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Old 06-14-06, 08:44 AM
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On my commute home yesterday, some jackass yelled at me through the window of a pickup truck. Couldn't really hear what he called me but it was probably your typical frat boy and he probably called me "fa&&ot" or whatever (just for riding around on a bike and following the traffic rules... imagine that).
About 1/4 mile down the road, though, when he was stuck in traffic and I was blazing by his open window, I yelled back in at him and scared the crap out of him! hehehe.
Had to resist the temptation to hawk a loogie in there at him...
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Old 06-14-06, 08:48 AM
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You might as well have painted a target on your back for the next time he sees you.
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Old 06-14-06, 09:00 AM
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You need to practice selective deafness. Much easier.
I've been quite a bit calmer than before I discovered this amazing method. I need to write a book
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Old 06-14-06, 09:14 AM
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I doubt he'll take his revenge on you; probably some other biker.
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Old 06-14-06, 09:29 AM
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"Selective deafness" probably would have been the way to go but I'll admit I wanted to get the last word... And I'm sure that whatever crap he throws at me or other bikers in the future, I wouldn't have been able to change that on my evening commute...
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Old 06-14-06, 10:40 AM
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I've had high school punks lean out an open window and scream at me as they sped past. And when I starred at them as I rolled up alongside at the next red light those same punks were rolling the windows up without me having to say a word. I hoped they were humiliated, assuming those where their girlfriends sitting beside them. They obviously didn't think for a second they would be seeing me again before shouting out the window and regretted doing it.

Then again, I've had a car full of guys scream ***got and throw a beer can at me late at night on a dark and desolate stretch of country road. In that case I checked my urge to yell back and was glad they just kept going. While it's instinctive to bark back, we need to really think about the possible ramifications before escalating any of these situations. As humbling as it may be, like Clint said, "A man needs to know his limitations."

Of course if you're a total bad azz, put the punks in their place. Unfortunately though, you never know who is driving around with a pistolé in the glovebox these days.

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Old 06-14-06, 11:17 AM
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Just saw Brokeback Mountain on DVD recently. Reminds me of the scene where Ennis gets mad at some guy in a pickup in the parking lot (I forget why) and reaches in and starts punching him out through the open window. Whereafter the driver manages to get out and totally turn the tables on him. So beware.
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Old 06-14-06, 01:00 PM
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>>> yelled back in at him and scared the crap out of him! hehehe.

'Cept someone like me is likely to be the next cyclest he encounters. In the world of the knuckle draggers like your driver, there's scant difference between bikers like you, me, my son, effete north-eastern liberals, high school grads, and anyone conversant with standard English verb structures. The next time any of us are blasted by a pick-up's bow wave, we gotta' wonder if we are the fond recipient of payback for this.
 
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I have no problem with repaying the courteousy... I never have and never will, I'm too passive and am listening to my book anyway when they're driving by, so I don't pay attention to what they're saying; but one who yells first is fair game for a response, IMO..
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Sometimes you just gotta give as well as you get. You don't have to be on a bike to be a target of abuse.
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Old 06-14-06, 01:36 PM
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I've had this happen on a couple of occassions, where I caught up with the people later. Once I knocked on the window (cold evening), and asked "Did you say something?". They wouldn't even roll down the window.

Another time I passed the car and waved and said "How are you doing?". I just rode past, without even noticing their expression.
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Here's where an iPod comes in handy...

Can't hear the idiots. I use my mirror to see 'em, I don't need to hear 'em.

I know this is a can of worms... but it sure is nice to ride in peacefull, stress free enviroment.
 
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Coyote, I see your point but I think this type of "knuckle-dragger" probably would be shouting at your or your son or whoever, regardless of whether he ever got yelled back at by myself or anyone else. I would be surprised if he went out for "revenge" for what he got back, especially since he started it, and it was just some stupid potty mouthing anyway.
I guess I was also kinda hoping that he would mull it over, while he was stuck in a good 1/2 mile of traffic, and I was already home: He just got dusted and called a c**ks**ker by a guy on a bike, maybe we're not such wusses afterall...
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It is a tad humorous to yell a ****phobic type insult back at someone who just used the f#g word on you.
Excepting the fact that I find neither amusing but it still amuses a small non PC part of my brain
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Old 06-14-06, 03:03 PM
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One thing I realized after I hollered at someone one day who was over the center stripe is that,
I was on my usual route to work. And so was he. So we were destined to pass each other again.
And we did.
That's something to keep in mind.
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Old 06-14-06, 08:09 PM
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There's another side to this. The mouth breather in the truck was likely a simple bully picking on what he perceived as a defenseless target. (This is the case in many random cyclist and ped harassments)

I learned in grade school that most bullies back down when you stand up for yourself. These days, I generally start off polite but firm if given the opportunity to respond to idiot behaviour. I give them the opportunity to do the right thing, or at least back down. Generally, saying something like "did you yell something at me back there, I couldn't really here you." As noted, most of these chicken****s will roll up the windows and refuse to look at you. A very few will respond with some sort of deluded rationalization or excuses.

If they're one of the few that is looking for trouble, I'm fully prepared to deal with it. But being scared of this kind of behaviour generally only makes sure that it continues.

