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Old 10-23-06, 08:33 PM
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Can never have too many lights.... (pics)

I believe one can never have too many lights and in that belief I ordered some majorly cheap Chinese noname LED lights from fifthunit.com (as well as some mounts too)

I ordered 4 of each of http://contents.fifthunit.com/html/p...th/sku.46.html and http://contents.fifthunit.com/html/p...h/sku.792.html (they have all sorts of other crappy Chinese goodies too)
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Mounted 2 to my fork and heres are the results:




2 cheapy lights on. Not 100% accurate to life but close enough.

(The light these put out is blue but not THAT blue, I just happen to be shining the light on a blue painted surface, bad choice of surfaces I know)

The 2 cheapy lights + my Cateye EL500





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The LED lights look alright but feel cheap and light. The construction of the body and pushbutton seems sound and no real complaints with operation. Only complaint is the color temperature of the LEDs, the light ouput casts a blue tint. Light ouput is however very strong and actually beats my Cateye. The beam is much more focused than the Cateye though which can be a big disadvantage (depending on how you use these). Haven't had them long enough to test battery life yet but they're said to reach ~4 hours

But hey, $2.50 a freaking light!!
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Old 10-23-06, 08:43 PM
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Anybody think that such cheap lights can be given away to "no lights" cyclists to dramatically improve their safety?
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Old 10-23-06, 08:50 PM
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You can stealthily bolt 'em on with motion sensors and I think they'd still ride without 'em. What amazed me was when I was out last Friday at dusk. I saw with lights that wouldn't turn them on. Just because there is sufficient light to see, doesn't mean you're being seen.
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Originally Posted by Ngchen
Anybody think that such cheap lights can be given away to "no lights" cyclists to dramatically improve their safety?
Sure. Go ahead and do it.
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Old 10-24-06, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dwoloz
I believe one can never have too many lights.
I believe you are correct.
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Old 10-24-06, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
I believe you are correct.
Holy carp!!

To rephrase the question in the OP: Is there a point at which you have so many lights it is illegal? You could imagine someone mounting a Hollywood-style spotlight on the front of a car and shining it down the roadway. That's got to be illegal, right?
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Originally Posted by dwoloz
I believe one can never have too many lights and in that belief I ordered some majorly cheap Chinese noname LED lights from fifthunit.com (as well as some mounts too)

The LED lights look alright but feel cheap and light. The construction of the body and pushbutton seems sound and no real complaints with operation. Only complaint is the color temperature of the LEDs, the light ouput casts a blue tint. Light ouput is however very strong and actually beats my Cateye. The beam is much more focused than the Cateye though which can be a big disadvantage (depending on how you use these). Haven't had them long enough to test battery life yet but they're said to reach ~4 hours

But hey, $2.50 a freaking light!!
How has your experience been with fifthunit.com? Favorable?
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Old 10-24-06, 12:07 PM
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How has your experience been with fifthunit.com? Favorable?
I am wondering the same thing... do you just give your credit card numer to some unknown Chinese company and hope that they don't copy it and send it to all their brothers and sisters?

Yeah, not a very PC comment on my part, but internet security has never been that great, and the Chinese are not too big on things like copywrite and privacy...

I sure would hate to be added to yet another spam list...
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Originally Posted by newbojeff
Holy carp!!

To rephrase the question in the OP: Is there a point at which you have so many lights it is illegal? You could imagine someone mounting a Hollywood-style spotlight on the front of a car and shining it down the roadway. That's got to be illegal, right?
Dunno. The R.I. motor vehicle laws are on line. I think mass is too. The laws can different everywhere.

I have had 200w driving lights on my car and been stopped by the police without any problems ?
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Originally Posted by reich17
How has your experience been with fifthunit.com? Favorable?
Surprisingly, not bad
I paid through Paypal on Oct 4
Got a status update on Oct 10
Got a shipment notification on Oct 13 (although the postmark on the package says Oct 17)
Received the package Oct 22

So it takes a pretty long time but it does eventually come
If there was any payment wrongdoing it would be disputed with Paypal but I don't expect that.

I even recommended by email that they carry a blinking red LED light for us bikers and I got a personalized response saying they'll consider it
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
I believe you are correct.
OMG I am in LOVE!! I want that serup. I believe one can't have enough lights. I just might get crazy enough to gun tape one of those 1 million candlepower lights to the bike and beam down the street at my personal top speed. SEXAH!!


