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Andy Dreisch 06-01-03 08:15 PM

Today I was on my roadie, zooming along to meet my family at a friends house in San Jose. Along the way I saw a biker without a helmet crossing a very crowded intersection, leaving the signal island to cross the traffic lanes at exactly the moment the light had turned green.

Of all the moronic moves I've witnessed by idiot bikers, this one takes the cake. I bet if this fool were clipped there'd be people on this board blaming motorists who had the audacity to never conceive of a moron pulling this kind of act.

princebaal, keep up the mature, professional approach. We cyclists, as a class, really need your example to show motorists how we operate.

Dchiefransom 06-01-03 08:19 PM

Aahhhhh, Mr Andy Dreisch must be riding his bike near my mail route. I see lots of stupid things every day, and have been in serious danger from other cyclists the times I've commuted.

Andy Dreisch 06-01-03 08:31 PM

Well, Dchiefransom, let's just say motorists are predictably stupid, and many cyclists are horribly, unpredictably unsafe. Not that I'm any boy scout with my riding, but most people on this board piss and moan endlessly about bad ol' cars and motorists and rarely ever take an introspective view of our hobby.

Chris L 06-01-03 09:09 PM


Originally posted by Andy Dreisch
Well, Dchiefransom, let's just say motorists are predictably stupid, and many cyclists are horribly, unpredictably unsafe. Not that I'm any boy scout with my riding, but most people on this board piss and moan endlessly about bad ol' cars and motorists and rarely ever take an introspective view of our hobby.
This is because if I hit/get hit by an incompetent cyclist, I'm highly unlikely to be killed or even break a bone. The same can't be said for incompetent drivers. A tonne of steel does make a difference. As far as I'm concerned, there is a direct correlation between the amount of damage one is likely to do and the amount of responsibility one should be expected to take.

Yes, I know in some extreme 0.001% of cases from ridiculously obscure angles, bicycles can also be fatal. However, let's be realists and look at what is likely to happen in the majority of instances, shall we?

princebaal 06-01-03 09:13 PM

Ok, I like to drive. I am a what some might call an agressive driver. But I am always very safe and very alert as to what is going on around me. I have never been in an accident and have never had any problems with pedestrians or cyclists. I also like to ride my bike. I am very good at that too. I follow the rules and do as I am supposed to. It's not just rage against drivers when I am on my bike, I don't like other drivers when I am in my car either. So I guess my driving would be the same "mature, professional approach" that I take while biking. Hey, my point is......If everybody drove and rode like me, there wouldn't be any problems!!! Hehehehe. Thank you and good night.

Andy Dreisch 06-01-03 09:42 PM


Originally posted by Chris L
This is because if I hit/get hit by an incompetent cyclist, I'm highly unlikely to be killed or even break a bone. The same can't be said for incompetent drivers...
Never said a cyclist actually hitting me is the problem.

I am saying that cyclists bring upon themselves a lot of the blame. That idiot I saw today, if he were hit, God forbid, would have been the cause of his own demise.


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