Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Commuting
Reload this Page >

Do you yell at peds in bike lane - NYC?

Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

Do you yell at peds in bike lane - NYC?

Old 05-17-06, 01:33 PM
  #1  
macaroni steve
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 70
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Do you yell at peds in bike lane - NYC?

I'm usually not a real jerk on my NYC commutes. But today.... man....

The Brooklyn Bridge was swarmed with tourists. Some people were plain jumping right into the bike lane without even looking. There were also a number of folks just walking lazily right in the middle of the bike lane.

On my first pass, I just got really annoyed and told myself I wouldn't yell at anyone. But on my way back home... man I just couldn't refrain. Right when I reached the top of the bridge some tourist backed up right in front of my bike - not even looking - camera up to their face. "Excuse me! Get out of the Bike lane!" Then I cursed a little bit to for that NY effect

So was I justified in yelling at these people? I mean, the bridge has signs every 100 feet clearly indicating which lane is which. I just think it's best for EVERYONES safety, if they were aware of the designated lane.
macaroni steve is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 01:41 PM
  #2  
DataJunkie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,277
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You are required to curse being in NYC and all.

..and I was annoyed with the occasional jogger or skate boarder in my bike lane. eek!
DataJunkie is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 01:48 PM
  #3  
eplbrooklyn
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have found that sometimes it is best in general - if I cen get around cleanly - not to yell anything as it is impossible to guess how a startled ped will react.
Having said that, many times on the Brooklyn Bridge (especially on the weekend) I have chosen to "announce" myself loudly enough that - even if English is not their preferred language - at least I get their attention.
Usually when tourists see a bike coming they move...usually, but not always.

Last week I was commuting home towards Prospect Park and two peds were crossing in the cross-walk (I had the green light), made eye contact with me and slowed down so that I would need to avoid them.
I did, but chose to pass by very close and yell as I passed them. Probably not necessary to respond in any way, but it felt good.
eplbrooklyn is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 01:58 PM
  #4  
lyledriver
Electrical Hazard
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Manhattan / Vancouver
Posts: 974

Bikes: a bunch.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If they're walking in the bike path away from me, I generally buzz them pretty close and yell "BIKELANE!" as I do so. Often it startles them, and they move over (after I've already passed).

If they're walking towards me, I continue to charge towards them making eye contact.
When I get a bit closer, I start pointing to the side they should be on.
Most people get the hint, and move over before I'm within 20'.
Though, recently I had someone mock me and point over to the pedestrian path while making a stupid face.
I resisted the urge to strike as I buzzed him.
lyledriver is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 02:00 PM
  #5  
jyossarian
SERENITY NOW!!!
 
jyossarian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: In the 212
Posts: 8,738

Bikes: Haro Vector, IRO Rob Roy, Bianchi Veloce

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I just take the Manhattan bridge. Separate bike and pedestrian lanes and much less crowded. If you have to take the Brooklyn Bridge, I noticed tourists actually expect YOU to give way so I just fix them w/ a "I'm going to run you over and enjoy it" stare and they eventually chicken out and move. And to answer your question, yes, I yell, although rarely, and usually only at the really, really, really stupid ones.
__________________
HHCMF - Take pride in your ability to amaze lesser mortals! - MikeR



We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!
jyossarian is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 02:11 PM
  #6  
CigTech
Senior Member
 
CigTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,556

Bikes: Schwinn Empire XL

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
We don't have bike lanes around here in Tampa.
CigTech is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 02:19 PM
  #7  
BearsPaw
Chief Chef
 
BearsPaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Philly (Manayunk)
Posts: 226

