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My work can be easily done by telecommute, but my current company does not allow it. Past companies did. But the tools I used then did not respond well over the 'net. (too much latency)
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Until last month I alternated between bike commuting and a very good 12 mile car commute. I may soon alternate a longer 18 mile ride with a very bad 12 mile car commute. Nov - Jan in this location or during bad weather the 18 mile ride will be as fast as the 12 mile drive. I'll probably stage the commute so I do 1 round trip and 4 one-ways during the week.
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Bus & own car were my other options. I'm allowed to ride the bus free, but the route involved a transfer & took more than twice as long as a bike commute while my car took half the time of cycling. Not sure if all State employees ride the bus free, or if its just a local perk for law enforcement types. Don
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my first choice is the bus because it's an express bus and runs pretty regularly. my second choice would be a car but parking is dreadful in downtown Boston and very expensive. To park near the college I teach at it costs $160/month and is a 1/4 mile walk from my office. The college has a gorgeous brand new "bike room" available with my own marked bicycle parking space for $5/year and it sits right under the building I teach in and where my office is.
I remember reading somewhere that bike commuting impacts public transportation to a greater degree than auto commuting since most cyclists would prefer public transit to driving. |
I ride every day. I could use public transit, but it would involve 3 busses and a train. And getting home would be a challenge. Not to mention I like the ride. Bizarrely, I like it even more on a dark, rainy night. But I'm crazy that way.
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i'm 9-11 miles from work depending on the route, so i can't walk; there is no mass transportation; and carpooling isn't realistic since the only coworker who lives near me is one who works 3 or so more hours each day than i do. i work with kids so i can't really telecommute :) until i learn to pilot a helicopter or can afford a chartered pedicab or whatever, i'm driving or i'm riding a bike. having bigger distances between fewer services with no public transportation is one of the lamer realities of living in a semi-rural area.
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My current commute is about 3.5 (5.5 km) mi directly, but I actually cycle a 5 (7.5km) mile route. I put light rail down as my alternative option - which I have used 3 times one way so far this year. The cost of transit is included in my tuition, so there is no incremental cost - but the train takes me about 20-30 minutes and the direct bike ride is about 20 minutes, and the ride I usually take takes me about 30 minutes, so there is no time savings. The main reasons I would take the train are inclement weather and illness (I suppose intoxicaion is a third)
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Something that may be pertinent to this thread:
My Father-in-Law drives or takes the bus to the train station. Then catches the train to work. He doesn't bike, but here is the interesting part: The company he works for subsidizes employee's mass transit expenses. Because they do, driving to work is grounds for dismissal. |
Originally Posted by caloso
3 days a week I could ride in with my wife.
In order Bike, Bus, rollerblade, walk, a ride. |
Originally Posted by CommuterRun
My Father-in-Law drives or takes the bus to the train station. Then catches the train to work.
He doesn't bike, but here is the interesting part: The company he works for subsidizes employee's mass transit expenses. Because they do, driving to work is grounds for dismissal. |
Yep. I wish more American companies would get on this, but our mass transit system just doesn't compare. Maybe in some of the large cities it could work.
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If we're talking public transportation, you should mention streetcars and trolleys too. :p
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Bike - 40 ~ 45 minutes
Car - 25 minutes (no traffic, $15 parking!) and up 1hr (to go less than eight miles!) Metro - 45 minutes average Viriginia Rail Express - 45 minutes+ Bus - who knows--a long time! |
I could probably take the bus, but I'd bet it would involve a significant amount of walking at both ends of the line and take well over an hour for what is a 20 - 25 minute commute by car, and an hour bike ride. I should try it one of these days just to see if it's even feasible.
My bike-commute is about 15 mi., which is probably on the edge of practicality for all but the most enthusiastic cyclist/commuter (which hasn't been me, as of late. Been driving a lot :(.). Even at my most consistent I was only managing 3-4 days per week. The bus option would be such a huge hassle as to make it nearly unmanageable. Welcome to SoCal land of the car-worshipers. Edit: I was curious, so I looked at the local transit website. In order to take the bus, I would have to be downtown, about a mile from my house, at around 6:00 a.m., to get me to within a 1 - 1.5 mi. of work, including a transfer on the way. If I ride, I need to be rolling by 7:00 to get there with enough time to clean up and be at my desk by 8:00. Clearly, the people who are riding the bus do it 'cause they have no other choice, not because it's easy and convenient. |
I ride two miles to a bus stop, 10 miles on the bus, then ride 1 mile to work all before sunrise. I then ride 12 1/2 miles back getting home just at sunset. The bus ride also avoids the most dangerous section of the route. All commutes are a matter of optimizing bike/bus/car with just how physically demanding the job is. No point in biking to and from if my 61 year old body is too tired to do the work at the winery. As it is the cycling I do get in allows me to compete with men and women half my age or less.
