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Old 03-10-06, 04:49 PM
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Do you let people talk you out of cycling?

Last night, we had a bit of snow (not too much) but my wife was so panicked that I'd get hit by some wacko who lost control of his car that I agreed to drive today. Although out of control cars are always a concern for me on slick surfaces, the real reason I didn't resist much today is that the hot water doesn't work where I shower off (nothing like a cold shower when you arrive half frozen) and my legs hurt because I've been riding too hard this week. So I swam for my exercise today.

It occurred to me that had I caved in like that in the past, I'd have no commute. My route was the subject of several arguments as was the topic of riding along said route at night. My wife has gotten used to my commute with time and normally worries just about the right amount (i.e. not enough to raise a stink about the commute, but enough to think that getting me an HID headlight is a good idea and that I should have the best tail lights available).

How often do you let people talk you out of a ride (if ever). I really hate missing my ride, but I'm trying to gauge where the line between holding out to do the right thing and being an obstinate jerk is.
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Old 03-10-06, 05:13 PM
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I talked my wife into riding. Now she'll ride in -30c with a nasty headwind. She's realized its no big deal and relatively safe. The key was to subtely challenge her into doing it. This way her reward was the satisfaction of seemingly proving me wrong. The best part is, now she's really smug when her coworkers react in disbelief when she pedals in during a blizzard.
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Old 03-10-06, 05:28 PM
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We had half a foot of snow last night in my my suburb of vancouver, rare for here. I awoke in a quandry, do i ride in, drive, decisions decisions. I dont have a snow bike, just my regular with slicks.

My wife was tossing my bike clothes at me saying i'll be fine.

As i left out the back door for my bike i noticed she was flipping through the insurance papers....
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Old 03-10-06, 05:32 PM
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That snow must have been pretty widespread. We got it too. My wife didn't say anything this time, but the Wednesday night with snow, rain, hail and wind she tried to tell me not to ride the following day. What I can't understand is that I rode Thursday even though it was crappy and icy, but wimped today when it was just wet snow, which is all gone now.
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Um, no. A before/after cholesterol test should clear up any lingering doubt.
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Old 03-10-06, 06:40 PM
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I certainly wouldn't be talked out of riding at night. I'm most visible at night. Of course, a ton of cycling fatalities happen at night, but nearly 100% of them are people with no lights, possibly no reflectors, and dark clothing. Cars would be dangerous to drive too if they had no lights and were black.

The people who are most worried are those who have really no idea what they're talking about. I've noticed that the people at work who seem to think I'm crazy don't look like they've gotten 10 minutes of exercise in the last 10 years.
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Old 03-10-06, 06:49 PM
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Steev, and it turned out to be the sunniest ride home in a month LOL
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Old 03-10-06, 06:57 PM
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yes but I don't listen. One of the best commutes I ever had was after a snowstorm rolled in, plowing through snowdrifts on the way home.
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Old 03-10-06, 07:31 PM
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On the snow, that's hard for others to understand, it's a tough call. I don't know where the line is, but maybe this will help.

Tell her that by comparison to this idiot on BikeForums you are safe and careful. Then show her this…….

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=white

About the dark, did you already take her outside at night and show how visible your bike is in the dark? That was helpful for me.
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Old 03-10-06, 08:15 PM
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No snow here. I probably wouldn't ride in it. Too cold. I have had people try to talk me out of riding in traffic. But fortunately my BF admires me for doing it.
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talked out of cycling? only every time (4 times a week) my girlfriend is too tired to commute the 1/2 mile home to her place! i drive her like the sucker i am. *whip cracks* this is possibly the greatest source of bike guilt i have right now.
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I've been talked out of bike commuting on a couple of occasions, and to be honest, I felt like a wimp the whole day and regretted it.