Bikes: 2005 Fuji Touring & 1980s Motobecane Mirage FG conversion

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've never ridden a bike in NYC, but I ride across the Ben Franklin bridge into New Jersey from Philadelphia pretty often. I have trouble in the mid-morning timeframe with mom + a litter of children walking abreast, taking up the whole path. I think they expect me to levitate over them, because they never move, which leads to me having to break, unclip, and stop my bike to avoid hurting anyone. It's not a bike-only pathway, but I wish people could keep to the right and avoid taking up the whole path.
BearsPaw is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 02:23 PM
  #8  
timmhaan
more ape than man
 
timmhaan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: nyc
Posts: 8,094
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
the brooklyn bridge is such a major tourist attraction that i just don't even bother with it. i'd rather run laps on the observation deck of the empire state building then try to navigate a bike through the hordes of people. it'll get worse as the weather gets better...
timmhaan is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 02:50 PM
  #9  
TexasGuy
That darn Yankee
 
TexasGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: West West Fort Worth
Posts: 4,286

Bikes: Mongoose XR-100, Eros Bianchi

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DataJunkie
You are required to curse being in NYC and all. !
+1
__________________
Life is about hanging onto what you think is important and finding out what really is important.
"Stop Ruining my joke!", "No, a joke implies humor attached at no additional cost"
So many sayings, so little sig space.
TexasGuy is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 02:53 PM
  #10  
TexasGuy
That darn Yankee
 
TexasGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: West West Fort Worth
Posts: 4,286

Bikes: Mongoose XR-100, Eros Bianchi

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CigTech
We don't have bike lanes around here in Tampa.
Hahah. i was going to say. Most of the times there's not enough bike lanes to be annoyed by people who are taking up the non existant bike lane. I found this one road that has bike lanes that are usually occupied by illegally parked cars. I don't go down there and only found it just because I was trying to find some place.
__________________
Life is about hanging onto what you think is important and finding out what really is important.
"Stop Ruining my joke!", "No, a joke implies humor attached at no additional cost"
So many sayings, so little sig space.
TexasGuy is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 02:55 PM
  #11  
Skyway6
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Vancouver BC CANADA
Posts: 47
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
all we need to take care of these unattentive peds are some "benhur chariot race" blades attached to the hubs ..nothing like 2 feet of spinning high carbon steel blades to move them out of the way one way or the other
Skyway6 is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 03:00 PM
  #12  
Bklyn
Ex-Lion Tamer
 
Bklyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.
Posts: 1,152

Bikes: 1982 Lotus Legend (steel-frame touring bike); 1982 Fuji S10S (converted to a singlespeed: 46x16); Specialized Crossroads hybrid (the child taxi).

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
There's a question about yelling? Are you saying that there are people who don't yell?
"Yo yo yo yo BIKE LANE" usually does the trick, but when passing by, I always give a supersmooth "Hey, thanks a lot." Maybe they'll think I was yelling at the idiot behind them. Don't want to leave them with a bad feeling about cyclists, you know.
But I agree with everybody who avoids the Bklyn Bridge; it's like the fall of Saigon these days, families dragging oxcarts, carrying their belongings in enormous burlap sacks, pushing abandoned howitzers....
Bklyn is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 03:15 PM
  #13  
ItsJustMe
Seņior Member
 
ItsJustMe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 13,750

Bikes: Windsor Fens, Giant Seek 0 (2014, Alfine 8 + discs)

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 442 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I certainly would yell at them. For all intents and purposes they're standing in the road. They're lucky if they only get yelled at and not run down.
__________________
Work: the 8 hours that separates bike rides.
ItsJustMe is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 03:17 PM
  #14  
timmhaan
more ape than man
 
timmhaan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: nyc
Posts: 8,094
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
it can get pretty dicey. here is a visual. many times it's much more crowded than this:

timmhaan is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 03:34 PM
  #15  
oboeguy
34x25 FTW!
 
oboeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,013

Bikes: Kona Jake, Scott CR1, Dahon SpeedPro

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
No kidding, that pic is of a pretty light day in fair weather. Im surprised to see the peds behaving in such an orderly fashion -- must be a big tour group with them all going the same direction. It's when it's crowded and peds are walking in both directions that things get dicey, IME.

