Awesome discovery for Timbuk2 Classic Messenger bag users and hydration bladders...
03-21-06, 08:08 PM
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It already has a "pocket" for a 100oz camelbak Omega bladder, vefore those even existed!
If your has the row of internal pockets on the other side of hte front pockets...try sticking the bladder behind that. I found the way they secured those pockets made for a tubular opening behind it, allowing me to fit a 100oz bladder back there with no problems at all.
It does make the bag feel funny when putting it on, but the thing does seem to stay put. It also gives for a bit more tube length than just plopping it in the bottom of the bag does. I'm going to give it a ride test tomorrow, to and from work. This could be the beginning of a beautiful thing, as I've been tinkering around for a while with modification ideas to mount a bladder inside of my Timbuk2. I do suspect it might need some minor stitching around where the tubing end of the bladder is, to keep it from sliding out when less than half full, but I'll test that this week.
As for tube retention while riding...velcro straps hold hte tube in two places, then it slides under the sternum strap clip, and from there I just pull the mouth piece up to drink, then tug the tubing from down near the bag flap to retract it when done. it's not perfect, but it works pretty well so far. I've tried that one for the past two days with much success...but the bladder was just sitting in the bottom of the bag, so tubing length was an issue.
If your has the row of internal pockets on the other side of hte front pockets...try sticking the bladder behind that. I found the way they secured those pockets made for a tubular opening behind it, allowing me to fit a 100oz bladder back there with no problems at all.
It does make the bag feel funny when putting it on, but the thing does seem to stay put. It also gives for a bit more tube length than just plopping it in the bottom of the bag does. I'm going to give it a ride test tomorrow, to and from work. This could be the beginning of a beautiful thing, as I've been tinkering around for a while with modification ideas to mount a bladder inside of my Timbuk2. I do suspect it might need some minor stitching around where the tubing end of the bladder is, to keep it from sliding out when less than half full, but I'll test that this week.
As for tube retention while riding...velcro straps hold hte tube in two places, then it slides under the sternum strap clip, and from there I just pull the mouth piece up to drink, then tug the tubing from down near the bag flap to retract it when done. it's not perfect, but it works pretty well so far. I've tried that one for the past two days with much success...but the bladder was just sitting in the bottom of the bag, so tubing length was an issue.
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Better in the chrome bags.
Cause they actually have a slit that allows you to get between the liner and the outer shell where you can stick your hydration pack.
Cause they actually have a slit that allows you to get between the liner and the outer shell where you can stick your hydration pack.
03-22-06, 02:45 PM
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Well, it turns out to work, but is less than optimal.
The bladder does try to slide out (fixable with some stitching), and it makes it hard to look inside the bag, since it keeps pulling the pockets down.
That said, I might have to work on another idea.....this was pretty cool though, and I will continue to use it like this until I have a better version.
The bladder does try to slide out (fixable with some stitching), and it makes it hard to look inside the bag, since it keeps pulling the pockets down.
That said, I might have to work on another idea.....this was pretty cool though, and I will continue to use it like this until I have a better version.
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that's a decent field mod, but I'd be worried about it sliding around too.
I've always used the gap for sticking a folded spare and other goodies I don't want in the way.
unfortunately, a year of hard use has caused the stitching that attaches the inner pouch to separate a bit, so watch it if you'll be sticking a full water bladder in there.
I've always used the gap for sticking a folded spare and other goodies I don't want in the way.
unfortunately, a year of hard use has caused the stitching that attaches the inner pouch to separate a bit, so watch it if you'll be sticking a full water bladder in there.
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Yeah, after my first unloaded trip (FedEX again....frickin driver refuses to deliver to me...oh well, someday his exhaust will smell of urine...I guarantee it), well...the bladder proved to slide more than expected. This time the sliding made it hard to fit my package inside the bag.
So, I came up with idea two....this one could work, or toast the bag....the bag is looking pretty sad as is, the lining is cracking and such, so even if I destroy it, oh well....I plan on buying a "pro" messenger model soon anyways, for the giant reflective strip.
Idea two involves attatching a massive velcro patch to one of the sides of the bag, internally...put the bladder inside of a cloth pouch, button snap top, with one whole side in velcro. The theory is the adhesive for the velcro has less stress per square inch if the contact is massive...same for the velcro, so it should hold well. The pouch is so I don't have to mod my bladder. This shold give a strong hold, and good functionality.
In theory, I will never have to remove the pouch, but the velcro gives me the option to if I ever need it....if I want extra betty homemaker points, I could try to insulate the pouch using some foam I have laying around the apartment. My inner packrat gives me many options here
So, I came up with idea two....this one could work, or toast the bag....the bag is looking pretty sad as is, the lining is cracking and such, so even if I destroy it, oh well....I plan on buying a "pro" messenger model soon anyways, for the giant reflective strip.
Idea two involves attatching a massive velcro patch to one of the sides of the bag, internally...put the bladder inside of a cloth pouch, button snap top, with one whole side in velcro. The theory is the adhesive for the velcro has less stress per square inch if the contact is massive...same for the velcro, so it should hold well. The pouch is so I don't have to mod my bladder. This shold give a strong hold, and good functionality.
In theory, I will never have to remove the pouch, but the velcro gives me the option to if I ever need it....if I want extra betty homemaker points, I could try to insulate the pouch using some foam I have laying around the apartment. My inner packrat gives me many options here
