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Old 01-02-06, 11:45 AM
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Thought some of you might get a laugh out of this as I probably looked pretty foolish standing in the lobby at work in tights, cycling shoes, and a helmet, yelling at this guy but I had had enough.

I've been bicycle commuting to work almost exclusively for the last 5 months and during that time the majority of problems I've had have been with co-workers.

But, there has been one person in particular that has stood out. This person is always running late (he has to be there earlier than me), usually parks in the carpool parking even though he doesn't carpool and makes a mad dash for the door to clock in in time. In the last few months he's right hooked me a few times pulling into the parking lot and run a 4 way stop numerous times. Well this morning, I pulled up to the same 4 way stop and was preparing to go as he comes blowing through.

I'm furious and refuse to stand for it anymore and enter the work lobby in a huff where he is standing there talking to a co-worker. It's on and there's an audience.

Me: *name* was that you that ran the 4 way stop.

Him: no *looking bewildered*

Me: That wasn't you driving the silver Nissan Altima that blew the 4 way stop at 12th and Grovers?

Him: Uhhhhh, yeah, but there wasn't anybody....*I cut him off*

Me: Yes, there was! I was the cyclist on your right that you were supposed to yield to had you actually stopped. Not only that but I'm the same cyclist that you've right hooked a few times in the past few months and has watched you blow that stop numerous times.

Him: What do you mean?

Me: What part didn't you understand, the blowing the stop sign or right hooking me pulling into the park lot?

Him: Uhhhhhhh

Me: I realize that it's you're world and we mearly live in it, but do us all a favor and leave for work a couple minutes earlier so that we can all arrive safely.

End of conversation.

Probably not the best way to handle it, but I'm hoping that I embarrassed him badly enough that he'll be a bit more observant. As for embarrassing myself...I walk into work in tights every morning..enough said.

Any other good co-worker encounter stories?
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I think you handled it really well except for the finish.

You should have killed him.
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I get lucky. I get to park in the parking garage with the rest of the cars, and since everyone knows me, I usually get some good natured ribbing, but cars make way for me and everything.

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Actually you handled it a lot better than I would have. I'm glad you're aware enough to know you can't trust cagers to actually stop at four-way stops.
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rawkin' way to deal with it. The other option is a baseball bat but I'm not sure you want to do that.
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Originally Posted by michaelnel
I think you handled it really well except for the finish.

You should have killed him.
A slow and painfull death!


You did good SteveAZ!
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Nothing wrong with blowing up in public from time to time...sometimes a good public tongue lashing does wonders for some idiot. You did better than I would have...I would have made some reference about ripping his head off and spitting down his throat if he ever put me in danger again. Good job!
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
I usually get some good natured ribbing, but cars make way for me and everything.
Same here. Most of my comments are about my tights. I think most everyone is just jealous they don't have a body like me. Or can't ride their bike to work 18 miles. Or that they sit in traffic everyday and I don't. Suckers.

OP, definitely did a good job.
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Originally Posted by SteveAZ
Any other good co-worker encounter stories?
Yeah, I had been in front of a fellow more than once at a four lane streetlight maybe 100 yards from the left turn into work. I take the left lane behind other cars since I pull into the turning lane almost immediately. Only have had trouble with this individual. Car isn't special, but the honor roll bumper stickers were. Three of them, three elementaries. He would pass me and force me into the curb during the left turn. First time he parked in the far back lot. Second time he took a street parking spot within my sight. At the door I asked him what was the big idea on cutting me off at that corner? He told me in a threatening voice that bicycles don't belong on the street. I told him they do and let it go. He called me a bigot (you guessed it, I'm a caucasian).

I have many copies of the state regulations regarding treatment of bicycles by motor vehicles at my desk. The first line is "bicycles have all the rights of motor vehicles". I highlighted some appropriate passages, wrote a nasty comment about "I know your license is _____, and you'd better begin treating cyclist with respect because you now have been reported to the bad drivers site. Which was true. I put it under his windshield. At when I knew he was getting off work, I watched from a window near my desk.

First he ranted to the security guard (who all know me, and know I follow the laws) who later told me that he tried to explain to the guy that he shouldn't worry about passing a bicycle, how many seconds did he save? Three? Then he spent about 20-30 minutes ranting to everyone that came out that were I'd guess his friends. I only think he stopped when big Ivan (a big harley rider) who gave him a loud ration basically merging mistreatment of bicyclist with motorcyclist.

I've seen him several times since at the same light and he always leaves a decent gap and no longer gives me a hassle. I think the key was limiting my confrontation and letting the paper do the talking.
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Very well done.
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Originally Posted by GrodyGeek
He called me a bigot (you guessed it, I'm a caucasian).
By calling you a bigot he was actually complimenting you on your choise of clothing. Bigot is actually shorthand for Big Orange Tights. Where Big is a compliment meaning "cool" sort of the way phat is used to describe something good....

yeah I ain't got any material for this one...
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Originally Posted by GrodyGeek
I think the key was limiting my confrontation and letting the paper do the talking.
Nice work! That was probably the better way to go about it, but today I guess I wasn't as cool headed as I should have been.