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172 watts and a 100 watt rider?
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Originally Posted by dwoloz
... Only complaint is the color temperature of the LEDs, the light ouput casts a blue tint. ...
The 'white' LED lights are really blue LEDs with a fluorescent coating, giving them the appearance of being fairly white-like light.
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This is interesting....for 9.97 (including s+H) I just orderd 2 of these guys and attachement gizmos. Worst case: I'm out $9.97....but the will work for my son and his buddys bikes....don't really ride in the dark, but.....you can't have enough lights.

I'll post when they show up
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Originally Posted by CastIron
You can stealthily bolt 'em on with motion sensors and I think they'd still ride without 'em. What amazed me was when I was out last Friday at dusk. I saw with lights that wouldn't turn them on. Just because there is sufficient light to see, doesn't mean you're being seen.
It's no different from cagers. I drive with lights on all day in my car. Some people don't turn them on until the sun has been down for 30 minutes.
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From a summary of the Massachusetts Vehicle Code, found these related quotes:

"The vehicle must have two approved, correctly
aimed white headlights in the front..." (Looks like headlights are Federally approved)

"A passenger vehicle may be equipped with a
spot light, but the spot light may be used only to
read signs or to serve as an emergency light
when the vehicle’s headlights are not working. At
a distance of 30 feet from your vehicle, a spot
light may not shine more than 2 feet above the
roadway."

"If you are driving with your high-beam
headlights, you must lower your headlights
to low beam when you are within 500 feet of
an oncoming vehicle or within 200 feet of a
vehicle traveling ahead of you."
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It's no different from cagers. I drive with lights on all day in my car. Some people don't turn them on until the sun has been down for 30 minutes.
Its actually more dangerous to drive with lights on in your car during daytime (with clear conditions) as it effects how well other cars can judge your size/speed, makes it harder for other drivers to notice cyclists, pedestrians and motorcyclists, as well as risking dazzling other drivers.
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Its actually more dangerous to drive with lights on in your car during daytime (with clear conditions) as it effects how well other cars can judge your size/speed, makes it harder for other drivers to notice cyclists, pedestrians and motorcyclists, as well as risking dazzling other drivers.
Off Topic....but this is completely incorrect. Even in bright, non hazy conditions the ability to BE SEEN by other drivers is a critical factor in safety. There have been numerous studies around the world as to the saftery factor of driving with lights on in daylight. Which is why it is the law in many countries and why many new cars have lights on automatically.

I am not sure i have ever been dazzeld by someone lights in the day (even highbeam) but I sure have noticed the difference between two cars side by side, similar colors, one with lights, one without.

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ps: my folks pounded this into my head 35 years ago in Montana..... after friends passed a car and had a head on with a car they did not see.
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i find that the more and brighter the red lights i have in the back, the more the local rednecks are likely to yell at me, and carry on in general. My wife had a good point though... that is because they can see me!
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hey, i wonder if that flashlight holder would securely mount a surefire G2 flashlight... any of you guys that have the mounts have this flash light? (it would be nice to be able to flash high beams on cagers when they piss me off.
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
I believe you are correct.

Not only is he 2manybikes, he is also 2manylights
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Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
OMG I am in LOVE!! I want that serup. I believe one can't have enough lights. I just might get crazy enough to gun tape one of those 1 million candlepower lights to the bike and beam down the street at my personal top speed. SEXAH!!


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These lights will lower your personal top speed to 6mph.

Originally Posted by Falkon
172 watts and a 100 watt rider?
Pedaling a 22lb bike that has 35 lbs of lights on it.


OK everyone that has not seen the "Death Star" tailight raise your hand. The puny weak Nova Bull will be banished to the old parts bin forever! hahahah !!


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Not only is he 2manybikes, he is also 2manylights
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
I believe you are correct.
2Mb, how do you keep people from scalping the lights off your bikes??
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2Mb, how do you keep people from scalping the lights off your bikes??
I don't ride that way, I just wanted to see what it was like. I only rode a few miles.
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Fifth Unit has a designated bike light:
http://contents.fifthunit.com/html/p...h/sku.454.html

Though at five LEDs/bikelight I'd expect your setup to be more effective.
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