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Old 06-14-06, 10:13 PM
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Yeah, I totally recognize the irony in using one ****phobic insult to counteract another... I was thinking on my feet though, and that was the best that I could come up with by the time I caught up with him. Next time, I will definitely use the "polite" tap on the window approach, and ask him "were you saying something to me?" I almost did that today, but the person who yelled out at me was too far down the road to catch up to (dang... and she was kinda cute too. It was not a hostile yell, as far as I could tell)

Az B, I agree with you 100%. As a scrawny guy, I have been a target for bullies and the like all of my life, and I would rather stand up for myself (even if it means getting my ass kicked once in awhile) than just shy away and give them the satisfaction of keeping a little guy down. And I also note that once I adopted this attitude sometime around junior high, the ass kickings stopped on their own accord.
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Originally Posted by DataJunkie
It is a tad humorous to yell a ****phobic type insult back at someone who just used the f#g word on you.
Excepting the fact that I find neither amusing but it still amuses a small non PC part of my brain
I like to call people "heterophobes." It tends to make them think.

I would have either yelled back or given an enthusiastic thumbs up accompanied with a cheesy grin. Either one is instinctive depending on my mood.
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I had a car full of young punks (males) today speed by me (this is on the hwy), and I think they might have thrown something, I'm not sure. The dudes in the back turned totally around to look, making me think something was thrown, plus I thought I saw something out of the corner of my eye. I didn't even flinch though. But I did take note of where they turned and the car they drove. This is a small town...

Some guys are brutal to women on bikes though. It's not the first time that's happened to me. Once, at around 16 or so, I was riding my bike through my old neighborhood and once again, car full of young guys went by screaming and I felt something hit my butt. They tried to smack my ass! When I figured that out, I was HOPPIN' mad! I picked up the biggest rock I could find (it was huge), and followed where I last saw the car. I never saw it, but I was fully intending to smash that rock into their windshield. Yes, a bit violent, and I've calmed down *a bit* since. But really, it's friggin' ridiculous behaviour and I'd like to let them know that they're not going to get away with it. I have no problem with letting them know how I feel about their stupid behaviour. Maybe next time, they'll think twice before screwing with a chick on a bike!
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Old 06-15-06, 09:37 AM
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mtn chick, jeez christ that is awful. did you get their license plate #? Too bad big rocks are inconvenient to carry around on a bike all the time.
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I tend to classify those that yell at bikers in the same class a people who drive by a field of cattle and yell "Mooo..."

Never once did I see a cow stand up and yell "Redneck!...."
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Originally Posted by maximusvt
Too bad big rocks are inconvenient to carry around on a bike all the time.
D-cell batteries.

I ride a Vespa and we get pushed around too. People assume the can't go the speed limit, so you get run off the road even when you're speeding. I know a few guys that carry batteries in thier pockets...
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I really don't like the attitude that as cyclists we should do nothing when we're verbally assaulted for "fear of retaliation". I guess we're supposed to just take the verbal abuse and turn the other cheek. I'm tired of low-life punks yelling at me. I don't retaliate physically nor do I yell back at them because I figure that they won't hear me anyway. But if I come-up on them at a stop light with their window down, you bet your ass I'm going to have a few words with them (I've done it on many occasions).

I usually start by saying "excuse me, did you say something to me back there?". It's usually an adolescent male and they just get a sheepish look on their face and look forward, evidently hoping that I'll go away. I then add something along the lines of "yeah, that's how I figured you'd respond when I'm actually here to defend myself". If they try to get in my face or start being a smart-ass, I'll respond in kind. Almost without fail the people who do this sort of thing are complete morons and it's very simple to put them in their place and/or make them look and feel like the complete ass that they are.

Sure you can call the cops and I assure you they'll do absolutely nothing. People in general, not just cyclists, need to learn to stand-up for themselves in a responsible manner. Otherwise the punks will rule. that's my opinion.

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I find I have selective hearing, myself. I wish I was a bit quicker on the draw with the insults, sometimes. Last weekend I was riding to the trail to try out an '02 Fisher MTB I just picked up (I commute on a fixed or three-speed) and heard, "...with your fat ass." This suggestion from a skinny little guy driving a K-car station wagon. I was going to ask him to repeat what I could do, but he sped off when I turned around and glared at him.
The last real confrontation I had was as a pedestrian. I used to live really close to my school, but across a decent-sized road. I must have been crossing too slow for Mr. foot-diameter-tailpipe-Honda cause he honked at me and I flipped him the bird without even looking at him. He proceded to rev his car, cut me off and start yelling at me. I repeated the one-finger salute and continued across the intersection. He yells more and goes flying down the street. He's got such a loud muffler I can hear him circling the block and racing up the alley at me. He comes screaming to a halt to cut me off again and hops out and starts yelling at me again. I'm getting a bit bored so I roll my shoulders and take one step towards him and he hops back in his car! He pulls back out on the road and continues shouting at me for another block before he floors the turd-mobile and goes screaming off into the night.
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Carry one of these 26" expandable asp on your pack and you can break stuff as you ride by.

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