I didn't ride on Thursday because of the snow but not for lack of trying (too much slush and no fenders on my beater MTB which is the only bike I feel comfortable riding in the snow). I rode today though - it was too warm here in Portland for the snow to cause any problems.
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Old 03-11-06, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Last night, we had a bit of snow (not too much) but my wife was so panicked that I'd get hit by some wacko who lost control of his car that I agreed to drive today.So I swam for my exercise today.
Unless you're really passionate about cycling, I think it's probably a good thing to get some other form of exercise from time to time. Variety is the spice of life, etc. But if you don't enjoy other types of workout, you'll appreciate your bike even more after giving it a miss a couple times.
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Old 03-11-06, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Last night, we had a bit of snow (not too much) but my wife was so panicked that I'd get hit by some wacko who lost control of his car that I agreed to drive today. Although out of control cars are always a concern for me on slick surfaces, the real reason I didn't resist much today is that the hot water doesn't work where I shower off (nothing like a cold shower when you arrive half frozen) and my legs hurt because I've been riding too hard this week. So I swam for my exercise today.
Winter cycling in Ottawa isn't so rare that people freak when they hear about it, and my life-partner has long ago given up on panicking about the various things I do (he just makes sure my life insurance is paid up!). More often than not when I get someone worried about my cycling in the current weather/road conditions, it's someone between "acquaintance" and "friend" - someone who knows me well enough to express concern, but not well enough to know better. The last time was in late December at a Christmas party. This guy went on at length about the need for me to be careful getting home. It got beyond the normal "get home safely" bit, and ticked me off. I pointed out that I knew it would be snowing hard, so I had left my bike at the "Pedal & Ride" racks at a bus station near home and bussed downtown just in case I was out late and the weather was worse than predicted. He still went on about how "dangerous" it could get out there. I got ticked off, and pointed out that I was riding a bus down the Transitway (bus-only freeway) for 20 minutes then had a 5 minute ride home. He had a two hour drive home, some of it by country roads that wouldn't see a plow for days. I also pointedly looked at his wine glass and asked how he would feel if I questioned his ability to drive home safe.
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I always make the call myself. 3 or 4 inches of snow is my limit. A solid glaze of ice from freezing rain will shut me down too.

I rode home in the first freezing rain storm of the winter this year. I didn't answer the phone call from my wife. She was going to suggest a rescue.
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Old 03-11-06, 10:20 AM
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One night when blowing snow brought the visibility down to dangerously low levels a co-worker approached me and said it would be "his pleasure" to put my bike in his truck and run me home. I have bummed rides off of co-workers under similar conditions, and I do drive to and from work when blowing snow reduces visibility to unsafe levels. Other than that, I've become more and more committed to cycling to and from work no matter what the weather.
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Anytime the weather is gross, or an after-work function has run long, people will always ask if I want a lift home. I think it's thoughtful of them, but I always say "Pffft! 3 pints isn't enough to slow me down!" and stumble to my bike.

The only time I can remember accepting a ride in a car instead of riding my bike home was in May of '99. I rode to this cute girl's house because she asked me to "fix her bike" [nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more]. Much to my surprise, I actually had to fix her bike. An hour later, she offered me a ride, so I accepted. We stopped by the velodrome on the way home, then continued on to my place. I asked her out, then BAM! Six years later we're married. I don't need to get married again, so I guess I won't be accepting anymore rides...
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Old 03-11-06, 04:31 PM
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The wife does not want me riding at night in the rain. Night is OK with a 50 watt head light and rain is ok, this AM she pushed me to get a new REI Novara rain jacket at the local store. Now I have to patch the old Performance rain pants as REI no longer makes the yellow rain pants. I just check their web site; they do show matching pants with a 15% discount inf you buy both at the same time. I am about to have a few eWORDS with them.

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Old 03-12-06, 01:13 AM
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I'd much rather ride in a cold non-slushy snow than in pouring rain. This day out was actually cold, but enjoyable.
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I don't understand the question. How could someone talk me out of riding a bike?
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Originally Posted by oilfreeandhappy
I'd much rather ride in a cold non-slushy snow than in pouring rain. This day out was actually cold, but enjoyable.
Jim, you've also proved with that picture that you are much more capable of handling a bicycle than President Bush is. And he wasn't riding on snow....
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Um, no. A before/after cholesterol test should clear up any lingering doubt.
Yeah right. It depends on how often you get the test done. It takes an awful long time to show results and then usually in raising LDL but not in lowering HDL by much. After 2 years and many thousands of miles it may help, but don't depend on a few miles of biking to hit those numbers hard.
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Old 03-13-06, 11:51 AM
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Steev, and it turned out to be the sunniest ride home in a month LOL
The weekend would have been great riding too, and I still didn't get out until commuting in the cold this morning.
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The line is between you and the panicky car drivers.

Even in a place as placid as Palm Springs I had both my wife and my father(a former bicycle commuter himself) trying to talk me out of it. I'm an experienced bicycle commuter. I persevered and both came to accept it, especially my wife when she did the numbers and realized that if I were to get a car, our income/outgo ratio would plunge into the red. So literally, my bicycling to work was the difference between financial stability and the screaming horror of mounting debt.

Trust your judgement. From what you've said, it sounds solid. The roads may be so icy that you don't want to do it. I'm sure you will know when its best to drive.
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My family has accepted my bicycling addiction and no longer tries to talk me out of any biking I do. But when it's too icy or snowy or windy (in the morning my commute is about due west into the prevailing winds) I ride two and a half miles south to downtown, take the bus west, and then ride another half-mile to work. Almost always by evening the streets are ok for riding and if the wind is blowing it's a tail wind. It's worked well for me on several occasions this winter.
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