I don't think I've ridden further than a mile at a time without the clipless. So, my choice is standard single, or double-entry SPD without flats. For those rare occasions that I'm using street shoes, I can just pedal on top of the SPD pedals.
Originally Posted by bpcyclist
(Post 21221178)
”Do you disregard traffic laws during your commute?”
...Almost all Stop signs I come to a complete stop at, because, where I ride, these are places motorists routinely blow through. There is, however, one Stop sign on one of my routes that is in a deserted part of town… I can easily see fifty yards both directions and I routinely run this Stop sign because it is just a deserted area and there is no need to stop and re-clip. In my view, that is. I don't like clipping out and in 5000 times on a two-hour ride. It seems unnecessary. But I do it. Am now very proficient at clipping in. It is a ton of starting and stopping in town. But it is required most of the time.
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 21221198)
Indeed it is a pain to clip / unclip/ clip / unclip…
When I occasionally do a multimodal commute, bike ~ 2 miles to train in the city, train to an outlying suburban station, then cycle ~ 5 miles to work , I wear regular running shoes for the urban segment though the downtown, and bring my cycling shoes for the suburban segment. Otherwise the full cycle commute of about 14 miles through MUP, residential, and early morning light commercial routes does not require many, sometime no stops. BTW, I previously posted:
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 20684422)
"Clipless pedals or not"'
On further reading, I noted the right vs left unclipping discussion. We have plenty of curbs and I unclip right. In fact, when I'm on the left side of the road, left foot unclipping seems awkward. I first to thought about it when I started riding with a regular companion, and he always unclipped left. |
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 21221198)
Indeed it is a pain to clip / unclip/ clip / unclip… When I occasionally do a multimodal commute, bike ~ 2 miles to train in the city, train to an outlying suburban station, then cycle ~ 5 miles to work , I wear regular running shoes for the urban segment though the downtown, and bring my cycling shoes for the suburban segment.
Otherwise the full cycle commute of about 14 miles through MUP, residential, and early morning light commercial routes does not require many, sometime no stops. Nonetheless, while clipping and unclipping takes a moment of thought, it is not that big of a hassle. A quick twist of the ankle and one is out. And, with some practice, I can often hit the cleats while pedalling. Someone posted that rolling stops are now legal in Oregon. I suppose I've been doing them for a while. Stopping when necessary, rolling when not. And, even when stopping, sometimes dropping to a very slow roll instead (with a heart beat away from unclipping as needed). I try not to carry two pairs of shoes, except for walking shoes if I'm planning on being off the bike for the full day. And, I keep a pair of shoes at Mom's house as it is a frequent destination. |
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 21221198)
Indeed it is a pain to clip / unclip/ clip / unclip…
When I occasionally do a multimodal commute, bike ~ 2 miles to train in the city, train to an outlying suburban station, then cycle ~ 5 miles to work , I wear regular running shoes for the urban segment though the downtown, and bring my cycling shoes for the suburban segment. Otherwise the full cycle commute of about 14 miles through MUP, residential, and early morning light commercial routes does not require many, sometime no stops...
Originally Posted by CliffordK
(Post 21268637)
Living near a smaller city, much of what I consider city center urban is probably what you consider suburban, and what I consider suburban would be what you consider way out in the boonies.
Nonetheless, while clipping and unclipping takes a moment of thought, it is not that big of a hassle… A quick twist of the ankle and one is out. And, with some practice, I can often hit the cleats while pedaling… I try not to carry two pairs of shoes, except for walking shoes if I'm planning on being off the bike for the full day. And, I keep a pair of shoes at Mom's house as it is a frequent destination.
Originally Posted by daoswald
(Post 21238404)
I've tried several styles of pedals:
The single sided SPD pedals (A600) seemed about the best road-style SPD pedals out there. And I used them for years on my road bike. I don't prefer them for commuting. But for road cycling they're pretty easy to get into. ...but SPD-SL are more comfortable on long rides. The SPD-SL pedals have won me over for road cycling. On long rides they do a better job at avoiding hot spots. They're pretty easy to get into. Sometimes they find the wrong-side up, but I'm pretty used to them now… But for commuting 4.5 to 22 miles (depending on which way I go), in traffic, with a laptop in panniers, I just prefer the platform pedals. I wouldn't go back to clipless on my hybrid / commuter / utility bike.
Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
(Post 21266777)
I use these on my "commuter" bike, plus the metal caged one on my MTB. I use the single sided 234s (?) on my touring bike. I always ride in cleated shoes, however.
My thoughts exactly, SPD-SL for any performance-type road bike. I really like them… As to the "butter on the wrong side", one only has to rotate the crank 180 degrees and meet that pedal in the new spot, and the cleat will be up. Easy. Sometimes though on an incline upwards, from a stop with both feet free and unclipped, it can be a problem to get enough forward momentum to rotate the pedal and clip in, and the cleat is slippery on the wrong side of the pedal. On a couple of occasions I banged my shin on the pedal. I tried riding with cleat covers for traction on such short distances, but I’ve lost two separate cleat covers doing that, and I prefer the “old soft shoe” routine. |
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 21268820)
Sometimes though on an incline upwards, from a stop with both free and unclipped, it can be a problem to get enough forward momentum to rotate the pedal and clip in, and the cleat is slippery on the wrong side of the pedal, and on a couple of occasions banged my shin on the pedal.
I tried riding with cleat covers for traction on such short distances, but I’ve lost two separate cleat covers doing that, and I prefer the “old soft shoe” routine. My first attempt on those rides took, me to Brynwood where I found myself over-geared and under-prepared for the pull (20% to 30%). And, I took more than a few driveway rests/restarts. And, restarts were tricky, needing to be clipped in for both pulling and pushing. |
I have SPD on one side/platform on the other, but only because I don't always love wearing my cycling shoes on rides with my kids which can turn into playground visits/library visits/convenience store runs/hikes, you name it, not because I commute on the platform side.
I always commute with SPD side, never had a problem getting out. If out and need to get back in real quick I just choose not to worry about it until I am through the intersection or whatever. My shoes have thick lugs so they grip either side of the pedal ok until I can get situated. I ride in the city but it's LONG stretches on MUP/dedicated bike lane with only 1 serious intersection. I may have different points of view if I was going through more stoplights. THAT SAID - I just ordered a new bike and, with it, hot pink platform pedals (my daughter talked me in to it) SO we'll see how I like riding those for a while. If I hate it, I'll just throw my SPD pedals back on and call it good. |
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