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I have two jobs. My local retail job is about a mile or so away. I can walk it quite easily. Even if the weather was severely inclement, it's short enough that it wouldn't be too bad. My other job, a practicum for school, is in downtown Boston at night, and is not feasible to bike to -- I could do the distance, but there are a number of obstacles between me and my destination. So I take the T, and it sometimes makes me *wish* I could bike. It's an hour-long busride, followed by a 20 minute subway ride, and those are "good" times. The other option is to walk, bike, or bus to the commuter rail, take the train in, and then take the 20 minute subway ride.
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I put bus, car or walk. I had walked in quite a bit before, but I have more fun riding my bike. That bus takes much longer than either of those options. Taking my car and parking in the free lot takes longer than riding my bike and parking at the building.
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Hmmm. I didn't kow you could vote for two items in a poll.
OK, in terms of miles, carpool is my first option. And I ride my bike to and from the park-n-ride. If I have to go to a class in Orange County, I take the train along with my folding bike. But trains don't leave early enough to get me to work. Drive my car is always an option. Ride my bike is an option, but I'm getting to old for 80 mile days! |
I've been car-free since 1999, but a cyclist only since this past March. Before I bought the bike, I had six years of adapting work, shopping, and social activities to transport availability. For instance, there are five bus routes that pass one end of my block, and one at each of the next four streets in the other direction.
(Interestingly, when I first got the bike, I navigated and rode based on bus routes. It took me a while to figure out that I could take any route I wanted.) For my self-employment, I put telecommute in addition to bus and foot. Other than meetings, I can do everything from home. I have one client who was nice enough to set up a cubie for me to work from, just because I needed to get out of the house once or twice a week. They're 20 minutes by bike, 45 minutes by bus, 1:15 to walk. My part time job is 10 minutes by bike, 30 minutes by bus, 40 minutes to walk. Grocery store is 10 minutes by bike, 30 minutes by bus or on foot. LBS is three minutes by bike, ten minutes on foot. :) |
here were my other options for my old commute to school (still don't have a new commute because I'm still "between jobs"):
1. drive. saved 5-10 minutes but parking was $8/day for the guest lot. 2. walk. this took an hour. 3. shuttle bus. sometimes this actually took longer than walking assuming the bus even showed up. so, bicycling was clearly the best option most of the time. |
My commute is 13 miles so walking is fairly impractical. No bus service (rural michigan) could carpool (did for almost a year when my next door neighbor was on the identical schedule to me. ) however no one I work with is really close at the moment. So Car was the only answer I provided.
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Anyway, the only reasonable way for me, apart from biking, is public transit. Actually, I could walk but the trip would take 1.5 hours one way. Now, that's not even so long and I will do it occasionally (or sometimes combine walking and streetcar/subway), but doing it every day would get very old very fast.
I am big on human-powered vehicles, so I thought of other options. I'd love to be able to rollerblade places but I live on a big hill and I'm not a good enough rollerblader to be able descend that hill and remain alive. :eek: :D I could possibly get a kick-scooter, but I've no idea whether that would work: never had a scooter. I think for shorter trips it would be way more fun than walking but once we start getting into the five-mile range, it might get a little boring... Plus, I think people have a favourite "push" leg on those things, so it is an ultimately assymetric mode of travel which may contribute to my mild scoliosis (a condition in which a spine is laterally curved). |
Originally Posted by tsl
(Interestingly, when I first got the bike, I navigated and rode based on bus routes. It took me a while to figure out that I could take any route I wanted.)
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I checked the "drive own car" and "subway/light rail" box. My partner commutes to our university by trolley and subway and I could do the same. We could take buses but it's slower than the trolley/subway, would probably require more walking, and costs the same. In reality, i don't think I could get away with driving her car on a regular basis because the reason she doesn't drive it is that the repair costs, lack of time savings, parking challenges, and environmental costs make it impractical. The stupid thing has needed a new alternator, brakes, belt pulley, and gas tank. four repairs for about $1600 total over the last couple years.
I could afford the time to walk to school occasionally, but I couldn't fit 11+ miles of walking into my schedule every weekday. I can't run much because it makes my knees hurt- and bicycles are cheaper than knee surgery. All in all the top choices are: 1. bike commute: about 30 minutes each way, with estimated bike costs at $0.30 to $0.50 per round trip 2. public transit: about 45 minutes each way, fare of $2.60 per round trip |
Originally Posted by TrevorInSoCal
My bike-commute is about 15 mi., which is probably on the edge of practicality for all but the most enthusiastic cyclist/commuter
Clearly, the people who are riding the bus do it 'cause they have no other choice, not because it's easy and convenient. |
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