Me? After nearly getting knocked down by a jogger once I've given up on going anything other than slowly across the BB. I've accepted that if the weather is good, it's going to take forever. I save my ire for Chambers Street, for which I harbor a special distaste. It's an awful to cross the island to the Hudson Greenway along Chambers. A propos, anybody have a better route? Also, I tend to save the poorer part of my vocabulary for peds in the bike lane in Central Park, especially from what, the 7th (or is it 6th?) Ave entrance up to 72nd where cars are allowed all day. They drives me nuts!
oboeguy is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 03:34 PM
  #16  
JohnBrooking
Commuter
 
JohnBrooking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 2,568

Bikes: 2006 Giant Cypress EX (7-speed internal hub)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I don't have bike lanes here, either, but I do sometimes yell at cars who are lined up in the shoulder on their way to a certain intersection.

(The road only widens to 2 lanes about 20 feet before the turn, so the cars tend to form two lines well before that, to let left-turning cars pass them to get into the left lane, which means the majority of the cars going straight or right move all the way over to the right, well into MY SHOULDER [as I tend to think of it]! I yell as I carefully pass them on the right, in what remains of the shoulder. [There are few driveways, so I'm not too worried about a right hook.])
JohnBrooking is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 03:43 PM
  #17  
Bklyn
Ex-Lion Tamer
 
Bklyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.
Posts: 1,152

Bikes: 1982 Lotus Legend (steel-frame touring bike); 1982 Fuji S10S (converted to a singlespeed: 46x16); Specialized Crossroads hybrid (the child taxi).

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
OboeGuy, where are you coming from? I'd been using the Brooklyn across Chambers and up the Hudson all winter. (Started commuting in October. I know, I'm a contrarian.) I was about ready to give it up until I discovered [heavenly choir sings...] First Avenue. Take the Manhattan Bridge. Go up Allen or Eldridge to Allen. Pick up First at Houston. If you can time the lights, you can ride at a really decent clip on FIVE empty lanes, all the traffic a half-block ahead of you, from Houston to 23rd without stopping. You'll be grateful for the rest at 23rd.
I'm not going back to the Hudson River Greenway till the first frost. Too many oblivions.
Bklyn is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 03:48 PM
  #18  
chajmahal
bum bike
 
chajmahal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 228

Bikes: '85 Woodrup Giro-Touring, 87 Centurion LeMans RS (2), 78 Centurion LeMans, 77 Centurion Super LeMans, 2001 Jamis Quest, 1970 Raleigh Grand Prix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Anybody get those joggers who jog in the bike lane even when the sidewalk is empty? Like in the suburbs? That's pretty annoying. The ones with their ipods cranked up scare the best. They jump 10 feet when you buzz them from behind.
chajmahal is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 03:51 PM
  #19  
oboeguy
34x25 FTW!
 
oboeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,013

Bikes: Kona Jake, Scott CR1, Dahon SpeedPro

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Bklyn
OboeGuy, where are you coming from? I'd been using the Brooklyn across Chambers and up the Hudson all winter. (Started commuting in October. I know, I'm a contrarian.) I was about ready to give it up until I discovered [heavenly choir sings...] First Avenue. Take the Manhattan Bridge. Go up Allen or Eldridge to Allen. Pick up First at Houston. If you can time the lights, you can ride at a really decent clip on FIVE empty lanes, all the traffic a half-block ahead of you, from Houston to 23rd without stopping. You'll be grateful for the rest at 23rd.
I'm not going back to the Hudson River Greenway till the first frost. Too many oblivions.
Heh, fortunately I'm not strictly commuting these days. When I ride to visit family in Brooklyn, though, the Greenway from the GWB area (I live blocks from there) is really my best route.
oboeguy is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 04:21 PM
  #20  
genec
genec
 
genec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: West Coast
Posts: 26,348

Bikes: custom built, sannino, beachbike, giant trance x2

Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Liked 113 Times in 74 Posts
Originally Posted by chajmahal
Anybody get those joggers who jog in the bike lane even when the sidewalk is empty? Like in the suburbs? That's pretty annoying. The ones with their ipods cranked up scare the best. They jump 10 feet when you buzz them from behind.
Just what I was thinking... hey fool... use the sidewalk.