He is giving me a pretty wide berth though. Hopefully that'll carry over into his driving.

......and I haven't been called in to HR yet but there were plenty of witnesses that I didn't get carried away. (no profanity or threats)
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Well done
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Yep...proud of you!
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Any other good co-worker encounter stories?
no. not since i sent round the company-wide email threatening to spit in the milk i was bringing from home every day unless people stopped helping themselves to it for their coffee. your style was much better than mine.

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I think the key was limiting my confrontation and letting the paper do the talking.
i don't know. i'd guess the key was him trolling for sympathy against you among a bunch of other people who also told him to learn some manners. but he probably wouldn't have resorted to that if you hadn't used the paper method (making it impossible for him to do his ranting at you).
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Cops...
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I've always wondered about motorists who are always in a hurry.......Are they such peons/bottom dwellers in life that being a few minutes late results in getting "chewed out" by the boss or even worse, "You're FIRED!"?

It's one thing to be punctual but it's inexcusable to jeopardize other motorists/cyclists/pedestrians' lives just to get someplace on time. Most of these speeding, impatient motorists are usually late anyways: total losers!!!
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Well done!

you are a better men than I am. I am a vindictive prick and I would have done a more discreet and expensive revenge on him.
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Originally Posted by Crank It Up
I've always wondered about motorists who are always in a hurry.......Are they such peons/bottom dwellers in life that being a few minutes late results in getting "chewed out" by the boss or even worse, "You're FIRED!"?

It's one thing to be punctual but it's inexcusable to jeopardize other motorists/cyclists/pedestrians' lives just to get someplace on time. Most of these speeding, impatient motorists are usually late anyways: total losers!!!
This is "normal" in our society. Ask anyone how long it takes to get from Point A to Point B. They always seem to give a time that couldn't be met at the speed limit if they drove on empty roads with all traffic lights green. I guess most people cram way too much into their days, and try to flit about getting it all done. It's no wonder that even the people that look healthy have heart attacks.
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You should've pranked him with a tire iron...

Or pulled up next to him with your .44 and been like, "Looks like you won, G." He'll say, "won what?" That's when you whip it out and be like, "you won the wet t-shirt contest m**********r!"

Either way, you win!












Realistically though, if he does this so much, you might want to have a cop give him a little pep talk...
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Or pulled up next to him with your .44 and been like, "Looks like you won, G." He'll say, "won what?" That's when you whip it out and be like, "you won the wet t-shirt contest m**********r!"
Wouldn't that be the wet pants & seatcover contest?

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Not after you pump his chest full of lead it wouldn't...

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Wouldn't that be the wet pants & seatcover contest?
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[QUOTE=Crank It Up]I've always wondered about motorists who are always in a hurry.......Are they such peons/bottom dwellers in life that being a few minutes late results in getting "chewed out" by the boss or even worse, "You're FIRED!"? QUOTE]

Unfortunately, those people who are that low in the pecking order are those who have the most to lose or can least afford a disruption in cash flow. Moreover, the lower you are, the more likely you are to have an insecure and uncaring manager. We have a rule at our hospital about not leaving campus for lunch. The only staff who are forced to follow that rule are (you guessed it) housekeeping staff. That burns me up. Now, I realize that this is no excuse for dangerous driving. I also realize that it could be argued that people who take the initiative to go to school forever should get more perks. But the sad truth is that many people in that position are not born into this life with the same cognitive capabilities as the majority of people in better positions. And I find that very sad and unfair. In my experience, those who are on the bottom rung work very very hard for their meager incomes and put up with more crap than you or I have to. If I had a son or daughter who was born with diminished reasoning capabilities, I would be very disheartend thinking of how he or she would likely be treated as they tried to struggle through life with their very unfair disadvantage.

Sorry for the rant, I guess I am a softie. Like I said, this is no excuse for unsafe driving.
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It sounds like your performance was warranted. Not much you can do about the stop-sign blowing, except be vigilant, as it sounds like you already are. However (and I realize I'm risking trollitude here, although that is not my intention), I wonder if there's anything you can do differently to head off the right-hook temptation. You don't say how much of the lane you are usually taking when he right-hooks you. Perhaps if you moved closer to the middle of the lane approaching the intersection, it would at least make him think twice about whether he can safely pull back in front of you or not, and maybe even physically prevent him from doing so. Is he pulling around you and immediately back in front? If you are riding far enough to the right to make him think of you as a separate lane, perhaps he's thinking that he has the right of way, especially if he gets to the intersection first that way.
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In my formative years I used a valve stem remover on a really impatient driver at a pick up point where I used to work.

2 tires, one on each side.

Luckily the guy continually pissed off about 1/2 the people in the building, so when management was brought in, know one cared.

The guy changed his tone. Never really bothered anyone again.


That said, I wouldn't do that again.

Your confronting him in public, in front of a co-worker was good...
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