Ran into another situation yesterday... Segway rider going the wrong way in the bike lane... sheesh. I gotta get a Zounds.
genec is online now  
Old 05-17-06, 05:59 PM
  #21  
BC Dub
thunder in your heart.
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: vancouver
Posts: 123

Bikes: 5 bikes of various stature.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by lyledriver
If they're walking in the bike path away from me, I generally buzz them pretty close and yell "BIKELANE!" as I do so. Often it startles them, and they move over (after I've already passed).
Funny, we seem to have the same tactic

Originally Posted by chajmahal
Anybody get those joggers who jog in the bike lane even when the sidewalk is empty? Like in the suburbs? That's pretty annoying. The ones with their ipods cranked up scare the best. They jump 10 feet when you buzz them from behind.
I had one of those the other day. Empty sidewalk, in the bike lane on a 60km/h street (where the average vehicle speed is 75-80km/h). "BIKELANE!"
BC Dub is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 06:11 PM
  #22  
crtreedude 
Third World Layabout
 
crtreedude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Costa Rica
Posts: 3,109

Bikes: Cannondale F900 and Tandem

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 341 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I concur - anyone doesn't yell? Of course you do. However, I time it so that I am just past - or nearly. Too hard to guess which direction they are going to jump!

While in the states I did think seriously about an airhorn. Can you just imagine? (where is an evil smiling when I need one?)
crtreedude is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 08:42 PM
  #23  
mihlbach
Senior Member
 
mihlbach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 6,519
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 58 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I don't know what it is about the Brooklyn bridge, but tourists just don't behave. My parents visited me from IL last year and we walked out into the bridge...and I kept reminding my mom to stay out of the bike lane or she would get yelled at...I told her like 50 times and, oblivious, she just kept drifting over into it, gawking, until sure enough, one of you gave her the big "this is a bike lane" scolding. I don't think they understand the difference between NYC and Disney World..its just one big tourist attraction, and they don't stop to think that people live here.
mihlbach is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 09:34 PM
  #24  
jyossarian
SERENITY NOW!!!
 
jyossarian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: In the 212
Posts: 8,738

Bikes: Haro Vector, IRO Rob Roy, Bianchi Veloce

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I actually got yelled at by a jogger while I was in the bike lane in CP. He was going the wrong way, and yelled at me to move. I recovered fast enough from the shock to move out of the bike lane, then pick up my fist and fake a punch at his head that made him flinch. Then I yelled, "A$$hole" and kept riding. For those of you who think the bike lane is the joggers lane, the jogging/walking path is the gravel path on the other side of the fence, away from traffic. It's actually softer than the roadway and easier on the knees, but hardly anyone runs on it.
__________________
HHCMF - Take pride in your ability to amaze lesser mortals! - MikeR



We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!
jyossarian is offline  
Old 05-17-06, 10:54 PM
  #25  
oboeguy
34x25 FTW!
 
oboeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,013

Bikes: Kona Jake, Scott CR1, Dahon SpeedPro

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jyossarian
I actually got yelled at by a jogger while I was in the bike lane in CP. He was going the wrong way, and yelled at me to move. I recovered fast enough from the shock to move out of the bike lane, then pick up my fist and fake a punch at his head that made him flinch. Then I yelled, "A$$hole" and kept riding. For those of you who think the bike lane is the joggers lane, the jogging/walking path is the gravel path on the other side of the fence, away from traffic. It's actually softer than the roadway and easier on the knees, but hardly anyone runs on it.
You sir, are my hero. The only way it would have been better would be if the dude flinched so hard he hurt himself. What a moron! (him, not you!) I don't understand how anybody thinks it's a jogging lane.
oboeguy is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright Š 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.